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TELCON
The President/Mr. Kissinger
8:18 p.m., April 27, 1971 -- page 3
P:
They opened that up on Taiwan.
K:
On this ambiguous formulations could make that clear in the exchange
and announcements.
P:
Their reply is can not come over and talk about Taiwan. There is
no limit to that because there is no meeting.
K:
The difference between them and the Russians is that if your drop
some loose change, when you go to pick it up the Russians will step
on your fingers and the Chinese won't. I have reviewed all the
communications with them and it has been on a high leve.
P:
Yeah, they have.
K:
The Russians squeeze us on every bloody move and it has just been
stupid. They cannot trick us out of Taiwan, they have to have a
fundamental understanding.
P:
Put Nelson in the back of your head. What did Haig think about this?
K:
He thinks it is a great diplomatic move and if we play it cooly and
toughly as we have until now, we can settle everything.
P:
He said that.
K:
Mr. President, I have not said this before but I think if we get this
thing working, we will end Vietnam this year. The mere fact of
these contacts makes that.
P:
Another thing, of course, our little problem of time. In terms of
wanting to announce
K:
We ought to be able to announce it by the first week in June anyway.
P:
We would have to if we are going to be there in June. Is SALT going
to turn them off?
K:
No, no.
P:
Particularly, if we are going to drag our feet with the Russians on
the Summit. They are fiddling around with it; well, let them fiddle.
K:
They won't move fast because of the protests in this country. A more
sophisticated analysis of the report was made by Chou en Lai.
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