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    "ocrText": "TELECON\nSecretary Laird\n11/9/71 p. 3\nK: But then I turned that off.\nL: I'll tell you something Henry. These people who work for me always\ntell me who talks to whom, because that's the kind of place I run,\nK: I have an iron principle Mel -- I can't put anything over on you so\nI don't try.\nL: Phil is a good man. I hate to lose him. But I think it would be a\ngood idea for you to talk to him. I think you'll like him because he's a\ngood man.\nK: Good, and then there would be a tie-in with our two shops. And on\nthis intelligence thing, I have alwyas insisted that everyone be on board on\nthese things\nL: It just takes a little bit to do these things. No one else goes over\nthere to testify. Helms wouldn't get a dollar. I was on that committee for\n17 years. I am used to how these things word. I have had a rapport with these\nman and they think I double-crossed them.\nK: You mayhave to see Ellender's movies again.\nL: Yes, but\nK: Iget your point. I just assumed you knew about it.\nL: I knew about Schlesinger six months ago. We talked about it, but\nthen someone from the Bureau of the Budget calls on it to my department\nI just said none of them can go.\nK: I de see your point, and the mistake I made was to assume you were on\ntop of this\nthat you were informed of this. It actually doesn't do\nanything to dyou.\nL: No, but it hurts the Administration. I have been to that luncheon\nwith Rogers and the Senators.\nK: What side is he on?\nL: We'll get it worked but, but it was a comedy of errors.\nK: You think we could have passed it if we had been on top of it?\nK: Sure. If it had been a bill of mine, I would leave town.\nK: Yes. It's disgusting.\nL: The thing I mentioned to you -- we have special groups that hamaxe\nhandle this, especially on NRO programs. They said they talked with Helms.\nThe god-damned shame is I don't think they know how it works.\nK: I'm glad you came back in a fighting spirit, and\non withdrawal leaks."
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