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TELCON Wicker/Kissinger 12:42 pm 12/24/70 W: I wondered if you felt free persuing what we said last night derived from your feeling that in recent weeks there were developments in Paris. Behavexx Behavioral developments. K: I don't want to encourage it. It's a 10% chance. W: I am not clear on the conclusion. K: That maybe they are looking the whole thing over again. Their first reaction to our proposal wasbrutal to make sure we had no j hope. That's normal. Maybe they won't move until they have bopped (?) us one. ? ? ? ? ? NVN plus find us on our own . W: So reports in the paper -- K: Less because substance of it means nothing. The fact that they are making it. W:. To be dixx dictated (?) by you. K: It may be. W: Could I assume that you mean by that that the whole military situation on limitations there are possibilities of negotiated way out. K: Maybe but I am not suggesting we can beat them militarily and don't take their XIXIX political interest into account. W: What, if any, relationship could there be between this feeling you are felling here and what the Administration - - Rogers yesterday -- waying about the bombing. Or is there a relationship? K: I don't want to speculate on that. They will lock themselves into another road. If you had seen me for an interview I dx wouldn't have gone as far as I did yesterday. We are talking xxx about gut feeling and we have been wrong before. W: Now that you have pointed it out xxxx there seems to be an element of logic. K: You won't subscribe it to me. Whether you write it or not is your problem. What I gave you yesterday I did tell the President the same thing. Not based on intelligence. It's a gut feeling on how their mind may work, W: No other explanation for semantic changes. Have a nice Christmas. K: Same to you and a happy New Year. Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. TELCON M. Wallace/Kissinger 1:47 pm 12/24/70 W: Thank you for your Christmas card. I can talk on this phone? K: Sure. W: When we had a discussion sevezal months ago it looked like we might go to North Korea. Brown goes to Moscow tomorrow. He'll get his visa to N. Korea there. Then he will go to No. Korea. He will make the advance arrangements and I will go 10 days from now. He is EXXEX excited and apprehensive. So he says in case you decide to do anything entertaining during that time he wants you to know he is there for 10 around Jan. 1. K: No worries. Unless they execute Americans in the Street but then you would be part of them. W: Any usefulness in my seeing you? K: Yes but I will be on the W. Coast. I leave Sat. until the 3rd. I would love to see you. On the 3rd or on the W. Coast. W: I will try to do one or the other. K: And when you get back. W: Bill ? ? ? - - why they are letting us go at this moment. K: No. May just want to soften their posture a bit. W: I will be in touch in a week or 10 days. Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. TELCON Amb. Dobrynin/Kissinger 4:15 pm 12/24/70 K: I kalkexx take it the Ivanov thing is on the track. D: The man I spoke about does not know the details because about that last assurances given from your side it doesn't matter what kind of decision taken by the court. K: What do you mean? D: You were obligated to take a but a final stage. K: He doesn't know that but I will made it a matter of record. The State Dept. has just to work out the arrangements with you. It will be a record in the WH and athe Justice Department. No point in making it -- D: I just understood it was the case -- K: Only to prevent a leak. I have two other things -- when we were talking the other day of minor things that cause irritation, one that hasn't happened yet but as ca mpaigning begins, many aspirants will go to various capitals. Things that help certain candidtates will take exception when other candidates weren't given them. D: One already applied. I wrote to Moscow but haven't received a response. For the first of January. Don't know whtat the answer is. We were told rather asked if it was possible. K: We cannot say that someone shouldn't visit Moscow but when the Presidwnt was a candidate the circle of pepx people he could see was definitive. If it changed for these, it would cause . D: No one will ask any candidate to do anything. K: But taken out of context it could be used that way. D: How can we keep it quiet? K: It's entirely a sovereign decision. It's just that in my judgment some things that cause problems within the intrinsic ? ?????. I didn't know there was one planned. D: It's been almost two weeks. K: Being received by top level people and being there are two different things. D: No, when I talk about going foxx it's for a meeting with top level people. Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. Dobrynin/Kissinger 4:15 pm 12/24/70 -2- D: (cont) I can give visas for any Senator to go but when hex I say it was an application, it was to visit people. K: So you meant with top level if they see top level it's up to you. D: I have no answer maybe today or tomorrow. I don't know. K: The point that was made to me when the President was there he was refused to see senior people and he remembers it WX of course. If they are received, if conversations XXX could be kept so that they cannot be used it would help political discussions we are planning. This is personal advice and no an official request. I thought you may want to see the comments I made on our relations at the backgrounder today, which you will find constructive. D: Have you already typed it? K: I will have a copy sent over. I have not seen it yet. As soon as it's done. Finally and most importantly (something about the M. E. ) but because you felt there was some urgency. D: I will invite you. K: The President would be prepared to have me discuss with you some of the general proposals and formulations and in the meantime we should avoid matters to aggravate the military situation there. Some ideas you have discussed the other day he is considering in a positive spirit and I will say more to you on the 7th. D: Off the record, if something could be more completely now it is important based on Soviet/American relations and would be good to discuss concrete -- K: I am doing something on this. Berlin(I have worked out). D: Strategic. K: I will give it to you on the 7th. We have made a preliminary decision. D: I will wait to have the usual dinner with you. K: I want you to know on general background. In my backgrounder I said settlement in the M. E. not possible because it was not in the interest of the Soviets. (But that was just as a diversion.) D: Send it in a personal envelope to me. K: Merry Christmas and wee you on the 7th. D: I hope you will see your children. K: They are coming to the W. Coast with me. Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. Telecon Tony Lake 12/24/70 4:30 p.m. K: I called for two reasons. One, Al told me about your conver- sation yesterday and as far as I am concerned you are the best judge of what you should do and I will do anything I can on my side to keep the relationship constructive. This is not a partisan issue - I know you are interested in what is best for this country and we both think we should do our best to keep divisions to a minimum. I have high personal regard for Muskie and for you. And the only other thing I have to say is to wish you well, and Merry Christmas. L: Thank you very much. I came by to tell you because of a strong loyalty I feel to you personally. K: I had always hoped to bring you back into the government and I still hope you will perform the national service of which you are capable. I certainly think of our association with much pleasure. L: Thank you very much for calling. Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. Telecon The President 12/24/70 4:50 p.m. K: I wanted to tell you I had a long talk on the phone with Dobrynin and hung out the prospects for SALT and Berlin and the Middle East. I said that if Presidential candidates started receiving treatment not ac- corded others in Moscow we would look very unsympathetically on it. He said the Senator had already asked and I said he had better not come back with statements he can use in a partisan way because it will jeo- pardize everything. P: You think he's going to go? K: He thinks not, but I think so. Then I called that snake Lake to complete the circle. P: But the way you left it he said that he had asked and he didn't know whether it had been approved? K: Right. I said we don't mind his going to Moscow, but just the people he's going to see. P: That's okay. Then he'll owe us one. K: That's right. And I've held out enough goodies. They will probably see him, but they may not tell him much. P: One guy who's been good to us is Stewart Alsop. If you could just give him a call and chat with him some time K: I saw him at dinner the other day. P: Oh you did? How's his temperature? K: He's fine. P: He woote a good one the other day. Okay Henry, take a couple of hours off. K: Thank you. Merry Christmas. P: Same to you. Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. Telecon Secretary Laird 12/24/70 1:05 p.m. L: Three things: first request to put a few more men in Phnom Penh. How should we do this? Through the regular channel? I have a request to put 10 members of a military equipment delivery term in Phnom Penh and then others that will be in Saigon on a TDY basis. K: I will notify State that the President wants it done and they should do it. How many are there now? L: Three. K: Say the President authorized up to 15 or 20. L: We want 10 now and later on up to 15 or 20. I will just put this through as a regular request with the Joint Chiefs' backup and send it to you. K: All right. L: Next item, anything on the fiscal guidance? K: Yes. He approved the 75. 5, a billion increase plus five hundred. But he wants Shultz to get in touch with you on how it should be comprised. L: I would like to do that as soon as I can. I will haveto work the next few days on this. Is it all right if I call Schultz? K: Sure, that is between you and him. He thought you wanted com- plete authroity to do it all yourself. L: No, I took 70 percent of their recommendations on that billion. K: Then I don't think you have any problem with him. L: The only thing I changed were his base closings and the B-1. K: On the B-1 I am with you and the base closings is a political issue. Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. Telecon Secretary Laird 12/24/70 1:05 p.m. page 2 L: Another manpower reduction Shultz' man sat down with Bob M and worked it out. I better call George. I don't know whether his people are communicating with him. I will get this other x thing going. Another thing: McCain came in with a hell of a message. He says he has got to have more men. I w wanted you to know I understand Al called last night regarding intelligence. K: On the civilian side. L: I have worked it out with Moorer, Bennet, the Chiefs and the service secretaries. The hearings are starting on February 1. All of the tactical material will be as it was before. K: The news stories read as if the whole DIA is being pulled out from under the chiéfs. L: DIA will still perform their functions, but the Chiefs want to set it up in a separæte intelligence organization. Some of these news- paper guys make it out like it was something to do with the Pueble and that's not true. K: The only thing is we didn't want the Fitzhugh report implemented without getting a crack at it. L: Tom and I are in agreement but some of these guys want to read him into the memo. But let it run that way. K: We have no problem with that. L: What we have to do Bob Haldeman wanted a cut-off date. to do something to get that, but I was concerned the way the papers were playing it. K: One thing the President wants. If the ships aren't out of Cuba next week he wants another Black Sea cruise with a heavier ship and a Baltic cruise. L: I have one set on the third. K: Okay, but put a cruiser on that. L: Okay, We have been playing this thing down, dead-panning it. K: That's the way to do it but if they're still there b the end of next week he wants that done. L: Okay. Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. (to) TELECON - HAK and DEAN ACHESON 12/26/70 1040 am By ETD K: Just wanted to let you know I am going away and plan to work on the President's Annual Report. I'm taking my staff with me. A: I wanted to come in to see you but since you are going to be away. I plan to go away on the 4th (January). When will you return? K: I plan to be back here on the morning of the 4th. A: That's when I leave. I can come in today or talk on the phone what would you like? K: I'll be happy to see you. But if you want to talk on the phone I'll leave it up to you. A: Well, I wanted to talk with you about the memorandum I left you on South West. Did it make any impression? K: Indeed, yes. You called to my attention the disgraceful situation which I had to learn from you. that the Government had taken a position. We are trying to sort it out now. A: Would it hurt or help you for me to give attention to this? K: It could hurt us. A: You know. people might read something in it. say you put me up to it. K: I know what you mean. People will say we' re in ca-hoots (laughter). Even if I never laid eyes on you. If anyone ever gave me credit for putting you up to something Exixhe on international law analyses, I would be flattered. I am concerned that something like this could happen without the White House being consulted. A public statement by you would be very helpful. A: All right, I'll be busy on it. K: I'll be in touch with you through the usual channel. If you find something is happening we should know about we'll be most grateful if you will get in touch with us unsolicited. A agreed to do so. K thanked him for his moral and other support. Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. TELCON Secretary Laird Mr. Kissinger 11:50am, 12-26-70 L: Henry, what I wanted - I think our meeting went along very well. K: Mel, my strong impression is that the President does not want SOUTHCOM phased out. L: What we have and what Dave is working on is we are working on a way to upgrade our military assistance there. We want to insert more personnel into the area. K: We want to make sure Latin Americans know there is one place they can go to. L: That is why they would like to have one placed in Washington. We are going to bring in a new man to head up the military assistance program and at that time we will go forward and make the announcement, But we don't want that in the budget. K: That is not a Presidential directive. In fact, his directive is the opposite. L: Dave has spent a lot of time on it but let's not do anything until February. K: Well, he may not want to do anything on it. L: The Senate and House Committees have both recommended it. And we have to upgrade it somehow. I am not concerned about that. George understood that. They received all the reports on this area and really SOUTHCOM does sit there in Panama and does not do much good. I think we have that taken care of. That is one of the reductions we are not going to list in the document itself. As far as the B-1 and the frigate -- We stopped the purchase of the F-111 last year. They want to knock out some electronic equipment on planes coming off the line. I told them Dave would sit down and talk to them about it. K: I am very leary of OMB specifying specific equipment. Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. -2- L: The reason I didn't argue with them was I wanted to maintain good friendly relations. On this meeting Thursday I was trying to make them feel good about their situation so I did not make those points the way you are making them now because it would just have antagonized them. We have arranged appointments and we will keep the money in and if they want to change priorities we can talk about it. I just felt it was better not to get into any arguments. As far as the $74. 5M is concerned, I think that figure has been agreed on and I think it is also agreed it does not include military retirement which is $300M but they do want me to eat the military assistance add-on. We may agree to take $150M but not $300M. K: I want a billion increase on this and that is what George and I agreed to. We are marginal in too many places in our national defense. L: But they are still after me on military assistance. K: Just refuse and I will back you and I am sure the President will. L: Alright. One other item. I wanted to check with you. I noticed on Culebra - I worked out that language. We have a committee over here working on this. K: Who put it out. L: Well, it is a report that Train is taking over Culebra thing. The only situation on that is we are going forward on this study and we will make some modifications but I had this Governor in Puerto Rico quieted down and I don't think we should get them upset again. The story is in the Post today. It comes out of San Juan. I just wondered what this deal was. They ought to let me know about this or they should get someone over here they can trust. K: I did not know about it. Let me check into it. L: The language they put into the House Report was language we sent over to them. We had this pretty well on track unless Louis got in touch with someone in the White House. Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. -3- K: It was not run through my office. If they had talked to me, I would have talked to you. L: Henry, the next item is the scientific groups. The President's Scientific Advisor has been talking about herbicides. K: Well, you sent over a paper and the President agreed with it. And I was going to check with you about a release we were going to go with today on this. L: What you have over there is a copy of my memorandum to the President and you want to knock out in the statement -- K: No, no, we are working out a press release. L: How about checking it with Jerry Friedheim? K: Our people did it as a summary of your memorandum and we will run it by Jerry Friedheim. L: The other item is I sent you a little memorandum on infiltration. I sent it over Wednesday. K: Oh yes, I saw it. L: Basically I think we should be careful. Our infiltration will not be as high in 1970 as they were in 1969. The last two months they are higher than they were in 1969. K: Has anyone said anything else? L: There were some reports from CIA and DIA that combined Cambodia and Laos and for 1969 they left them out. K: My impression is for the last two months they have been higher than -- L: I have laid it all out in the memorandum. K: That was a very thoughtful memorandum. L: Anything else? Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. -4- - K: No. I am going away for a few days. L: Good. I will hold out on not eating that military assistance. K: No. I am going to call Shultz and raise hell. L: That probably will not do any good. He has a morale problem with his staff. He is a sincere guy and I would like to help him if I can. K: Alright Mel. Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. TELCON The President Mr. Kissinger 12 Noon, 12-26-70 K: Hello Mr. President. I have two matters. One is I have the POW letter which is pretty full statement. I will keep it for you until you get back on Monday unless you feel you want to release it today. P: Have you found anyone to send it to? K: No, I thought we would send it to all the wives. P: Well, we can't publish it until then. K: There is an American Convention Society meeting tomorrow and they are going to come up with a report blasting the herbicide report in Vietnam. At the same time, we had made a study to phase out our herbicide operations in Vietnam by May of next year and we were ready to announce early next week but we could let it go today and it would not look as though we were listening to the howls of that society. P: Yes. I think you could do that. I think on the POW thing we could get Colson or somebody working on it who is working with that organization. If we are going to generate it, we have to have something done today. Could this be put out as a statement? Is it in a form that we could do it? I would like this to be out by today. The people don't give a damn about what we are doing about herbicides. K: It would be an easy matter to change the letter into a statement. It just needs a different introduction and ending. P: Alright, if you would not mind, just make it a statement. What does it say? K: It sums up what you have done since you came into office. We had Ray Price go over it yesterday. P: Good. This would be great to get in Sunday's papers. There is an organization of POW wives (the main one) that we could send it to Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. -2- them as a statement. I have not thought of a way to get it out. The statement should not go out unless we are responding to something. What are we responding to? The main thing is tell them to get off their butts in the mail room and find that letter. We received scores of letters after Sonntay. Then find that letter and make this in response to that letter. I will get hold of Haldeman and get him to do it. Meantime, get the herbicide thing out. I think the POW thing is good news to put out and I will tell them to find the letter. K: Good. The letter is all done and in good shape. We are getting a lot of heat from Jewish groups about these people who were sentenced and we have urged Ron to say nothing. P: Yes. That is right. I am for capital punishment for hijackers. I am glad to see the Jewish people raising cain with the Russians. The idea of putting out a big public statement is like blowing into the wind. K: And also whatever the trial, these are after all their own citizens. P: That is right. They are not American citizens. They were not part of that Turkish group were they? K: No. I wouldn't be surprised if they were framed but who are we to say that. I think we would irritate the Soviets if we said that now. P: I think everyone should be tough on hijackers. K: The report says it was a KGB trap of people who wanted to flee. P: Tell your Jewish people we are looking into it. K: We have shifted it to the State Department. P: Give it to the same guy who handled the Lithuanian matter. I will get hold of Haldeman on the POW matter. K: Thank you Mr. President. Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. TELCON Mr. Shultz Mr. Kissinger 12:05 pm, 12-26-70 K: I just talked to Laird and want to close the circuit because he is so crooked. He claims that you have asked him to close down SOUTHCOM. S: I am not sure. K: At any rate, the President does not want it closed down and we don't want Laird to claim budget support. We have to have a place for those people down there to go. S: On our list we had the closing of several commands. K: I don't care about the others but SOUTHCOM we do not want closed this year. Laird is eager to close it. He says he will delay against your pressures. I had not understood that list included this. He does not want to take the B-1 with which I agree. And also on the F-111, we are talking about avionics, not the plane and I have doubts OMB should get into that much detail. I don't know whether for piddling sums it is worth going against military judgment. S: Let us bear that in mind. The frigate is left to be discussed, K: The only other thing. My understanding is we were going to have a billion net increase and he tells me we will have a re- duction in military assistance program and it will not be a billion increase. I understood you were willing to give him more than a billion if he justified it by reductions. That is my under- standing. It isn't that once he settles on a billion we will start whacking away at that. S: There is a lot of looseness about this and I thought when we went over to discuss this that Laird would be there but it was Moorer and Moot. At various points Moot suggested that these were things that the staff could work out. For example, they had Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. -2- three items of repairs. Our people felt these were all in the base. There was some discussion back and forth and Moot said we could work this out with the staff. K: I do want to give them a little more air with their budget. S: This was the whole idea and I thought the meeting worked out well. We certainly would not have gotten anywhere without your support and Wayne Smith's help. An interesting side -- I know you are concerned about the Joint Chiefs interest -- Moorer was extremely happy when it ended. K: Well, you won't get anywhere on the frigate part because Laird put it in the budget when he was in Congress himself. I will be gone next week George. S: If there are any problems, I will call you. We are not fighting the budget number with them. If my man wants to talk to someone who should he talk to, Smith? K: Yes. S: I would like to see them get some stuff together and shortly after you get back get to gether. K: The President should be clear about where we are going before we strike. The intelligence community knows too much. S: Okay. Have a good holiday. Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. TELCON Governor Rockefeller Mr. Kissinger 12:35 pm, 12-26-70 R: Hello Henry. K: I am sitting in my office looking at that sculpture. It is very nice. R: Aren't you nice. I hope you like it. K: What I called you about was this. We thought on this intelligence study that first of all there is almost no way it can be done by asking the agencies to study themselves and secondly, duplica- tion of mechanisms would be too cumbersome for FIAB to start from scratch on. We have formed a group of Shultz's people and my people and we want to use FIAB as a parent organization and within FIAB the President is hoping you will help us push it. This is something in which Navy blood is going to be spilled. It does not require anything of you right now. We are setting up a little group here to go through the process, to do the staff work. We will feed that to FIAB and hope they will endorse it and when we have our preliminary work done I would like to brief you on it either here or send someone up there. We thought between you and Baker - R: Yes. Baker is a helluva good guy. What about Land? He is extremely bright. K: Yes he is bright. Franklin Murphy is a disaster. He won't stop talking. R: But we get along in our own group. K: Yes. The Admiral is good but on this issue it is going to be bad. R: What really is missing is a professional organization that would be of a permanent character that would be under you. K: Strangely enough, some of the people in the OMB have come up with the same idea. Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. -2- R: For instance, just to use that Chilean thing - national interests should be analyzed but just straight "what is in our own national interest¹ and there is no place except within your own shop. We get all this stuff and what I go to immediately is how do we take this information, what do we do with it? K: Yes, but I get over-loaded. R: Yes, you have to go to the hottest ones. K: Or I may not understand it. On that Chilean thing - for once I trusted the bureaucracy's opinion. R: I do feel Henry - I think it is worth considering tying this in. K: The President is prepared to send it up as Presidential reorganization. R: Of course with the money shortage I think they have to do something about this. K: Yes. R: I will be very happy to work on it. K: I am going to the West Coast to work on the President's Annual Report and will be back the week after New Years. R: While I am on the phone, the situation of the other governors. I don't know what the President is planning on doing. K: I don't think he is planning on $10M. R: I have everyone supporting it now and it is only 5% of his budget. And everyone is going along with it. K: You should definitely talk to George Shultz. R: Tell George I will call him on Monday. I have been on the phone trying to decide what to do if the New York City firemen, garbage collectors, etc go on strike. I may have to conscript these people. Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. -3- I will have to declare an emergency and conscript them. He does not realize. He thinks by making the gesture he will be alright but he is wrong. Happy is leaving. She says the tension is too great. You and I are used to dealing with tensions. The chaos will be something and I think he should forget 172. EVexyone Even if Congress does not get it to him, he should ask for it. Can Ehrlichman or Shultz have more influence? K: Either one really. R: Well, there is none in the Congress. When I am inaugurated I have to lay it on the line as to what Congress must do. They are utterly leaderless. I will leave out the President. Congress is not reflective of our needs. I think that these guys are living in sort of a business as usual and I think we have come to an end of that as far as domestic scene is concerned. K: The international scene also. R: I have had to reorganize my staff, and work out my message. K: One amazing thing to me. Here you have been in public life 13 years and yet, again, you are the most fascinating man in politics. You are the man with the most vision. The people that now get to the top are poor technicians of power. As long as I have known you, you know what perspective to pursue. These people the Kennedy's, Muskie's etc -- they do not have this. Or the Lindsays. When I see you, I must tell you about a conversation I had with Kennedy the other day. It is this complete lack of moral character, a deep lack of integrity. People like Dulles, Eisenhower or Truman -- these were all people who still had purposes. R: I think this is a very important point. But maybe the shakeup which we will have -- the story in the paper that says the students at college are forced to work, etc. K: I think the people like the Kennedy's will be replaced in a few years. I think it is very important that somebody like you calls the issues as they are. Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. - -4- R: This is what I am trying to do in this statement. The interesting thing is I have had to write it myself. You can't get writers that can do it. It really goes right to the bottom of it. K: I will look forward to hearing it. R: And I will help all I can on the project. Goodbye Henry. Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. TELCON Flanigan/Kissinger 9:22 am 12/28/70 K: I have come to the conclusion that I want to talk about that we should stop the textile negotiations. They xxxxx will let you see the tape of my conversation with my fellow. klex I talked with Gehlin who talked with Sato and Miazawa. He says Miazawa said -- to the chief of the editorial (staff) of the Post -- that we are trying to get them to sign another document on the deck of the Missouri. I don't see what we will get out of it anymore. I know it's a problem for you. F: What I think can come out of it, if they find it preferable to legislature and Sato can live with it. K: He will never admit that he cannot happily live with it. F: We can put it to him on the basis of what do you prefer? It's possible that we can have an agreement that is an acceptable agreement to them and that actions under that agreement would be unilateral U.S. actions and not things they agreed to do. K: So they are agreeing to unilateral action. It's a fact of life. F: No it's not. We don't have that power short of a trade bill SO we would have the right to act without xx trade legislation. K: So we will get a shallacking everytime we act. F: No because we have plenty of unused against them. It would be against them only worse. If you are not sure they will take retaliatiry action under the agreement then why ??7???. It will weaken Sato's position. K: Either he is so cracked that no agreement is worth anything or he is NOK is an objective bind and it's too dangerous. F: For his political future? I don't see why that kind of agreement where they -- K: I don't see how hecan give his word twice in one year and not show any sign of living up to it. We didn't start it. F: That's right. I would agree with you that we shouldn't hold his feet to the fire for an agreement that is politically unacceptable to him. K: Have you the conversation? F: No. K: Tell Haig to give it to you. It's on a tape at my house. Maybe they haven't had a chance to transcribe it yet. They are waiting for us to come up with Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. Flanigan/Kissinger 9:22 am 12/28/70 -2- K: (cont) a modification of the last proposal. They want to know if they should have=Ushiba make a proposal to you -- I understand you are having lunch with him sometime this week - F: Wednesday. K: what they made formally to us. F: The answer should be no. K: Tell Haig to call him. No sens in making a proposal we cannot accept. F: I will get the tape and tell Haig no. K: Let's wait until next week. F: It's off until then anyway. K: It's a weird fascination dealing with the oriental mind. It's like a Kafka play -- - (about a man who tries to get in a door and he is barred. He suddenly realizes he has waited all his life to get in that one door and now his life is over and he has succeeded at nothing). Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. John Osborne/Mr. Kissinger December 28, 1970 11:00 a.m. (not verbatim) jlj O: I had given you some warning that I was going to call about that question that we were discussing some time ago. Do you have anything on it? K: I will probably stay. The questions is not altogether closed. Don't say anything final but you can use it on the basis of speculation. I have not done anything about it. O: I will not be using it this week. I would not be writing this week about this subject. K: You would probably write more kindly about me if I said that I was leaving. O: I will not be dealing with this issue this week. I just wanted to check with you on either I should or should not Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. LON Sen. Fulbright/Kissinger 11:50 am 12/28/70 K: I am calling to wish you a very happy new year. And to tell you as exasperating as you are, the country would be the poorer for not having you. F: That's kind of you. I don't try to be exasperating. K: I know you don't and I value our relationship. F: I am sorry we don't view some of these things the same way but that's what makes the world go round. K: I think the differences are in time scale. F: That's right and the urgency of taking some action largely because of other influences not in the same areas. K: I have no direct link to the domestic pressures so I am less sensitive to them than you are. F: Right. K: Anytime you want to resume meetings in your house or any other way, I am at your disposal. F: You are in California now? K: Yes. I am working on the President's Annual Foreign Policy Report. F: That's wise. Sunshine? K: Yes, it's lovely. F: But harder to work. I just returned from . K: Will you wind up by thextbaxxx 3rd? F: I hope so. Everyone including the President would benefit having them off for awhile, contemplating their navals for a bit. Everyone gets in a bad humor. K: A strenuous year with ups and downs. F: I hope he doesn't plan to call them back on Monday. K: I don't know. I have no feeling for ** his thinking this far W away. K F: My guess is that for what it's worth is that t he military appropriations Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. Fulbright/Kissinger 11:40 am 12/28/70 -2- F: (cont) will get through but I don't think we will get a compromise. That's a disaster. ? ? ? ? ? ? social security and leave trade bills. I know Wilbur Mills ? ? ? ? ? (Fulbright's voice kept fading out) K: They have been tough to deal with. F: The military and foreign aid will get through. K: Then in that case it will probably go the way you think it should. F: The other things I don't think they are ready to pass. It would be just further frustration. K: The purpose of this call was to wish you a Happy and successful New Year. F: And I hope we will be successful in our various policies. Good luck and thanks for calling me. K: And I hope to see you in the New Year. Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. Prof. Graubard/Mr. Kissinger (not verbatim) December 28, 1970 11:55 R.m. a. jlj G: Henry, is it nice out there? K: Very Stephen, how are you? G: Fine. I tried to get you many times last week. K: You called last week? I had someone call you to tell you I was unable to see you. I have been very busy G: No it was not about that. I heard that you may stay overnight in Boston and might need a place to stay in Cambridge. I was going to be out of town so I thought you might want to use my place. K: You called me? No one told me you tried to reach me. I know there is something wrong in my outer office. Did you give them your name? G: I called at least twice. Yes, I gave them my name. I told Ann that if you wanted to stay overnight I would give you my apartment. It is very nice. Then I got ill with a bad cold and ended up staying. We are diluged with snow here. K: In Boston? It is very hard to live in New England. G: When are you back? K: If the President is coming out I will be back on the 16th or 17th but otherwise the 3rd or 4th. I am coming back for a weekend of constant parties for John Freeman on the 8th, 9th and 10th. - 7th - He has done an unbelievable job. Do you know him? At a party last week for him they suddenly called on me. I told them that the British Ambassador has always been charming us to the point of being more influential than the cabinet members. I was not going to fall into the trap of Lord Harlech and have us pleading to tell them all our secrets. Now I want to tell you that Amb. Freeman is more influential than most cabinet members and that we are pleading to tell them our secrets. G: Not a distinction of a light order. K: He is most impressive. Most impressive man I have meet in Washington. Not at first. At first his wife charms the pants off you right away. Perhaps that is an indelicate way of putting it. G: It depends on where she does it. Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. K: She is very loyal to him. Steve, we will get together for lunch or dinner when I find out what the schedule is. G: When will you know? K: By Wednesday. G: Henry, your children are charming. David is very artistic. I did not know that. K* Thank you. I think he does have talent. G: This is the first time you have been separated from the man, isn't it? K: From Ann? G: No, from the man. Are you going to take some time off. K: A little. I am working on the Annual Policy Report. G: There is a difference in pace though. K: Much quieter here. G: If ever you want to come up to Cambridge and need a place to spend the night you are welcome to use my apartment. It's at 19 Garden Street opposite from the Commodore Hotel (?). It is the nicest apartment you have seen me in. K: Guido has offered me his apartment in Cambridge too. It was very sweet of you. I was never told. G: I also told Ann to tell you in case she got in touch with you but then the day before Christmas I called and told her not to say anything to you because I was not going away. K: See you soon. G: Either soon or after the 20th. Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. TELCON Yoshida/Col. Kennedy 8:23 a. m. 12/29/70 K: Prof. Jones asked me to call you this morning urgently to say that your expert should not make the proposal about which you spoke to Prof. Jones -- he should not make the it to our expert. We are not ready for it. Y: I have understood. The experts will be having lunch tomorrow but our expert will not make any proposal so we will have a social occasion. K: That's right. Y: That's absolutely understood. I will see to it that there will be no confusion. Col. Kennedy, please tell Prof. Jones that I look forward to hearing from him any message he might have. -- K: I will be sure he has that message. Y: On the substance of the problem. K: I will be sure. Y: Thank you and good-by. Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. Senator Stennis/Mr. Kissinger (not verbatim) December 29, 1970 9:45 a. m. jlj Ellender Amendment, Fulbright S: Hello. I hate to bother you. On this military appropriations bill /amendment We are going to reconvene at 2 p.m. this afternoon. My point of view, just to refresh your memory, on the Cooper-Church matter and the Fulbright matter you know. Are you familiar with the provisions prohibiting the President from We cannot get a vote in the Senate. I was wondering what your reaction would be to strike out all of the language of the Fulbright Amendment out of the appropriations bill. With the added proviso could you live with that? K: But will that not leave the appropriations bill? S: Yes. You would cut out all the language of the amendment but still have the military procurement still standing. K: But this would prevent the use of Vietnamese and Thai troops in Cambodia and Laos. S: It reads provide support and assistance to the government of Cambodia and Laos in the authorization bill. I just wanted to check with you about where would that leave you - could you live under that. K: We do not think so. You can't ask the Vietnamese to sit around while they rebuild the sanctuaries. This will eventually affect our own withdrawals. S: You understand that we have the proviso in there. K: Yes. You have always been a gentleman. S: I just wanted to check with you what your attitude would be on striking the amendment language military procurement authorization bill. K: Does not permit use of Vietnamese troops in Cambodia. S: We are in an awful fix on this bill. We could get it passed in the Senate if we could bring it to a vote. K: Thank you for calling me. DECLASSIFIED E.O. 13526, Section 3.5 DeR HR. 6/26/2012 By MIHIRS NARA, Date 5/16 16 Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Libra 08-28/12332 [P. 1] DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. TELCON Jim Cannon/Kissinger 11:12 am 12/29/70 K: Nancy said you wanted to talk to me which probably means she wants you to talk to me. C: The Governor is going to be in Washington on Sunday and wahts to see the President on revenue sharing. K: I think the President will be at Camp David. Either preparing k for the TV thing or watching football. C: Or both. K: Football anyway. I don't reœ mmned it at this moment. I think the Governor should be careful not to move into opposition posture now. C: We agree but the Governor is determined to move on revenue sharing on what's meaningful. $10 billion sounds like a lot of money but not for the need. I think it's good for him to stay in touch with the President. K: It wouldn't hurt to try but I don't know if it will succeed. Maybe for dinner. C: Hewas going to talk to Mitchell and Haldeman. We want to stress how impor- tant it is. K: He should talk with Shultz and Ehrlichman. Haldeman has nothing to do with it. C: Haldeman in reference to meeting with the Republican Governors. Mitchell said the President would do it. Shaeffer, who is in charge of the meeting, is looking for a job in the Administration and doesn't want to do anything to lessen his chances. (The conversation continued on a personal matter.) Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. Mr. Haldeman/Mr. Kissinger (not verbatim) December 29, 1970 11:45 a.m. jlj H: Hello Henry. How is the weather out there? K: Excellent. Superb. 70 degrees. If you can take it I am sitting on the porch. We are making progress on the foreign policy report. It is beginning to shape up. I hope the President understands that I am working out here. H: He knows you are on vacation. I told him. K: I really am working. I have a couple of things Bob. I ran into Mr. and Mrs. Norman Chandler last night at the ballet. She is [upset] because he has never been invited to the White House. Said she had never been invited for dinner and she gave a dinner for the President on short notice. H: Was she drunk? K: No. I am not talking about Missy, I am talking about Dorothy. She is going all over Los Angeles and I think her husband basically likes us. H: She has been invited but never came. We will send her a note reminding her of all the invitations we have sent that she regretted. K: OK. I am not telling you to do anything about it. I am just repeating what she is saying. Second, is there any chance that the President may come out here next week. H: Yes there is a chance. I think so. K: How long would he stay? H: Come out on Tuesday for a couple of weeks, two months, six weeks. K: [I think it would be good to stay] through the Congressional session. H: I think that is what he has in mind. K: In that case I would stay out H: When were you thinking of coming back? K: Sunday or Monday. Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. H: We should know in the next couple of days. He has been making noises about going out. K: I think he should go somewhere. Nd necessarily out here but somewhere. H: My source of information says that Winston Lord's wife is saying he is thinking about leaving his job but has not talked to anybody at the White House about it yet. K: I heard that. I think I should keep him for a few months more. He told Haig he was thinking of leaving. H: Muskie tour getting sweats. [Tony ? says going to be very embarrassed. [something about not seeing people. He has not got to see Brandt. K: He'll see Brandt. H: Harriman is going to Paris to see Bruce. Then on to Moscow to meet Muskie. K: Assuming they get to Moscow. That will be interesting to see. H: Harriman is using Smyser ixix as his contact on NSC to get material. K: He won't get anything from Smyser. He is hard line but I will check into it. H: Anything else we can do to brighten up your day? K: It was an interesting observation you made the other day. H: What was that? K: That I hired my staff for quality and that is all. I never thought this disloyalty was possible. Anyway, let me know as soon as you get some word on this other thing will you? If you come out I will plan to stay over and send the kids back. See you seon. H: I will let you know. Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. TELCON Packard/Kissinger 12:21 pm 12/29/70 P: I understand you and Mel have been working pretty hard. K: On the budget? P: Yeah. K: Everytime Mel gets xgxx through explaining the budget to me I think he is talking Swahili. P: Everyone stays confused and no one knows what's going on. K: We did X what you suggested and OMB came back with suggestions. I thought everyone was happy. P: We are. I am calling to thank you. The other thing is Dr. David's letter to the President on stand off capability. K: I saw that. P: I wanted to chat. I have no reason why he shouldn't send it to the President. It's consistent with what I think wxbx should be done but I want to be sure what program there's we want to implement. I am in general agreement with what he says although XXX more detail work to be done. If he wants to send it to the President, I don't object. K: How do we move it after the President has seen it. P: I will have a program prepared. It's underway now. We could submit it to the DPRC or anyway it's appropriate butxqbxex question of what can be done. Anything done within a year will be determined by action. We will need (?) the Israelis' help. I think we could do better with stand off capabilities then we can by giving them aircraft. K: I would recommend that you complete your study and we put it into the Sr. Review Group. P: That's fine. K: I will tell the President when I transmit David's letter that's what you are doing P: If he wants to back it up with a memo, fine, or you can tell him and XXXX say it will get done. K: Good. Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. Packard/Kissinger 12:21 pm 12/29/70 -2- P: Again this budget situation I think is fine. K: I have the President' agreement, for your guidance, that you can get a billion increase so don't use MAP increase. P: That's what Mel said. We will hold tight on it and issues of the BOB thing, we should change a number of items. K: I don't agree with them on B-1. P: I don't think I agree on XXXXXXX any issues but I think they need a chance to be heard. Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. TELCON H. Sidey/Kissinger 9:27 am 12/30/70 S: You are all over the place so I can't keep track of you. K: We are writing the annual foreign policy report. I took some of my staff out here. S: You should be pleased - I appear periodically on a show called Agronsky and Co. Liberal critics. Last night we taped one for Sat. night and it was unanimous that the President did well in foreign policy. There's a difference of opinion on domestic matters -- K: No, there's no difference of opinion. It's all negative. S: OK but even with the severest critics on foreign policy everyone thinks he has done well and you are a large part of it. K: Thank you. You are a good friend. S: I called because at Harvard there are rumors. I called not for secrets but to see X if you can enlighten me at all. K: I have to make a move by Feb. 3. I am stewing about it out here. S: There hasn't been a decision then. K: No. Harvard has been very generous and made it easier for me and helped for me to come back. S: Well, rumors crop up. K: And I have been talking to friends up there. S: He heard they said no you couldn't come back and another guy said it would work out all right. K: Even if I leave it will be amicable and with a gentlemen's understanding that I can come back. S: I am just putting this in -- K: I haven't decided but I will nxxtx in two weeks. S: I will say just to hang on awhile and when there's a decision give me a call. K: I will. Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. Ernst Van der Beugel/Mr. Kissinger December 30, 1970 11:55 a.m. (not verbatim) jlj K: I am sorry I did not get to see you during that week when you were here. V: You had something to do, I do not understand what. It's good to talk to you. I wrote you a little note. Have you received it yet? K: When did you send it? V: XXXXXX Recently. A couple of days ago. K: I just wanted you to know that we are good friends and when I say I will call and then I don't you should call me. V: I do not dare. K: Nonsense. I think our relationship is going to survive this job. V: I am coming in February. K: Are you coming to Washington? V: I will try to see you. How is everything with you? K: It is hectic but that is not new. V: But you have some quiet days. K: I am on the west coast right not. How is Mikya (phonetic)? Has she recovered? V: Yes. She has to slow down a bit but very very much better and she is almost back to normal. She sends her love. She is here in the room with me. K: Give her my love. I hope I can see you in February. If you can't get to Washington perhaps we can get together for dinner in New York. V: I am going to Washington but only one day but I will see you. I liked Joe Kraft's article on you. K: You are kidding. Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. V: No. There were a few very good things in it. Are you physically keeping up? K: I'm in great shape. V: Perfect. I will see you in February. You will get my letter soon. K: I look forward to it. V: Thank you for calling me. Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. Mr. Ehrlichman/Mr. Kissinger December 31, 1970 10:10 a. m. (not verbatim) jlj E: [German] K: [German] You should say Z. E: I am not the German student in the family. As a matter of fact Peter is here right now. K: Oh, that's right - when is he going? E: I called to wish you a happy new year. Are you having fun out there? K: I am getting some work done and plenty of sun. E: We are not reading about you. K: I got that under control. E: Not stopping it just have the press under control about it. Henry, would you send me a list of names and addresses that you want to refer Peter to. K: Yes. What is he interested in. E: He's a history major. Civilization, German life K: How long will he be over there? E: For six months. He is coming home sometime in June or July. K: I think it would be better for him to have names of nice people even if they are not famous. They would look after him and he could visit them. E: I think it would be even better for him that way. Dave Young has a friend in Stutgart (phonetic) and has put Peter in touch with them. It was very nice of him to do that. K: I don't have any friends in Stutgart but I have a very good friend in Munich. E: That would be great. K: Can it wait until I get back on Monday. I will write my friends Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. - 2 - that he is there and even if they are not in Stutgart he will probably be travelling around. E: I don't want to be of any inconvenience to you. K: You are not inconveniencing me. I will just draft one basic letter and send it to all the people. It won't be work for me. Just for my secretary. E: And she is past the point of caring. K: Past the point of caring. E: You should have been around for the meeting with the Jewish leaders. Schultz and I were in there doing budget stuff and Bill Rogers pranced in with the Jewish leaders and we got roped into attending the meeting. K: The President called me last night. He thought it went extraordinarily well. I don't know E: It did. It was a very good meeting. There is a little anecdote I would like to tell you about it though. The meeting brought up points of having confidence and trust, etc. At the end they agreed on the line to take about any leak of this and talked about confidence and trust. Then the President got into his bag of goodies and started distributing boxes of cufflinks and things. As they were leaving this one little XXX Jewish guy kept looking into his box and talking sort of to himself. I thought he was praying. Finally, he turned to the President and said, Mr. President I want you to understand that this is not a matter of confidence but there is nothing in my box. Then there was a great shuffling around while they dedk decided whether to take a pair out of another box and put them into the box with the signature or whether to sign another box. It was a high point in the Presidency. You should have been there. K: Oh yes. I would have contributed a lot. He was all charged up about it and wanted to make a statement but I told him I didn't think it was a good idea. E: Joe Alsop was in hanging crepe about how bad things were. K: He took Haig to the Rive Gauche for lunch. That's how bad things are. He doesn't do that for me. E: Me either. He drinks my coffee. Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. - 3 - K: What is the school your son is going to attend? E: Bertlesbah (phonetic). K: What is that? E: It is right outside of Stutgart. Stanford University has a branch over there. When are you coming back. K: I will be back on Monday. E: Happy Rose Bowl. K: I am not sure I am going. We can't chopper into the place that we went into last year - Brennan won't do it. E: That's rediculous. ...... Have you got tickets. We walked last time. It wouldn't be so bad. K: That is not bad. XXXXXXX If you can get that close. Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. Courtney Shelton/Mr. Kissinger December 31, 1970 12:05 p.m. (not verbatim) jlj S: Dr. Kissinger K: I have read that piece you sent to my associate. I willx am out on the West Coast. I do not want to make any comment. I don't think it is appropriate for me to comment. There are two things I would like to suggest be changed. They add a little fuel to the proposition that there is a difference between the Secretary of State and me. On the second page [reading - Growth of NSC staff only naturally makes the role of the Secretary of State impotent. ] I was wondering if you could state this more neutrally and make it rather speculative rather than negatively stated like it is. S: I did not mean to load it. I do not have a copy with me SO if you could just repeat exactly what you want us to change. K: [repeat of above - reading what the story says. ] I am just trying to save his feelings. XXnXX S: I don't see why that can't be done. K: Continuing, [reading - relationship between Rogers and HAK]. I think it is true but I do not think it should be put in this article and I would like to have the whole line struck. I don't think those changes change the line of your story at all or the points it makes. On those I have no comments because I do not think it is appropriate. This is a much fairer description than the other piece. S: That's what I tried to say in the office and in the letter. It was a pretty bad job all the way around. Thank you for calling and we will certainly make those changes. K: Thank you. Good bye. Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. TELCON Haldeman/Kissinger 1:15 pm 12/31/70 H: We are having a white Christmas here one week late. K: That' what I understand. You can only blame yourself. H: Some of us don't have the gail to xxxx leave in the middle of crisis and tribulation. K: What I called about earlier I cleared with Haig. That book won't go in without revision? H: It's gone in but it can be revised. K: I hate to have him focus on it. H: He isn't working on it yet. No X problem. K: Haw was your talk with Hodges? H: Fine. He has agreed to some changes, not some, and asked for more information on other changes. He agrees on Meaker, Meyer and moving Marshall Green to Japan. Question of Shaetzel but if someone better he will put him in there. Agrees on Olson, who's been a real problem, and Hillenbrand. Agrees on Korry. No on Sullivan. On the intexxiati internal people he agrees. Agrees on Trewheart and Rice. He objects to Porter because he is too old. President turned him down before for the Dept. so he doesn't think we want him in the field. K: What about Habib? H: Habib into the Department for planning for awhile and then on to another post. K: He isn't good. Planning is the end of the line in the Dept. We have to do more for him. H: On OAS for Mosbacher, he says Mosbacher doesn't want it. K: I don't believe that. H: Agreed that they'd give Vaky a good post. Agrees that Meyer not the best but cannot think of omeone better. If we have someone, he will consider it. K: That' sxixxxx fair. I question Habib and I think an ambassadorship. We have to get it for him by Jan. 30. Planning is not good for him and he is not good for it. Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. Haldeman/Kissinger 1:15 pm 12/31/70 -2- H: That's what behad in mind. Probably something Alex came up with. K: He has been our man most of the time. How about Australia? H: We could do that. K: A good rest-cure for him and give that post to the Foreign Service for a change. H: He has gone over some of these. We don't have a chance on political ambassadors. Where we have mediocre people he would like us to change. K: Who will he put in for Green? H: I don't know. We have to come up with another candidate unless we want to push on Porter. K: That's the -- I think you did well. H: Good start adx and productive meeting. K: Not unreasonable on his part. If we can get Habib a position, we have done what we can. Where are we putting Sullivan? Whitehouse to Paris. H: Or to EA to replace Sullivan. K: No, Ungar. H: We had Sullivan as a possibility for Australia. 22?2222? K: He has a point there. H: We need someone with background. K: Why don't you suggest Habib. H: Burgus of Cairo - -- you objected to? K: Yes. H: He says he is a strong supporter of our policy. K: It depends. I won't go to the mat on him. H: I couldn't remember whose problem he was. Yours or Shakespeares. Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. Haldeman/Kissinger 1:15 pm 12/31/70 -3- K: He wrote insolent cables after the President's TV appearance last year. H: We will go back on that. K: I am planning to fly back on Monday. H: OK. We babx maybe coming out. K: He says Flordia. H: He hasn't made up his mind. Still going back and forth. Did he say definitely? K: That was last night. I have seen him change his mind after this degree of definiteness. When will he decide? H: I pushed him this afternoon and got nothing out of him. It depends on Mrs. Nixon. K: She talked him into Fla. H: Because she has to be here on the 11th. Not enough time. K: He says he has to be there on Tues. for the Govs. He wouldn't H: He could leave at noon on Tues and come back. to come back with her. He could stay through the 17th. It K: He would get a better rest here than in Fla. He will be bored in Fla. dexisn't a beautiful country and I think he has out-grown it. If you could keep me posted -- H: He says these things. He said Fla. yesterday and then shifted back to Calif. K: I didn't argue with him because he had his mind made up. H: Hewill go someplace on Tues but don't know where. K: I would have to come back that weekend and then come back but there must be courier planes. H: If you talk with him you could nudge him. K: I wish I had known yesterday. H: If she doesn't want to go , they won't. Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. Haldeman/Kissinger 1:15 pm 12/31/70 -4- K: He left the impression with me she didn't want to go. Of course, he says you can't get away from things here. H: She X could go to Drown's house but she might not want to. K: You can't keep them away? H: Nope. K: Think you will know Sunday? H: I think we will have a feel tomorrow. He doesn't know what he will do tomorrow. He can't go to Camp David while it's snowing but he can afterwards. It will stop tomorrow. Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. TELCON B. McDonald/Kissinger afternoon 12/31/70 M: I have a virus. But better today. K: I had one for two weeks. It seems to have more persistence this year. M: How are you? K: On the West Coast and content. M: I called about the chances of visiting Dan Berrigan during Jan. K: You recognize I am not the best person to suggest seeing Berrigan. M: If you feel it's not a good idea I wouldn't want you to do it. K: I want to keep you out of trouble. Not with what you discuss but your seeing him might trigger something. M: I am willing to take the chance but I don't want you to get in trouble. K: I won't. M: I want you to put Jan. 16 aside for that other oboe concert. K: That will be nice. M: I have written you a letter on the book. It's an idea I have but I don't have all the facts. K: Facts only give philosophical DE depth. M: When are you coming home? K: Mid-week. M: Is the Egyptian thing a surprise? K: What Egyptian thing? M: Sadat's proposal. K: I have known about it. It has positive possibilities. The aspect that Eypt is willing to settle separately ?-? ???? M: That's what I thought. Talking already on future rights. Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. B. McDonald/Kissinger afternoon 12/31/70 -2- K: If everything else is settled, then they don't have to hold back on transit through the canal? M: He did that. How was Disneyland? K: It's essentially American. Innoncence and joyful. M: Your visit with the children has been good? K: Yes. M: I will put aside two tickets for the 16th. The Lincoln Center is where it will be held. The American Foundation is using me for consulting work, but I (don't know if it will be on full-time basis.) K: Good. Give my love to Alice. M: If you can do anything on that thing, let me know. K: I will talk with John Mitchell. Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. TELCON Don Kendall/Kissinger 12:25 pm 12/31/70 K: I get to wish you Nappy New Year twice. HAK: I'm lucky. K: How was Disneyland? HAK: Great. K: I didn't know you had children. HAK: A girl 11, and a boy 9. I ususually take them out here. I get them a few weeks each year. They live with their mother. K: You did what I did before I found the right one. HAK: I haven't done the latter. K: Why should you, you are having too much fun. On the conversation with the Russians, I think I have covered the M.E. with you. (HAK had this con- versation at his house so there is no record of it.) HAK: The y are willing to make a settlement. K: He put it in stronger terms than that. They really wanted to get it done. Too much of a drain on them. Too many problems at home for a drain of a protracted period of time. With the XXXX '72 election how free would the President be in negotiating settlement that would be unpopular on both sides with the Jewish Communicty opposed. I said the Jewish community didn't put him in office and he would do what he had to. He was surprised at this statement. I think I totally convinced him bedidn't have to worry on that. He didn't say much on Europe. His big concern was China - - the long range problems between Japan and China. If they did get together Japan could give China what they needed economically and industrially. On S.E. A. they want all countries strong as possible because it surrounded China with strong sisters and then they can't cause problems. So they wanted to settle Vietnam. So I said the President wasn't upset with Reich (?). The pressures that had been put on. I heard the president say that. He said hedidn't think the President understands what had been done but you couldn't make Hanoi do what they didn't want to do. They thought the President's proposal on TV was very good. They were disappointment at the response. They said NFL did accept supervised elections. I asked if it were passed on. He said the statement was made in Paris. I checked that and they tied troop withdrawals into it. HAK: That's what I thought. K: I asked if it was all to it. He said yes and they will accept it. I akked Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. Don Kendally/Kissinger 12:25 pm 12/31/70 -2- K: (cont) if Hanoi would accept it and he said the NFL only does what Hanoi tells it. ????? he said if troops not out of there, how can you get on our side? They have changed on that position. No change in government and supervised elections. He wanted to know why we didn't use leverage on SVN and get it settled. I didn't know what he was talking about and couldn't get it out of him. He kept going back to it. I had never disccused is with you so I am not familiar with it. HAK: You asked the right questions. K: His attitude on climate being better add was totally surprised on the SSTxx vote on the SST. This convinced him that this country was ready to work out arms race. He was very boyyant that this happened. I said you know the Russiians are no longer the boogymen. They are in the same categor y as we -- members of the establishment. The young are xexx exploring for some- thing they don't know and think you are a failure. He said you had your revolution and we had ours and we don't want anymore. I told you that on trade they want to trade badly but he feels that the Administration will use this for pakixix political settlements and SKIX so they won't. But he said they need it badly. I don't know. He was taking a very soft line for a Russian. He said he could be criticized at home for some of the things he had said. He was a top writer for Isvestia and said he was not worried about his job. I asked why some of this hadn't been passed on to the Ambassador and he said he needed instructions to say it. He said Dobrynin had a good relationship with you. HAK: That's right. K: He didn't know how far those decisions had gone but Dobrynin had been free. But something tied to instructions in Moscow. I began to questions that there are two lines in Moscow -- one £ soft and one hard. Conflict. HAK: I appreciate this. I will follow up and let me know when you are back. K: I am going to the South Pole. HAK: I am sending someone with you. K: Col. Behr. Army? HAK: Yes. K: What's his age? HAK: 35-40. Able. A bureaucrat so he won't stimulate you very much. K: I get back on the 10th. I will see you when I get back. Augustine Edwards Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. Dan Kendall/Kissinger 12:25 pm 12/31/70 -3- K: (cont) is now working for us. In training for 3 months and then available. HAK: I want to review Chile with him in January. K: Just call my office and they will arrange it. He is on our payroll. HAK: If that's what you want. No, seriously, it's thexx in the national interest. K: He put everything into that and when he was doing it he said he had not job when it was finished. I told him if he kept it up I would give him a job. He is a hell of a smart fellow. HAK: It's in the national interest. Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.

