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Vice President Ford/Secretary Kissinger
March 14, 1974
5:48 PM
F: Hi, Henry.
K: Hello, Mr. Vice President.
F: How are you, Henry?
K: OK. I just called you because I've been harrassed by both the President
and the press all day long about what I may or may not have said to you.
F: When?
K: About the embargo. You know you said this morning you had heard from
me that it was being lifted. All I want you to know if I had said to the press
all day long what they asked me, then all I know about the embargo is what
I read on the press tickers because we haven't had any official word. And that
I must have given you the general sense of an expectation.
F: I guess that's right, but then I read the paper this morning and I was on
that 7:30 TV program, Henry.
K: No, I just want you to know that I didn't mean to pull away from you.
F: Right.
K: But I had no choice because then to say that we haven't had any official
word because if I said anything else Faisal would hit the ceiling.
F: Right, I understand. As I recall what I said, I said apparently it had
been lifted and that a final notification would probably come in several days
on Sunday and then they asked me, did I have any previous notice and I said
well I fuzzed it a bit, forgotten exactly what I said and then - did I say I
talked with you last night about it?
K: Well, that's what the news ticker brought, but you might well have -
actually I don't remember that we talked about it.
F: I don't think SO either and my best recollection is, Henry I didn't say
I talked to you about it last night.
K: Well to tell you the truth, all I saw was the news ticker and they may
well have run together two separate statements.
F: And put it on the basis that you and I were together last night.
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