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President/Kissinger
11:20 am
6/11/70
P: Did you get your calls made?
K: I called Jackson and he is very non-committal. He is against the Cooper/
Church but he has come out against American ground forces in Cambodia.
P: This restricts air power.
K: He said he would like to get the Laotian amendment but I said that wasn't
possible. I think he will vote against us but he said he would think about it.
Margaret Chase Smith was in committee and I XOX thought it was best not
to call her out and then have her go back in and say the WH was trying to
influence her.
P: Leave word and when she calls tell her the President respects here judgment
on these matters but we want her to know what we feel.
K: I can call Jackson again.
P: No, don't do that. The Democrats are raising at these guys and scaring
them to the left. I think it's good that I didn't call. It will be a defeat if we
loose and it won't be a victory if we win. We do have that letter down there.
Was that a good thing?
K: Probably not but with the pressures that Scott put on you -- it's not a great
mistake -- 51-49 sort of thing. The letter says you are against it but you
would approve it.
P: On my brief encounter with Dobrynin I think that these fellows need a deal.
K: I think they need it.
P: On anything.
K: They wikix were scared to death that we were trying to set up a Middle
East crisis.
P: I thought it was good that I dropped the hint that the Middle East could blow.
I wasn't threatening. It's the area in which American public opinion will sway.
He said we don't do anything against American public opinion. We showed them
XXXX we did two times.
K: It was very effective. On SALT we were in good shape. We know where
we are going. They will be wound up one way or another.
P: Whatever you agree to I am for. I don't understand the details.