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TELCON Geo. Shultz/Kissinger 2:48 p.m. - 5/15/72 K: Hello. S: Hi, Henry. I ha ve been working on the questions of the so-called supplemental for Defense. Have you been focusing on that? K: I haven't focused on it, no. S: There is a possible proposal for a supplemental to the '72 budget of about $650 million. K: Yes, I know. S: And the '73 budget of almost $2 billion. The total coming to about $2. 6. As I understand it technically they could probably get through Fiscal '72 although they've exercised a lot of their transfer authority and so on nevertheless they probably could make it. If we have an assumption of a September 30 continuance of the present level of activity then they certainly would have to get a much greater re-programming authority or a higher total of men for the Fiscal '73 budget although that might very well be something that could be done when the budget is set up next January. In other words I think that while one can argue I think there are good grounds for arguing for going ahead now or for going ahead after the President returns from Russia. It isn't absolutely necessary to do that. But I don't know how you are conceiving of this and I wanted K: I would say not to go ahead now and prefer to wait until the President comes back from Moscow at the earliest. S: That would be my very, very strong preference. One thing we are they are probably going to veto a black lung bill - a bill providing for compensation for people who get black lung disease in the coal mines this week and I think the juxtaposition would be very bad. But anyway, go ahead. K: I told Laird this morning that I didn't want to have it surfaced this week which was what he wanted. S: OK.

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