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Joe Sisco/Mr. Kissinger
9:34 am, May 1, 1973
K:
Joe.
S:
Good morning Henry.
K:
Joe, that bastard Greene in Cairo has done it again.
S:
What's he done, I haven't seen anything.
K:
Well it hasn't come in yet, but I heard from other sources that Greene
said at a staff meeting that the Egyptian Information Minister had told
him that I'd be meeting Ismail again. God damn it, why would he say
it at a staff meeting.
S:
Makes no sense whatseever, Henry.
K:
Doeshe think I won't get him eventually.
S:
Well, I thought I had done it based on our conversation yesterday, but
I'll tell you very honestly I can't be very confident.
K:
Well, what does he think he's doing.
S:
I don't know what he's doing, and frankly Henry I think we have to make
a change there at some point, because I was not satisfied with the
kind of visit between us the kind of presentation that he really made
at all in the meeting. Now it's at the staff meeting,
K:
Yes, that's sabotage. If he wires you back channel, if he wired me
back channel, if he wrote aletter, if he said one piece of information,
but to announce it at a staff meeting, they'll spew it all over Cairo.
S:
Of course they will. Well Henry, I don't know what to say and I don't
know what to do about it because I thought I'd done what I could.
he
K:
Well, what did you say when you told him this.
S:
He wasn't happy but he said fine, ;I'll tell you very candidly he was a
little sour but you know what I said to him, I said those xxxxxxxxxxx
are the conditions of work and if you don't like the conditions of work
you let me know and I'll will recommend your immediate removal.
I had to use that kind of language I'll tell you quite honestly.
K:
Well, what does he think he's entitled to.
DECLASSIFIED
E.O. 13526, Section 3.5
Per Hr. 11- 20-2013
By RS Mill NARA, Date 4-22-2016
NUN08-47/12366 [.1of3
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