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TELCON Gov. Reagan/Kissinger 1:32 p. m. 8/2/71 K: I just wanted to give you a call about a statement Bill Rogers made today on China representation. The problem we faced was if we kept the same poistion as we kept canvasing seats it would have been expulsion of Taiwan and admittance of Red China. So we have said a 2/3 on entering of Red China and a majority for expulsion of Taiwan. We checked with Taipei. We offer to continue with the old policy but they were afraid they would be expelled. R: What if they are expelled? K: We don't think it will be. We will vote against that no matter what bpx happens We are going to do some active lobbying and arm twisting against expulsion. We will get a blast from Peking. Some people will think it will hurt the trip. R: Some people who support the government think this is soft on China. It won't hurt to be a little publicly hardnosed. K: We are playing it hard for VN and other issues. R: We saw a very interesting **** person was in Peking yesterday. K: I will be on the West Coast the 17th or 18th. I would like to give a briefing to you then. Will you be there? R: I will be at Trenkana (?) Beach. K: Good. I have friends in Malibu. R: Fine. Lot more pleasant then in an office and when there's a logical excuse. K: Or if you come to San Clemente. We will count on it.

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