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TELCON James Reston/Kissinger 2:45 p. m. 4/28/71 K: I wanted to xk call you about your Sunday column which had one reference I know X didn't come from you but which was a low blow and one you are reporting that I though I should straighten out. The first is that because of religious reasons I am restraine from M.E. policy. One can conduct foreign policy no matter what his religion. R: It's not a question of people in this government but in other governments. K: I will let that got but the other one is the German point which I don't want to go into but if you ask several of the German leaders they will confirm. I know this is simply not SO. R: My recollection was that it came from a conversation with you. K: That may be. R: You said to me that I am interested in Ost-Politik but I whixxxxx wish it had been done by another country. K: Oh. That isn't -- yeah. That's a different problem. My view is -- I see what you are getting at. I think they are two separate issues. There are problems where Ost-Politik should bring about detente from Europeans. That's true because other Europeans won't take f it from the Germans. But on unification and settling WWII remnants it has to be done by the Germans. R: Obviously. I was thinking of the whole movement of Brandt Ost-Politik. K: I think it's a delicate problem. On the whole it isn't a key issue because it's only a U. W govt. position. We have been doing our damndest, myself included, to bring X this policy to success including in Berlin talks and only the only way since German Parlimant won't ratify. R: How is it doing? K: It's like SALTxxx if it breaks the log jam it will go vast. Both positions on the table and now we need ingenuity in finding -- it's possible. Are you going to China? I here you are. R: I don't think so. I want to. We have a policy on the TIMES of putting in -- both and me -- but I don't want to press in case it interferes with Dirter (?). He has forgotten more than I'll ever know on China. I want to keep him there. They have given him a month's visa. We hope to extend it month by month. I don't want to get into his way.

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