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To be dixx dictated (?) by you.\nK: It may be.\nW: Could I assume that you mean by that that the whole military situation\non limitations there are possibilities of negotiated way out.\nK: Maybe but I am not suggesting we can beat them militarily and don't take their\nXIXIX political interest into account.\nW: What, if any, relationship could there be between this feeling you are felling\nhere and what the Administration - - Rogers yesterday -- waying about the bombing.\nOr is there a relationship?\nK: I don't want to speculate on that. They will lock themselves into another road.\nIf you had seen me for an interview I dx wouldn't have gone as far as I did yesterday.\nWe are talking xxx about gut feeling and we have been wrong before.\nW: Now that you have pointed it out xxxx there seems to be an element of logic.\nK: You won't subscribe it to me. Whether you write it or not is your problem.\nWhat I gave you yesterday I did tell the President the same thing. Not based on\nintelligence. It's a gut feeling on how their mind may work,\nW: No other explanation for semantic changes. Have a nice Christmas.\nK: Same to you and a happy New Year.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nM. Wallace/Kissinger\n1:47 pm\n12/24/70\nW: Thank you for your Christmas card. I can talk on this phone?\nK: Sure.\nW: When we had a discussion sevezal months ago it looked like we might go to\nNorth Korea. Brown goes to Moscow tomorrow. He'll get his visa to N. Korea\nthere. Then he will go to No. Korea. He will make the advance arrangements\nand I will go 10 days from now. He is EXXEX excited and apprehensive. So he\nsays in case you decide to do anything entertaining during that time he wants\nyou to know he is there for 10 around Jan. 1.\nK: No worries. Unless they execute Americans in the Street but then you would\nbe part of them.\nW: Any usefulness in my seeing you?\nK: Yes but I will be on the W. Coast. I leave Sat. until the 3rd. I would love to\nsee you. On the 3rd or on the W. Coast.\nW: I will try to do one or the other.\nK: And when you get back.\nW: Bill ? ? ? - - why they are letting us go at this moment.\nK: No. May just want to soften their posture a bit.\nW: I will be in touch in a week or 10 days.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nAmb. Dobrynin/Kissinger\n4:15 pm\n12/24/70\nK: I kalkexx take it the Ivanov thing is on the track.\nD: The man I spoke about does not know the details because about that last assurances\ngiven from your side it doesn't matter what kind of decision taken by the court.\nK: What do you mean?\nD: You were obligated to take a\nbut a final stage.\nK: He doesn't know that but I will made it a matter of record. The State Dept.\nhas just to work out the arrangements with you. It will be a record in the WH\nand athe Justice Department. No point in making it --\nD: I just understood it was the case --\nK: Only to prevent a leak. I have two other things -- when we were talking the\nother day of minor things that cause irritation, one that hasn't happened yet but\nas ca mpaigning begins, many aspirants will go to various capitals.\nThings that help certain candidtates will take exception when other candidates\nweren't given them.\nD: One already applied. I wrote to Moscow but haven't received a response.\nFor the first of January. Don't know whtat the answer is. We were told rather\nasked if it was possible.\nK: We cannot say that someone shouldn't visit Moscow but when the Presidwnt\nwas a candidate the circle of pepx people he could see was definitive. If it changed\nfor these, it would cause\n.\nD: No one will ask any candidate to do anything.\nK: But taken out of context it could be used that way.\nD: How can we keep it quiet?\nK: It's entirely a sovereign decision. It's just that in my judgment some things that\ncause problems within the intrinsic ? ?????. I didn't know there was one\nplanned.\nD: It's been almost two weeks.\nK: Being received by top level people and being there are two different things.\nD: No, when I talk about going foxx it's for a meeting with top level people.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nDobrynin/Kissinger\n4:15 pm\n12/24/70\n-2-\nD: (cont) I can give visas for any Senator to go but when hex I say it was an\napplication, it was to visit people.\nK: So you meant with top level if they see top level it's up to you.\nD: I have no answer maybe today or tomorrow. I don't know.\nK: The point that was made to me when the President was there he was refused\nto see senior people and he remembers it WX of course. If they are received,\nif conversations XXX could be kept so that they cannot be used it would help\npolitical discussions we are planning. This is personal advice and no an official\nrequest. I thought you may want to see the comments I made on our relations\nat the backgrounder today, which you will find constructive.\nD: Have you already typed it?\nK: I will have a copy sent over. I have not seen it yet. As soon as it's done.\nFinally and most importantly (something about the M. E. ) but because you felt\nthere was some urgency.\nD: I will invite you.\nK: The President would be prepared to have me discuss with you some of the general\nproposals and formulations and in the meantime we should avoid matters to\naggravate the military situation there. Some ideas you have discussed the other\nday he is considering in a positive spirit and I will say more to you on the 7th.\nD: Off the record, if something could be more completely now it is important\nbased on Soviet/American relations and would be good to discuss concrete --\nK: I am doing something on this. Berlin(I have worked out).\nD: Strategic.\nK: I will give it to you on the 7th. We have made a preliminary decision.\nD: I will wait to have the usual dinner with you.\nK: I want you to know on general background. In my backgrounder I said settlement\nin the M. E. not possible because it was not in the interest of the Soviets. (But that\nwas just as a diversion.)\nD: Send it in a personal envelope to me.\nK: Merry Christmas and wee you on the 7th.\nD: I hope you will see your children.\nK: They are coming to the W. Coast with me.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nTony Lake\n12/24/70 4:30 p.m.\nK: I called for two reasons. One, Al told me about your conver-\nsation yesterday and as far as I am concerned you are the best judge\nof what you should do and I will do anything I can on my side to keep\nthe relationship constructive. This is not a partisan issue - I know\nyou are interested in what is best for this country and we both think\nwe should do our best to keep divisions to a minimum. I have high\npersonal regard for Muskie and for you. And the only other thing I\nhave to say is to wish you well, and Merry Christmas.\nL: Thank you very much. I came by to tell you because of a\nstrong loyalty I feel to you personally.\nK: I had always hoped to bring you back into the government and\nI still hope you will perform the national service of which you are\ncapable. I certainly think of our association with much pleasure.\nL: Thank you very much for calling.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nThe President\n12/24/70 4:50 p.m.\nK: I wanted to tell you I had a long talk on the phone with Dobrynin\nand hung out the prospects for SALT and Berlin and the Middle East. I\nsaid that if Presidential candidates started receiving treatment not ac-\ncorded others in Moscow we would look very unsympathetically on it.\nHe said the Senator had already asked and I said he had better not come\nback with statements he can use in a partisan way because it will jeo-\npardize everything.\nP: You think he's going to go?\nK: He thinks not, but I think so. Then I called that snake Lake to\ncomplete the circle.\nP: But the way you left it he said that he had asked and he didn't\nknow whether it had been approved?\nK: Right. I said we don't mind his going to Moscow, but just the\npeople he's going to see.\nP: That's okay. Then he'll owe us one.\nK: That's right. And I've held out enough goodies. They will\nprobably see him, but they may not tell him much.\nP: One guy who's been good to us is Stewart Alsop. If you could\njust give him a call and chat with him some time\nK: I saw him at dinner the other day.\nP: Oh you did? How's his temperature?\nK: He's fine.\nP: He woote a good one the other day. Okay Henry, take a couple\nof hours off.\nK: Thank you. Merry Christmas.\nP: Same to you.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nSecretary Laird\n12/24/70 1:05 p.m.\nL: Three things: first\nrequest to put a few more men in\nPhnom Penh. How should we do this? Through the regular channel?\nI have a request to put 10 members of a military equipment delivery\nterm in Phnom Penh and then others that will be in Saigon on a TDY\nbasis.\nK: I will notify State that the President wants it done and they\nshould do it. How many are there now?\nL: Three.\nK: Say the President authorized up to 15 or 20.\nL: We want 10 now and later on up to 15 or 20. I will just put this\nthrough as a regular request with the Joint Chiefs' backup and send it to\nyou.\nK: All right.\nL: Next item, anything on the fiscal guidance?\nK: Yes. He approved the 75. 5, a\nbillion increase\nplus five hundred. But he wants Shultz to get in touch with you on how\nit should be comprised.\nL: I would like to do that as soon as I can. I will haveto work the\nnext few days on this. Is it all right if I call Schultz?\nK: Sure, that is between you and him. He thought you wanted com-\nplete authroity to do it all yourself.\nL: No, I took 70 percent of their recommendations on that billion.\nK: Then I don't think you have any problem with him.\nL: The only thing I changed were his base closings and the B-1.\nK: On the B-1 I am with you and the base closings is a political issue.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nSecretary Laird\n12/24/70 1:05 p.m. page 2\nL: Another manpower reduction\nShultz' man sat down\nwith Bob M\nand worked it out. I better call George. I don't\nknow whether his people are communicating with him. I will get this\nother x thing going. Another thing: McCain came in with a hell of a\nmessage. He says he has got to have more men. I w wanted you to\nknow\nI understand Al called last night regarding intelligence.\nK: On the civilian side.\nL: I have worked it out with Moorer, Bennet, the Chiefs and\nthe service secretaries. The hearings are starting on February 1.\nAll of the tactical material will be as it was before.\nK: The news stories read as if the whole DIA is being pulled out\nfrom under the chiéfs.\nL: DIA will still perform their functions, but the Chiefs want to\nset it up in a separæte intelligence organization. Some of these news-\npaper guys make it out like it was something to do with the Pueble and\nthat's not true.\nK: The only thing is we didn't want the Fitzhugh report implemented\nwithout getting a crack at it.\nL: Tom and I are in agreement but some of these guys want to read\nhim into the memo. But let it run that way.\nK: We have no problem with that.\nL: What we have to do\nBob Haldeman wanted a cut-off date.\nto do something to get that, but I was concerned the way\nthe papers were playing it.\nK: One thing the President wants. If the ships aren't out of Cuba\nnext week he wants another Black Sea cruise with a heavier ship and a\nBaltic cruise.\nL: I have one set on the third.\nK: Okay, but put a cruiser on that.\nL: Okay, We have been playing this thing down, dead-panning it.\nK: That's the way to do it but if they're still there b the end of next\nweek he wants that done.\nL: Okay.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n(to)\nTELECON - HAK and DEAN ACHESON 12/26/70 1040 am\nBy ETD\nK:\nJust wanted to let you know I am going away and plan to work on\nthe President's Annual Report. I'm taking my staff with me.\nA:\nI wanted to come in to see you but since you are going to be away.\nI plan to go away on the 4th (January). When will you return?\nK:\nI plan to be back here on the morning of the 4th.\nA:\nThat's when I leave. I can come in today or talk on the phone\nwhat would you like?\nK:\nI'll be happy to see you. But if you want to talk on the phone\nI'll leave it up to you.\nA:\nWell, I wanted to talk with you about the memorandum I left you\non South West. Did it make any impression?\nK:\nIndeed, yes. You called to my attention the disgraceful situation\nwhich I had to learn from you.\nthat the Government had taken a\nposition. We are trying to sort it out now.\nA:\nWould it hurt or help you for me to give attention to this?\nK:\nIt could hurt us.\nA:\nYou know.\npeople might read something in it.\nsay you put me up\nto it.\nK:\nI know what you mean. People will say we' re in ca-hoots (laughter).\nEven if I never laid eyes on you. If anyone ever gave me credit for\nputting you up to something Exixhe on international law analyses, I\nwould be flattered. I am concerned that something like this could\nhappen without the White House being consulted. A public statement\nby you would be very helpful.\nA:\nAll right, I'll be busy on it.\nK:\nI'll be in touch with you through the usual channel. If you find something\nis happening we should know about we'll be most grateful if you will get\nin touch with us unsolicited.\nA agreed to do so. K thanked him for his moral and other support.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nSecretary Laird\nMr. Kissinger\n11:50am, 12-26-70\nL:\nHenry, what I wanted - I think our meeting went along very well.\nK:\nMel, my strong impression is that the President does not want\nSOUTHCOM phased out.\nL:\nWhat we have and what Dave is working on is we are working on\na way to upgrade our military assistance there. We want to\ninsert more personnel into the area.\nK:\nWe want to make sure Latin Americans know there is one place\nthey can go to.\nL:\nThat is why they would like to have one placed in Washington. We\nare going to bring in a new man to head up the military assistance\nprogram and at that time we will go forward and make the\nannouncement, But we don't want that in the budget.\nK:\nThat is not a Presidential directive. In fact, his directive is the\nopposite.\nL:\nDave has spent a lot of time on it but let's not do anything until\nFebruary.\nK:\nWell, he may not want to do anything on it.\nL:\nThe Senate and House Committees have both recommended it. And\nwe have to upgrade it somehow. I am not concerned about that.\nGeorge understood that. They received all the reports on this\narea and really SOUTHCOM does sit there in Panama and does\nnot do much good. I think we have that taken care of. That is\none of the reductions we are not going to list in the document\nitself. As far as the B-1 and the frigate -- We stopped the\npurchase of the F-111 last year. They want to knock out some\nelectronic equipment on planes coming off the line. I told them\nDave would sit down and talk to them about it.\nK:\nI am very leary of OMB specifying specific equipment.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n-2-\nL:\nThe reason I didn't argue with them was I wanted to maintain\ngood friendly relations. On this meeting Thursday I was trying\nto make them feel good about their situation so I did not make\nthose points the way you are making them now because it would\njust have antagonized them. We have arranged appointments\nand we will keep the money in and if they want to change\npriorities we can talk about it. I just felt it was better not to\nget into any arguments. As far as the $74. 5M is concerned, I\nthink that figure has been agreed on and I think it is also agreed\nit does not include military retirement which is $300M but they\ndo want me to eat the military assistance add-on. We may agree\nto take $150M but not $300M.\nK:\nI want a billion increase on this and that is what George and I\nagreed to. We are marginal in too many places in our national\ndefense.\nL:\nBut they are still after me on military assistance.\nK:\nJust refuse and I will back you and I am sure the President will.\nL:\nAlright. One other item. I wanted to check with you. I noticed\non Culebra - I worked out that language. We have a committee\nover here working on this.\nK:\nWho put it out.\nL:\nWell, it is a report that Train is taking over Culebra thing.\nThe only situation on that is we are going forward on this study\nand we will make some modifications but I had this Governor in\nPuerto Rico quieted down and I don't think we should get them upset\nagain. The story is in the Post today. It comes out of San Juan.\nI just wondered what this deal was. They ought to let me know\nabout this or they should get someone over here they can trust.\nK:\nI did not know about it. Let me check into it.\nL:\nThe language they put into the House Report was language we sent\nover to them. We had this pretty well on track unless Louis\ngot in touch with someone in the White House.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n-3-\nK:\nIt was not run through my office. If they had talked to me, I\nwould have talked to you.\nL:\nHenry, the next item is the scientific groups. The President's\nScientific Advisor has been talking about herbicides.\nK:\nWell, you sent over a paper and the President agreed with it.\nAnd I was going to check with you about a release we were going\nto go with today on this.\nL:\nWhat you have over there is a copy of my memorandum to the\nPresident and you want to knock out in the statement --\nK:\nNo, no, we are working out a press release.