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TELCON
H. Hubbard/Kissinger
2:10 p. m.
4/28/71
-2-
H: DXXXON Does he feel he can be more effective in this as opposed to SALT or
SEA.
K: He is in SEA as much as anyone else.
H: So no personal (gain)?
K: I don't feel SO. How can I psychoanalize people? I love WonTon soup. Does
that tell you anything?
H: If it's on the record. Going on vacation with your children?
K: No, just a rest.
H: The President will be there. And you will are the Secy. of State now.
K: I will be in Palm Springs. We are equally involved with everything.
H: This had the added virtue of being true -- that's what you always like to say.
All this business on Rogers making this his issue is being overplayed.
K: I don't think SO but you can find people you will say it. I am not in competition
with him.
H: Is he?
K: No.
H: If I run with what you told me a couple of weeks ago on China --
K: What would you say?
H: If someone said no contact with China I would be a fool.
K: Don't say Administration figure but if you said it I would not say Hubbard
isn't again lieing. Don't draw any conclusions from what I don't say. It's pure
speculation.
H: Maintain strict silence. Except for Henry Kissinger saying all in a private
interview.
K: I could believe you will say that.
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