\nL:\nHow about checking it with Jerry Friedheim?\nK:\nOur people did it as a summary of your memorandum and we will\nrun it by Jerry Friedheim.\nL:\nThe other item is I sent you a little memorandum on infiltration.\nI sent it over Wednesday.\nK:\nOh yes, I saw it.\nL:\nBasically I think we should be careful. Our infiltration will not\nbe as high in 1970 as they were in 1969. The last two months\nthey are higher than they were in 1969.\nK:\nHas anyone said anything else?\nL:\nThere were some reports from CIA and DIA that combined Cambodia\nand Laos and for 1969 they left them out.\nK:\nMy impression is for the last two months they have been higher\nthan --\nL:\nI have laid it all out in the memorandum.\nK:\nThat was a very thoughtful memorandum.\nL:\nAnything else?\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n-4- -\nK:\nNo. I am going away for a few days.\nL:\nGood. I will hold out on not eating that military assistance.\nK:\nNo. I am going to call Shultz and raise hell.\nL:\nThat probably will not do any good. He has a morale problem\nwith his staff. He is a sincere guy and I would like to help\nhim if I can.\nK:\nAlright Mel.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nThe President\nMr. Kissinger\n12 Noon, 12-26-70\nK:\nHello Mr. President. I have two matters. One is I have the POW\nletter which is pretty full statement. I will keep it for you until\nyou get back on Monday unless you feel you want to release it\ntoday.\nP:\nHave you found anyone to send it to?\nK:\nNo, I thought we would send it to all the wives.\nP:\nWell, we can't publish it until then.\nK:\nThere is an American Convention Society meeting tomorrow and\nthey are going to come up with a report blasting the herbicide\nreport in Vietnam. At the same time, we had made a study to\nphase out our herbicide operations in Vietnam by May of next\nyear and we were ready to announce early next week but we could\nlet it go today and it would not look as though we were listening\nto the howls of that society.\nP:\nYes. I think you could do that. I think on the POW thing we could\nget Colson or somebody working on it who is working with that\norganization. If we are going to generate it, we have to have\nsomething done today. Could this be put out as a statement?\nIs it in a form that we could do it? I would like this to be out\nby today. The people don't give a damn about what we are\ndoing about herbicides.\nK:\nIt would be an easy matter to change the letter into a statement.\nIt just needs a different introduction and ending.\nP:\nAlright, if you would not mind, just make it a statement. What\ndoes it say?\nK:\nIt sums up what you have done since you came into office. We\nhad Ray Price go over it yesterday.\nP:\nGood. This would be great to get in Sunday's papers. There is an\norganization of POW wives (the main one) that we could send it to\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n-2-\nthem as a statement. I have not thought of a way to get it out.\nThe statement should not go out unless we are responding to\nsomething. What are we responding to? The main thing is\ntell them to get off their butts in the mail room and find that\nletter. We received scores of letters after Sonntay. Then\nfind that letter and make this in response to that letter. I will\nget hold of Haldeman and get him to do it. Meantime, get the\nherbicide thing out. I think the POW thing is good news to put\nout and I will tell them to find the letter.\nK:\nGood. The letter is all done and in good shape. We are getting\na lot of heat from Jewish groups about these people who were\nsentenced and we have urged Ron to say nothing.\nP:\nYes. That is right. I am for capital punishment for hijackers.\nI am glad to see the Jewish people raising cain with the Russians.\nThe idea of putting out a big public statement is like blowing\ninto the wind.\nK:\nAnd also whatever the trial, these are after all their own citizens.\nP:\nThat is right. They are not American citizens. They were not\npart of that Turkish group were they?\nK:\nNo. I wouldn't be surprised if they were framed but who are we\nto say that. I think we would irritate the Soviets if we said that\nnow.\nP:\nI think everyone should be tough on hijackers.\nK:\nThe report says it was a KGB trap of people who wanted to flee.\nP:\nTell your Jewish people we are looking into it.\nK:\nWe have shifted it to the State Department.\nP:\nGive it to the same guy who handled the Lithuanian matter. I\nwill get hold of Haldeman on the POW matter.\nK:\nThank you Mr. President.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nMr. Shultz\nMr. Kissinger\n12:05 pm, 12-26-70\nK:\nI just talked to Laird and want to close the circuit because he is\nso crooked. He claims that you have asked him to close down\nSOUTHCOM.\nS:\nI am not sure.\nK:\nAt any rate, the President does not want it closed down and we\ndon't want Laird to claim budget support. We have to have a\nplace for those people down there to go.\nS:\nOn our list we had the closing of several commands.\nK:\nI don't care about the others but SOUTHCOM we do not want\nclosed this year. Laird is eager to close it. He says he will\ndelay against your pressures. I had not understood that list\nincluded this. He does not want to take the B-1 with which I\nagree. And also on the F-111, we are talking about avionics,\nnot the plane and I have doubts OMB should get into that much\ndetail. I don't know whether for piddling sums it is worth\ngoing against military judgment.\nS:\nLet us bear that in mind. The frigate is left to be discussed,\nK:\nThe only other thing. My understanding is we were going to\nhave a billion net increase and he tells me we will have a re-\nduction in military assistance program and it will not be a billion\nincrease. I understood you were willing to give him more\nthan a billion if he justified it by reductions. That is my under-\nstanding. It isn't that once he settles on a billion we will start\nwhacking away at that.\nS:\nThere is a lot of looseness about this and I thought when we went\nover to discuss this that Laird would be there but it was Moorer\nand Moot. At various points Moot suggested that these were\nthings that the staff could work out. For example, they had\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n-2-\nthree items of repairs. Our people felt these were all in the\nbase. There was some discussion back and forth and Moot\nsaid we could work this out with the staff.\nK:\nI do want to give them a little more air with their budget.\nS:\nThis was the whole idea and I thought the meeting worked out\nwell. We certainly would not have gotten anywhere without\nyour support and Wayne Smith's help. An interesting side --\nI know you are concerned about the Joint Chiefs interest --\nMoorer was extremely happy when it ended.\nK:\nWell, you won't get anywhere on the frigate part because Laird\nput it in the budget when he was in Congress himself. I will be\ngone next week George.\nS:\nIf there are any problems, I will call you. We are not fighting\nthe budget number with them. If my man wants to talk to someone\nwho should he talk to, Smith?\nK:\nYes.\nS:\nI would like to see them get some stuff together and shortly after\nyou get back get to gether.\nK:\nThe President should be clear about where we are going before\nwe strike. The intelligence community knows too much.\nS:\nOkay. Have a good holiday.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nGovernor Rockefeller\nMr. Kissinger\n12:35 pm, 12-26-70\nR:\nHello Henry.\nK:\nI am sitting in my office looking at that sculpture. It is very\nnice.\nR:\nAren't you nice. I hope you like it.\nK:\nWhat I called you about was this. We thought on this intelligence\nstudy that first of all there is almost no way it can be done by\nasking the agencies to study themselves and secondly, duplica-\ntion of mechanisms would be too cumbersome for FIAB to start\nfrom scratch on. We have formed a group of Shultz's people\nand my people and we want to use FIAB as a parent organization\nand within FIAB the President is hoping you will help us push it.\nThis is something in which Navy blood is going to be spilled.\nIt does not require anything of you right now. We are setting up\na little group here to go through the process, to do the staff work.\nWe will feed that to FIAB and hope they will endorse it and when\nwe have our preliminary work done I would like to brief you on it\neither here or send someone up there. We thought between you\nand Baker -\nR:\nYes. Baker is a helluva good guy. What about Land? He is\nextremely bright.\nK:\nYes he is bright. Franklin Murphy is a disaster. He won't\nstop talking.\nR:\nBut we get along in our own group.\nK:\nYes. The Admiral is good but on this issue it is going to be bad.\nR:\nWhat really is missing is a professional organization that would be\nof a permanent character that would be under you.\nK:\nStrangely enough, some of the people in the OMB have come up\nwith the same idea.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n-2-\nR:\nFor instance, just to use that Chilean thing - national interests\nshould be analyzed but just straight \"what is in our own national\ninterest¹ and there is no place except within your own shop.\nWe get all this stuff and what I go to immediately is how do we\ntake this information, what do we do with it?\nK:\nYes, but I get over-loaded.\nR:\nYes, you have to go to the hottest ones.\nK:\nOr I may not understand it. On that Chilean thing - for once I\ntrusted the bureaucracy's opinion.\nR:\nI do feel Henry - I think it is worth considering tying this in.\nK:\nThe President is prepared to send it up as Presidential reorganization.\nR:\nOf course with the money shortage I think they have to do something\nabout this.\nK:\nYes.\nR:\nI will be very happy to work on it.\nK:\nI am going to the West Coast to work on the President's Annual\nReport and will be back the week after New Years.\nR:\nWhile I am on the phone, the situation of the other governors.\nI don't know what the President is planning on doing.\nK:\nI don't think he is planning on $10M.\nR:\nI have everyone supporting it now and it is only 5% of his budget.\nAnd everyone is going along with it.\nK:\nYou should definitely talk to George Shultz.\nR:\nTell George I will call him on Monday. I have been on the phone\ntrying to decide what to do if the New York City firemen, garbage\ncollectors, etc go on strike. I may have to conscript these people.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n-3-\nI will have to declare an emergency and conscript them. He\ndoes not realize. He thinks by making the gesture he will be alright\nbut he is wrong. Happy is leaving. She says the tension is too\ngreat. You and I are used to dealing with tensions. The chaos\nwill be something and I think he should forget 172. EVexyone\nEven if Congress does not get it to him, he should ask for it.\nCan Ehrlichman or Shultz have more influence?\nK:\nEither one really.\nR:\nWell, there is none in the Congress. When I am inaugurated I\nhave to lay it on the line as to what Congress must do. They are\nutterly leaderless. I will leave out the President. Congress is\nnot reflective of our needs. I think that these guys are living in\nsort of a business as usual and I think we have come to an end\nof that as far as domestic scene is concerned.\nK:\nThe international scene also.\nR:\nI have had to reorganize my staff, and work out my message.\nK:\nOne amazing thing to me. Here you have been in public life\n13 years and yet, again, you are the most fascinating man in\npolitics. You are the man with the most vision. The people\nthat now get to the top are poor technicians of power. As long\nas I have known you, you know what perspective to pursue.\nThese people the Kennedy's, Muskie's etc -- they do not\nhave this. Or the Lindsays. When I see you, I must tell you\nabout a conversation I had with Kennedy the other day. It is this\ncomplete lack of moral character, a deep lack of integrity.\nPeople like Dulles, Eisenhower or Truman -- these were all\npeople who still had purposes.\nR:\nI think this is a very important point. But maybe the shakeup\nwhich we will have -- the story in the paper that says the students\nat college are forced to work, etc.\nK:\nI think the people like the Kennedy's will be replaced in a few\nyears. I think it is very important that somebody like you calls\nthe issues as they are.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n- -4-\nR:\nThis is what I am trying to do in this statement. The interesting\nthing is I have had to write it myself. You can't get writers that\ncan do it. It really goes right to the bottom of it.\nK:\nI will look forward to hearing it.\nR:\nAnd I will help all I can on the project. Goodbye Henry.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nFlanigan/Kissinger\n9:22 am\n12/28/70\nK: I have come to the conclusion that I want to talk about that we should stop\nthe textile negotiations. They xxxxx will let you see the tape of my conversation\nwith my fellow. klex I talked with Gehlin who talked with Sato and Miazawa.\nHe says Miazawa said -- to the chief of the editorial (staff) of the Post -- that\nwe are trying to get them to sign another document on the deck of the Missouri.\nI don't see what we will get out of it anymore. I know it's a problem for you.\nF: What I think can come out of it, if they find it preferable to legislature and\nSato can live with it.\nK: He will never admit that he cannot happily live with it.\nF: We can put it to him on the basis of what do you prefer? It's possible that\nwe can have an agreement that is an acceptable agreement to them and that\nactions under that agreement would be unilateral U.S. actions and not things\nthey agreed to do.\nK: So they are agreeing to unilateral action. It's a fact of life.\nF: No it's not. We don't have that power short of a trade bill SO we would have\nthe right to act without xx trade legislation.\nK: So we will get a shallacking everytime we act.\nF: No because we have plenty of unused\nagainst them. It would be\nagainst them only worse. If you are not sure they will take retaliatiry action\nunder the agreement then why ??7???. It will weaken Sato's position.\nK: Either he is so cracked that no agreement is worth anything or he is NOK\nis an objective bind and it's too dangerous.\nF: For his political future? I don't see why that kind of agreement where they --\nK: I don't see how hecan give his word twice in one year and not show any sign\nof living up to it. We didn't start it.\nF: That's right. I would agree with you that we shouldn't hold his feet to\nthe fire for an agreement that is politically unacceptable to him.\nK: Have you the conversation?\nF: No.\nK: Tell Haig to give it to you. It's on a tape at my house. Maybe they haven't\nhad a chance to transcribe it yet. They are waiting for us to come up with\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nFlanigan/Kissinger\n9:22 am\n12/28/70\n-2-\nK: (cont) a modification of the last proposal. They want to know if they should\nhave=Ushiba make a proposal to you -- I understand you are having lunch with\nhim sometime this week -\nF: Wednesday.\nK: what they made formally to us.\nF: The answer should be no.\nK: Tell Haig to call him. No sens in making a proposal we cannot accept.\nF: I will get the tape and tell Haig no.\nK: Let's wait until next week.\nF: It's off until then anyway.\nK: It's a weird fascination dealing with the oriental mind. It's like a Kafka\nplay -- - (about a man who tries to get in a door and he is barred. He suddenly\nrealizes he has waited all his life to get in that one door and now his life is\nover and he has succeeded at nothing).\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nJohn Osborne/Mr. Kissinger\nDecember 28, 1970 11:00 a.m.\n(not verbatim)\njlj\nO: I had given you some warning that I was going to call about that\nquestion that we were discussing some time ago. Do you have anything\non it?\nK: I will probably stay. The questions is not altogether closed. Don't\nsay anything final but you can use it on the basis of speculation. I have\nnot done anything about it.\nO: I will not be using it this week. I would not be writing this week\nabout this subject.\nK: You would probably write more kindly about me if I said that I was\nleaving.\nO: I will not be dealing with this issue this week. I just wanted to\ncheck with you on either I should or should not\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nLON\nSen. Fulbright/Kissinger\n11:50 am\n12/28/70\nK: I am calling to wish you a very happy new year. And to tell you as\nexasperating as you are, the country would be the poorer for not having you.\nF: That's kind of you. I don't try to be exasperating.\nK: I know you don't and I value our relationship.\nF: I am sorry we don't view some of these things the same way but that's\nwhat makes the world go round.\nK: I think the differences are in time scale.\nF: That's right and the urgency of taking some action largely because of other\ninfluences not in the same areas.\nK: I have no direct link to the domestic pressures so I am less sensitive to them\nthan you are.\nF: Right.\nK: Anytime you want to resume meetings in your house or any other way, I\nam at your disposal.\nF: You are in California now?\nK: Yes. I am working on the President's Annual Foreign Policy Report.\nF: That's wise. Sunshine?\nK: Yes, it's lovely.\nF: But harder to work. I just returned from\n.\nK: Will you wind up by thextbaxxx 3rd?\nF: I hope so. Everyone including the President would benefit having them off for\nawhile, contemplating their navals for a bit. Everyone gets in a bad humor.\nK: A strenuous year with ups and downs.\nF: I hope he doesn't plan to call them back on Monday.\nK: I don't know. I have no feeling for ** his thinking this far W away.\nK F: My guess is that for what it's worth is that t he military appropriations\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nFulbright/Kissinger\n11:40 am\n12/28/70\n-2-\nF: (cont) will get through but I don't think we will get a compromise. That's\na disaster. ? ? ? ? ? ? social security and leave trade bills. I know Wilbur\nMills ? ? ? ? ? (Fulbright's voice kept fading out)\nK: They have been tough to deal with.\nF: The military and foreign aid will get through.\nK: Then in that case it will probably go the way you think it should.\nF: The other things I don't think they are ready to pass. It would be just\nfurther frustration.\nK: The purpose of this call was to wish you a Happy and successful New Year.\nF: And I hope we will be successful in our various policies. Good luck and\nthanks for calling me.\nK: And I hope to see you in the New Year.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nProf. Graubard/Mr. Kissinger\n(not verbatim)\nDecember 28, 1970 11:55 R.m. a.\njlj\nG: Henry, is it nice out there?\nK: Very Stephen, how are you?\nG: Fine. I tried to get you many times last week.\nK: You called last week? I had someone call you to tell you I was\nunable to see you. I have been very busy\nG: No it was not about that. I heard that you may stay overnight in\nBoston and might need a place to stay in Cambridge. I was going to\nbe out of town so I thought you might want to use my place.\nK: You called me? No one told me you tried to reach me. I know there\nis something wrong in my outer office. Did you give them your name?\nG: I called at least twice. Yes, I gave them my name. I told Ann\nthat if you wanted to stay overnight I would give you my apartment.\nIt is very nice. Then I got ill with a bad cold and ended up staying.\nWe are diluged with snow here.\nK: In Boston? It is very hard to live in New England.\nG: When are you back?\nK: If the President is coming out I will be back on the 16th or 17th\nbut otherwise the 3rd or 4th. I am coming back for a weekend of\nconstant parties for John Freeman on the 8th, 9th and 10th. - 7th -\nHe has done an unbelievable job. Do you know him? At a party\nlast week for him they suddenly called on me. I told them that the\nBritish Ambassador has always been charming us to the point of\nbeing more influential than the cabinet members. I was not going to\nfall into the trap of Lord Harlech and have us pleading to tell them\nall our secrets. Now I want to tell you that Amb. Freeman is more\ninfluential than most cabinet members and that we are pleading to tell\nthem our secrets.\nG: Not a distinction of a light order.\nK: He is most impressive. Most impressive man I have meet in\nWashington. Not at first. At first his wife charms the pants off you\nright away. Perhaps that is an indelicate way of putting it.\nG: It depends on where she does it.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nK: She is very loyal to him. Steve, we will get together for lunch or\ndinner when I find out what the schedule is.\nG: When will you know?\nK: By Wednesday.\nG: Henry, your children are charming. David is very artistic. I did\nnot know that.\nK* Thank you. I think he does have talent.\nG: This is the first time you have been separated from the man, isn't\nit?\nK: From Ann?\nG: No, from the man. Are you going to take some time off.\nK: A little. I am working on the Annual Policy Report.\nG: There is a difference in pace though.\nK: Much quieter here.\nG: If ever you want to come up to Cambridge and need a place to spend\nthe night you are welcome to use my apartment. It's at 19 Garden Street\nopposite from the Commodore Hotel (?). It is the nicest apartment you\nhave seen me in.\nK: Guido has offered me his apartment in Cambridge too. It was very\nsweet of you. I was never told.\nG: I also told Ann to tell you in case she got in touch with you but then the\nday before Christmas I called and told her not to say anything to you because\nI was not going away.\nK: See you soon.\nG: Either soon or after the 20th.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nYoshida/Col. Kennedy\n8:23 a. m.\n12/29/70\nK: Prof. Jones asked me to call you this morning urgently to say that your\nexpert should not make the proposal about which you spoke to Prof. Jones --\nhe should not make the it to our expert. We are not ready for it.\nY: I have understood. The experts will be having lunch tomorrow but our\nexpert will not make any proposal so we will have a social occasion.\nK: That's right.\nY: That's absolutely understood. I will see to it that there will be no confusion.\nCol. Kennedy, please tell Prof. Jones that I look forward to hearing from him\nany message he might have. --\nK: I will be sure he has that message.\nY: On the substance of the problem.\nK: I will be sure.\nY: Thank you and good-by.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nSenator Stennis/Mr. Kissinger\n(not verbatim)\nDecember 29, 1970 9:45 a. m.\njlj\nEllender Amendment, Fulbright\nS: Hello. I hate to bother you. On this military appropriations bill /amendment\nWe are going to reconvene at 2 p.m. this afternoon. My point\nof view, just to refresh your memory, on the Cooper-Church matter\nand the Fulbright matter you know. Are you familiar with the provisions\nprohibiting the President from\nWe cannot get a vote in the\nSenate. I was wondering what your reaction would be to strike out all\nof the language of the Fulbright Amendment out of the appropriations\nbill. With the added proviso could you live with that?\nK: But will that not leave the appropriations bill?\nS: Yes. You would cut out all the language of the amendment but still\nhave the military procurement still standing.\nK: But this would prevent the use of Vietnamese and Thai troops\nin Cambodia and Laos.\nS: It reads provide support and assistance to the government of\nCambodia and Laos in the authorization bill. I just wanted to check\nwith you about where would that leave you - could you live under\nthat.\nK: We do not think so. You can't ask the Vietnamese to sit around\nwhile they rebuild the sanctuaries. This will eventually affect our\nown withdrawals.\nS: You understand that we have the proviso in there.\nK: Yes. You have always been a gentleman.\nS: I just wanted to check with you what your attitude would be on\nstriking the amendment language\nmilitary procurement\nauthorization bill.\nK: Does not permit use of Vietnamese troops in Cambodia.\nS: We are in an awful fix on this bill. We could get it passed in the\nSenate if we could bring it to a vote.\nK: Thank you for calling me.\nDECLASSIFIED\nE.O. 13526, Section 3.5\nDeR HR. 6/26/2012\nBy MIHIRS NARA, Date 5/16 16\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Libra 08-28/12332 [P. 1]\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nJim Cannon/Kissinger\n11:12 am\n12/29/70\nK: Nancy said you wanted to talk to me which probably means she wants you to\ntalk to me.\nC: The Governor is going to be in Washington on Sunday and wahts to see the\nPresident on revenue sharing.\nK: I think the President will be at Camp David. Either preparing k for the\nTV thing or watching football.\nC: Or both.\nK: Football anyway. I don't reœ mmned it at this moment. I think the Governor\nshould be careful not to move into opposition posture now.\nC: We agree but the Governor is determined to move on revenue sharing on\nwhat's meaningful. $10 billion sounds like a lot of money but not for the need.\nI think it's good for him to stay in touch with the President.\nK: It wouldn't hurt to try but I don't know if it will succeed. Maybe for dinner.\nC: Hewas going to talk to Mitchell and Haldeman. We want to stress how impor-\ntant it is.\nK: He should talk with Shultz and Ehrlichman. Haldeman has nothing to do with it.\nC: Haldeman in reference to meeting with the Republican Governors. Mitchell\nsaid the President would do it. Shaeffer, who is in charge of the meeting, is\nlooking for a job in the Administration and doesn't want to do anything to lessen\nhis chances.\n(The conversation continued on a personal matter.)\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nMr. Haldeman/Mr. Kissinger\n(not verbatim)\nDecember 29, 1970 11:45 a.m.\njlj\nH: Hello Henry. How is the weather out there?\nK: Excellent. Superb. 70 degrees. If you can take it I am sitting\non the porch. We are making progress on the foreign policy report.\nIt is beginning to shape up. I hope the President understands that I\nam working out here.\nH: He knows you are on vacation. I told him.\nK: I really am working. I have a couple of things Bob. I ran into\nMr. and Mrs. Norman Chandler last night at the ballet. She is [upset]\nbecause he has never been invited to the White House. Said she had\nnever been invited for dinner and she gave a dinner for the President\non short notice.\nH: Was she drunk?\nK: No. I am not talking about Missy, I am talking about Dorothy.\nShe is going all over Los Angeles and I think her husband basically\nlikes us.\nH: She has been invited but never came. We will send her a note\nreminding her of all the invitations we have sent that she regretted.\nK: OK. I am not telling you to do anything about it. I am just repeating\nwhat she is saying. Second, is there any chance that the President may\ncome out here next week.\nH: Yes there is a chance. I think so.\nK: How long would he stay?\nH: Come out on Tuesday for a couple of weeks, two months, six weeks.\nK: [I think it would be good to stay] through the Congressional session.\nH: I think that is what he has in mind.\nK: In that case I would stay out\nH: When were you thinking of coming back?\nK: Sunday or Monday.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nH: We should know in the next couple of days. He has been making noises\nabout going out.\nK: I think he should go somewhere. Nd necessarily out here but somewhere.\nH: My source of information says that Winston Lord's wife is saying\nhe is thinking about leaving his job but has not talked to anybody at the\nWhite House about it yet.\nK: I heard that. I think I should keep him for a few months more.\nHe told Haig he was thinking of leaving.\nH: Muskie tour\ngetting sweats.\n[Tony ? says going to be very\nembarrassed. [something about not seeing people. He has not got to\nsee Brandt.\nK: He'll see Brandt.\nH: Harriman is going to Paris to see Bruce. Then on to Moscow to meet\nMuskie.\nK: Assuming they get to Moscow. That will be interesting to see.\nH: Harriman is using Smyser ixix as his contact on NSC to get material.\nK: He won't get anything from Smyser. He is hard line but I will check\ninto it.\nH: Anything else we can do to brighten up your day?\nK: It was an interesting observation you made the other day.\nH: What was that?\nK: That I hired my staff for quality and that is all.\nI never thought\nthis disloyalty was possible. Anyway, let me know as soon as you get\nsome word on this other thing will you? If you come out I will plan to stay\nover and send the kids back. See you seon.\nH: I will let you know.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nPackard/Kissinger\n12:21 pm\n12/29/70\nP: I understand you and Mel have been working pretty hard.\nK: On the budget?\nP: Yeah.\nK: Everytime Mel gets xgxx through explaining the budget to me I think he is\ntalking Swahili.\nP: Everyone stays confused and no one knows what's going on.\nK: We did X what you suggested and OMB came back with suggestions. I\nthought everyone was happy.\nP: We are. I am calling to thank you. The other thing is Dr. David's letter\nto the President on stand off capability.\nK: I saw that.\nP: I wanted to chat. I have no reason why he shouldn't send it to the President.\nIt's consistent with what I think wxbx should be done but I want to be sure what\nprogram there's we want to implement. I am in general agreement with what he says\nalthough XXX more detail work to be done. If he wants to send it to the President,\nI don't object.\nK: How do we move it after the President has seen it.\nP: I will have a program prepared. It's underway now. We could submit it\nto the DPRC or anyway it's appropriate butxqbxex question of what can be done.\nAnything done within a year will be determined by action. We will need (?)\nthe Israelis' help. I think we could do better with stand off capabilities then\nwe can by giving them aircraft.\nK: I would recommend that you complete your study and we put it into the\nSr. Review Group.\nP: That's fine.\nK: I will tell the President when I transmit David's letter that's what you are doing\nP: If he wants to back it up with a memo, fine, or you can tell him and XXXX say\nit will get done.\nK: Good.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nPackard/Kissinger\n12:21 pm\n12/29/70\n-2-\nP: Again this budget situation I think is fine.\nK: I have the President' agreement, for your guidance, that you can get\na billion increase so don't use MAP increase.\nP: That's what Mel said. We will hold tight on it and issues of the BOB thing,\nwe should change a number of items.\nK: I don't agree with them on B-1.\nP: I don't think I agree on XXXXXXX any issues but I think they need a chance\nto be heard.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nH. Sidey/Kissinger\n9:27 am\n12/30/70\nS: You are all over the place so I can't keep track of you.\nK: We are writing the annual foreign policy report. I took some of my\nstaff out here.\nS: You should be pleased - I appear periodically on a show called\nAgronsky and Co. Liberal critics. Last night we taped one for Sat.\nnight and it was unanimous that the President did well in foreign policy.\nThere's a difference of opinion on domestic matters --\nK: No, there's no difference of opinion. It's all negative.\nS: OK but even with the severest critics on foreign policy everyone thinks\nhe has done well and you are a large part of it.\nK: Thank you. You are a good friend.\nS: I called because at Harvard there are rumors. I called not for secrets\nbut to see X if you can enlighten me at all.\nK: I have to make a move by Feb. 3. I am stewing about it out here.\nS: There hasn't been a decision then.\nK: No. Harvard has been very generous and made it easier for me and\nhelped for me to come back.\nS: Well, rumors crop up.\nK: And I have been talking to friends up there.\nS: He heard they said no you couldn't come back and another guy said it\nwould work out all right.\nK: Even if I leave it will be amicable and with a gentlemen's understanding\nthat I can come back.\nS: I am just putting this in --\nK: I haven't decided but I will nxxtx in two weeks.\nS: I will say just to hang on awhile and when there's a decision give me\na call.\nK: I will.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nErnst Van der Beugel/Mr. Kissinger\nDecember 30, 1970 11:55 a.m.\n(not verbatim)\njlj\nK: I am sorry I did not get to see you during that week when you were\nhere.\nV: You had something to do, I do not understand what. It's good to\ntalk to you. I wrote you a little note. Have you received it yet?\nK: When did you send it?\nV: XXXXXX Recently. A couple of days ago.\nK: I just wanted you to know that we are good friends and when I say\nI will call and then I don't you should call me.\nV: I do not dare.\nK: Nonsense. I think our relationship is going to survive this job.\nV: I am coming in February.\nK: Are you coming to Washington?\nV: I will try to see you. How is everything with you?\nK: It is hectic but that is not new.\nV: But you have some quiet days.\nK: I am on the west coast right not. How is Mikya (phonetic)? Has\nshe recovered?\nV: Yes. She has to slow down a bit but very very much better and she\nis almost back to normal. She sends her love. She is here in the room\nwith me.\nK: Give her my love. I hope I can see you in February. If you can't\nget to Washington perhaps we can get together for dinner in New York.\nV: I am going to Washington but only one day but I will see you. I liked\nJoe Kraft's article on you.\nK: You are kidding.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nV: No. There were a few very good things in it. Are you physically\nkeeping up?\nK: I'm in great shape.\nV: Perfect. I will see you in February. You will get my letter soon.\nK: I look forward to it.\nV: Thank you for calling me.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nMr. Ehrlichman/Mr. Kissinger\nDecember 31, 1970 10:10 a. m.\n(not verbatim)\njlj\nE: [German]\nK: [German] You should say Z.\nE: I am not the German student in the family. As a matter of fact\nPeter is here right now.\nK: Oh, that's right - when is he going?\nE: I called to wish you a happy new year. Are you having fun out there?\nK: I am getting some work done and plenty of sun.\nE: We are not reading about you.\nK: I got that under control.\nE: Not stopping it just have the press under control about it. Henry,\nwould you send me a list of names and addresses that you want to refer\nPeter to.\nK: Yes. What is he interested in.\nE: He's a history major. Civilization, German life\nK: How long will he be over there?\nE: For six months. He is coming home sometime in June or July.\nK: I think it would be better for him to have names of nice people even\nif they are not famous. They would look after him and he could visit\nthem.\nE: I think it would be even better for him that way. Dave Young has a\nfriend in Stutgart (phonetic) and has put Peter in touch with them. It was\nvery nice of him to do that.\nK: I don't have any friends in Stutgart but I have a very good friend in\nMunich.\nE: That would be great.\nK: Can it wait until I get back on Monday. I will write my friends\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n- 2 -\nthat he is there and even if they are not in Stutgart he will probably\nbe travelling around.\nE: I don't want to be of any inconvenience to you.\nK: You are not inconveniencing me. I will just draft one basic letter\nand send it to all the people. It won't be work for me. Just for my\nsecretary.\nE: And she is past the point of caring.\nK: Past the point of caring.\nE: You should have been around for the meeting with the Jewish leaders.\nSchultz and I were in there doing budget stuff and Bill Rogers pranced\nin with the Jewish leaders and we got roped into attending the meeting.\nK: The President called me last night. He thought it went\nextraordinarily well. I don't know\nE: It did. It was a very good meeting. There is a little anecdote I\nwould like to tell you about it though. The meeting brought up points\nof having confidence and trust, etc. At the end they agreed on the line\nto take about any leak of this and talked about confidence and trust.\nThen the President got into his bag of goodies and started distributing\nboxes of cufflinks and things. As they were leaving this one little\nXXX Jewish guy kept looking into his box and\ntalking sort of to himself. I thought he was praying. Finally, he\nturned to the President and said, Mr. President I want you to understand\nthat this is not a matter of confidence but there is nothing in my box.\nThen there was a great shuffling around while they dedk decided whether\nto take a pair out of another box and put them into the box with the signature\nor whether to sign another box. It was a high point in the Presidency.\nYou should have been there.\nK: Oh yes. I would have contributed a lot. He was all charged up about\nit and wanted to make a statement but I told him I didn't think it was\na good idea.\nE: Joe Alsop was in hanging crepe about how bad things were.\nK: He took Haig to the Rive Gauche for lunch. That's how bad things are.\nHe doesn't do that for me.\nE: Me either. He drinks my coffee.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n- 3 -\nK: What is the school your son is going to attend?\nE: Bertlesbah (phonetic).\nK: What is that?\nE: It is right outside of Stutgart. Stanford University has a branch\nover there. When are you coming back.\nK: I will be back on Monday.\nE: Happy Rose Bowl.\nK: I am not sure I am going. We can't chopper into the place that we\nwent into last year - Brennan won't do it.\nE: That's rediculous.\n......\nHave you got tickets. We walked last\ntime. It wouldn't be so bad.\nK: That is not bad. XXXXXXX If you can get that close.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nCourtney Shelton/Mr. Kissinger\nDecember 31, 1970\n12:05\np.m.\n(not verbatim)\njlj\nS: Dr. Kissinger\nK: I have read that piece you sent to my associate. I willx am out\non the West Coast. I do not want to make any comment. I don't\nthink it is appropriate for me to comment. There are two things\nI would like to suggest be changed. They add a little\nfuel to the proposition that there is a difference between the Secretary\nof State and me. On the second page [reading - Growth of NSC staff\nonly naturally makes the role of the Secretary of State impotent. ] I\nwas wondering if you could state this more neutrally and make it rather\nspeculative rather than negatively stated like it is.\nS: I did not mean to load it. I do not have a copy with me SO if you\ncould just repeat exactly what you want us to change.\nK: [repeat of above - reading what the story says. ] I am just trying\nto save his feelings.\nXXnXX\nS: I don't see why that can't be done.\nK: Continuing, [reading - relationship between Rogers and HAK].\nI think it is true but I do not think it should be put in this article and I\nwould like to have the whole line struck. I don't think those changes\nchange the line of your story at all or the points it makes. On those\nI have no comments because I do not think it is appropriate. This is\na much fairer description than the other piece.\nS: That's what I tried to say in the office and in the letter. It was\na pretty bad job all the way around. Thank you for calling and we will\ncertainly make those changes.\nK: Thank you. Good bye.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nHaldeman/Kissinger\n1:15 pm\n12/31/70\nH: We are having a white Christmas here one week late.\nK: That' what I understand. You can only blame yourself.\nH: Some of us don't have the gail to xxxx leave in the middle of crisis and\ntribulation.\nK: What I called about earlier I cleared with Haig. That book won't go in\nwithout revision?\nH: It's gone in but it can be revised.\nK: I hate to have him focus on it.\nH: He isn't working on it yet. No X problem.\nK: Haw was your talk with Hodges?\nH: Fine. He has agreed to some changes, not some, and asked for more\ninformation on other changes. He agrees on Meaker, Meyer and moving\nMarshall Green to Japan. Question of Shaetzel but if someone better he will\nput him in there. Agrees on Olson, who's been a real problem, and Hillenbrand.\nAgrees on Korry. No on Sullivan. On the intexxiati internal people he agrees.\nAgrees on Trewheart and Rice. He objects to Porter because he is too old.\nPresident turned him down before for the Dept. so he doesn't think we want\nhim in the field.\nK: What about Habib?\nH: Habib into the Department for planning for awhile and then on to another post.\nK: He isn't good. Planning is the end of the line in the Dept. We have to do\nmore for him.\nH: On OAS for Mosbacher, he says Mosbacher doesn't want it.\nK: I don't believe that.\nH: Agreed that they'd give Vaky a good post. Agrees that Meyer not the best\nbut cannot think of omeone better. If we have someone, he will consider it.\nK: That' sxixxxx fair. I question Habib and I think an ambassadorship. We have\nto get it for him by Jan. 30. Planning is not good for him and he is not good\nfor it.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nHaldeman/Kissinger\n1:15 pm\n12/31/70\n-2-\nH: That's what behad in mind.\nProbably something Alex came up with.\nK: He has been our man most of the time. How about Australia?\nH: We could do that.\nK: A good rest-cure for him and give that post to the Foreign Service for\na change.\nH: He has gone over some of these. We don't have a chance on political\nambassadors. Where we have mediocre people he would like us to change.\nK: Who will he put in for Green?\nH: I don't know. We have to come up with another candidate unless we want\nto push on Porter.\nK: That's the -- I think you did well.\nH: Good start adx and productive meeting.\nK: Not unreasonable on his part. If we can get Habib a position, we have\ndone what we can. Where are we putting Sullivan? Whitehouse to Paris.\nH: Or to EA to replace Sullivan.\nK: No, Ungar.\nH: We had Sullivan as a possibility for Australia. 22?2222?\nK: He has a point there.\nH: We need someone with background.\nK: Why don't you suggest Habib.\nH: Burgus of Cairo - -- you objected to?\nK: Yes.\nH: He says he is a strong supporter of our policy.\nK: It depends. I won't go to the mat on him.\nH: I couldn't remember whose problem he was. Yours or Shakespeares.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nHaldeman/Kissinger\n1:15 pm\n12/31/70\n-3-\nK: He wrote insolent cables after the President's TV appearance last year.\nH: We will go back on that.\nK: I am planning to fly back on Monday.\nH: OK. We babx maybe coming out.\nK: He says Flordia.\nH: He hasn't made up his mind. Still going back and forth. Did he say\ndefinitely?\nK: That was last night. I have seen him change his mind after this degree\nof definiteness. When will he decide?\nH: I pushed him this afternoon and got nothing out of him. It depends on\nMrs. Nixon.\nK: She talked him into Fla.\nH: Because she has to be here on the 11th. Not enough time.\nK: He says he has to be there on Tues. for the Govs.\nHe wouldn't\nH: He could leave at noon on Tues and come back. to come\nback with her. He could stay through the 17th.\nIt K: He would get a better rest here than in Fla. He will be bored in Fla.\ndexisn't a beautiful country and I think he has out-grown it. If you could\nkeep me posted --\nH: He says these things. He said Fla. yesterday and then shifted back to Calif.\nK: I didn't argue with him because he had his mind made up.\nH: Hewill go someplace on Tues but don't know where.\nK: I would have to come back that weekend and then come back but there must\nbe courier planes.\nH: If you talk with him you could nudge him.\nK: I wish I had known yesterday.\nH: If she doesn't want to go , they won't.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nHaldeman/Kissinger\n1:15 pm\n12/31/70\n-4-\nK: He left the impression with me she didn't want to go. Of course, he\nsays you can't get away from things here.\nH: She X could go to Drown's house but she might not want to.\nK: You can't keep them away?\nH: Nope.\nK: Think you will know Sunday?\nH: I think we will have a feel tomorrow. He doesn't know what he will do\ntomorrow. He can't go to Camp David while it's snowing but he can afterwards.\nIt will stop tomorrow.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nB. McDonald/Kissinger\nafternoon\n12/31/70\nM: I have a virus. But better today.\nK: I had one for two weeks. It seems to have more persistence this year.\nM: How are you?\nK: On the West Coast and content.\nM: I called about the chances of visiting Dan Berrigan during Jan.\nK: You recognize I am not the best person to suggest seeing Berrigan.\nM: If you feel it's not a good idea I wouldn't want you to do it.\nK: I want to keep you out of trouble. Not with what you discuss but your\nseeing him might trigger something.\nM: I am willing to take the chance but I don't want you to get in trouble.\nK: I won't.\nM: I want you to put Jan. 16 aside for that other oboe concert.\nK: That will be nice.\nM: I have written you a letter on the book. It's an idea I have but I don't have\nall the facts.\nK: Facts only give philosophical DE depth.\nM: When are you coming home?\nK: Mid-week.\nM: Is the Egyptian thing a surprise?\nK: What Egyptian thing?\nM: Sadat's proposal.\nK: I have known about it. It has positive possibilities. The aspect that\nEypt is willing to settle separately ?-? ????\nM: That's what I thought. Talking already on future rights.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nB. McDonald/Kissinger\nafternoon\n12/31/70\n-2-\nK: If everything else is settled, then they don't have to hold back on transit\nthrough the canal?\nM: He did that. How was Disneyland?\nK: It's essentially American. Innoncence and joyful.\nM: Your visit with the children has been good?\nK: Yes.\nM: I will put aside two tickets for the 16th. The Lincoln Center is where\nit will be held. The American Foundation is using me for consulting work,\nbut I (don't know if it will be on full-time basis.)\nK: Good. Give my love to Alice.\nM: If you can do anything on that thing, let me know.\nK: I will talk with John Mitchell.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nDon Kendall/Kissinger\n12:25 pm\n12/31/70\nK: I get to wish you Nappy New Year twice.\nHAK: I'm lucky.\nK: How was Disneyland?\nHAK: Great.\nK: I didn't know you had children.\nHAK: A girl 11, and a boy 9. I ususually take them out here. I get them\na few weeks each year. They live with their mother.\nK: You did what I did before I found the right one.\nHAK: I haven't done the latter.\nK: Why should you, you are having too much fun. On the conversation with\nthe Russians, I think I have covered the M.E. with you. (HAK had this con-\nversation at his house so there is no record of it.)\nHAK: The y are willing to make a settlement.\nK: He put it in stronger terms than that. They really wanted to get it done.\nToo much of a drain on them. Too many problems at home for a drain of\na protracted period of time. With the XXXX '72 election how free would the\nPresident be in negotiating settlement that would be unpopular on both\nsides with the Jewish Communicty opposed. I said the Jewish community\ndidn't put him in office and he would do what he had to. He was surprised\nat this statement. I think I totally convinced him bedidn't have to worry on\nthat. He didn't say much on Europe. His big concern was China - - the long\nrange problems between Japan and China. If they did get together Japan\ncould give China what they needed economically and industrially. On S.E. A.\nthey want all countries strong as possible because it surrounded China with\nstrong sisters and then they can't cause problems. So they wanted to settle\nVietnam. So I said the President wasn't upset with Reich (?). The pressures\nthat had been put on. I heard the president say that. He said hedidn't think the\nPresident understands what had been done but you couldn't make Hanoi do what\nthey didn't want to do. They thought the President's proposal on TV was very\ngood. They were disappointment at the response. They said NFL did accept\nsupervised elections. I asked if it were passed on. He said the statement\nwas made in Paris. I checked that and they tied troop withdrawals into it.\nHAK: That's what I thought.\nK:\nI\nasked\nif\nit\nwas all to it. He said yes and they will accept it. I akked\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nDon Kendally/Kissinger\n12:25 pm\n12/31/70\n-2-\nK: (cont) if Hanoi would accept it and he said the NFL only does what Hanoi\ntells it. ????? he said if troops not out of there, how can you get\non our side? They have changed on that position. No change in\ngovernment and supervised elections. He wanted to know why we didn't use\nleverage on SVN and get it settled. I didn't know what he was talking about\nand couldn't get it out of him. He kept going back to it. I had never disccused\nis with you so I am not familiar with it.\nHAK: You asked the right questions.\nK: His attitude on climate being better add was totally surprised on the SSTxx\nvote on the SST. This convinced him that this country was ready to work out\narms race. He was very boyyant that this happened. I said you know the\nRussiians are no longer the boogymen. They are in the same categor y as\nwe -- members of the establishment. The young are xexx exploring for some-\nthing they don't know and think you are a failure. He said you had your\nrevolution and we had ours and we don't want anymore. I told you that on trade\nthey want to trade badly but he feels that the Administration will use this for\npakixix political settlements and SKIX so they won't. But he said they need it\nbadly. I don't know. He was taking a very soft line for a Russian. He said he\ncould be criticized at home for some of the things he had said. He was a top\nwriter for Isvestia and said he was not worried about his job. I asked why\nsome of this hadn't been passed on to the Ambassador and he said he needed\ninstructions to say it. He said Dobrynin had a good relationship with you.\nHAK: That's right.\nK: He didn't know how far those decisions had gone but Dobrynin had been\nfree. But something tied to instructions in Moscow. I began to questions that\nthere are two lines in Moscow -- one £ soft and one hard. Conflict.\nHAK: I appreciate this. I will follow up and let me know when you are back.\nK: I am going to the South Pole.\nHAK: I am sending someone with you.\nK: Col. Behr. Army?\nHAK: Yes.\nK: What's his age?\nHAK: 35-40. Able. A bureaucrat so he won't stimulate you very much.\nK: I get back on the 10th. I will see you when I get back. Augustine Edwards\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nDan Kendall/Kissinger\n12:25 pm\n12/31/70\n-3-\nK: (cont) is now working for us. In training for 3 months and then available.\nHAK: I want to review Chile with him in January.\nK: Just call my office and they will arrange it. He is on our payroll.\nHAK: If that's what you want. No, seriously, it's thexx in the national interest.\nK: He put everything into that and when he was doing it he said he had not\njob when it was finished. I told him if he kept it up I would give him a job.\nHe is a hell of a smart fellow.\nHAK: It's in the national interest.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified."
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