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Release would violate a Federal statute or Agency Policy.\nE. Release would disclose trade secrets or confidential commercial or\nB. National security classified information.\nfinancial information.\nC. Pending or approved claim that release would violate an individual's\nF. Release would disclose investigatory information compiled for law\nrights.\nenforcement purposes.\nD. Release would constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of privacy\nG. Withdrawn and return private and personal material.\nor a libel of a living person.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidei and returned non-historical material.\nDECL ASSIFIED\nNATIONAL ARCHIVITIS pursuant to Executive Order determined to be declassified. NA 14021 (4-85)\nNIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS PROJECT\nDOCUMENT CONTROL RECORD\nITEM REMOVED FROM THIS FILE FOLDER\nSANITIZED\nA RESTRICTED DOCUMENT OR CASE FILE HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM\nTHIS FILE FOLDER. FOR A DESCRIPTION OF THE ITEM REMOVED\nAND THE REASON FOR ITS REMOVAL, CONSULT DOCUMENT ENTRY\nNUMBER\n/\nON EITHER THE DOCUMENT WITHDRAWAL RECORD\n(GSA FORM 7292 OR NA FORM 1421) OR NARA WITHDRAWAL SHEET\n(GSA FORM 7122) LOCATED IN THE FRONT OF THIS FILE FOLDER.\nA sanitized copy substituted for an original item which\nContains information restricted under the Privacy Act.\nNATIONAL ARCHIVES AND RECORDS ADMINISTRATION\nNLN FORM 101 (revised 6-85)\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n15-A\nTELCON\nUNCLASSIFIED\nIngersoll/McCloskey/Stabler HAK\nJuly 19, 1974 - 7:30 p.m.\nI:\nAnother message that Sisco and McComber were called back to\nThe Prime Ministers.\nK:\nBut that is just to tell them we refused.\nI:\nThere was a separate message Mr. Secretary which said that the\nships had turned.\nK:\nOh really.\nI:\nYes.\nS:\nThey'd been in a 7 1/2 mile limit. Both forces had turned off and\nthey've gone outside\n.\nK:\nReally.\nS:\nThat occurred just before the message to Sisco.\nK:\nCould it be that we do something right sometimes.\nM:\nWe'll have to wait and see.\nI:\nLet me get that other message.\nK:\nI've just shaken that over self-confidence of this Department. If Sisco\ngets a 48 hour dealy he'll be insufferable.\nI:\nI'll say. We'll be willing to insufferable.\nK:\nMaybe we should try Stabler as an alternative.\nM:\nHe's been doing alright on the messages today.\nK:\nHe's terrific on messages. Where are those two messages that he\nsent out.\nS:\nDid you get the one to Callaghan.\nNSC under provisions of E.O. 12958\nby NARA on the recommendation of the\nK:\nA message to Callaghan. Has that actually been sent.\nPARTIALLY DECLASSIFIED ON 9/10/03\nS:\nIt was sent out to LDX several hours ago at the White House.\nK:\nIt went two hours ago to the W. H. Now will you find you out where\nthese idiots have it. Did you tell them to clear the Ines.\nStat\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\ncall)\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n15-B\n-\n-2 -\nINCLASSIFIED\nI:\nAn hour and a half ago.\nK:\nDid you tell them it has high priority.\nI:\nYes. They węre told to clear the lines.\nK:\nOk. Well, let's have a word.\nM:\nThis message I referred to reads both groups of Turkish ships have\nchanged course according to reports London British sources Cyprus.\nIsland/\nTask force north of PrePand has just entered 12 mile limit when it\nturned. Forces now steaming north and is approximately 22 miles off\ncourse.\nK:\nThey may be heading for Salonisa.\nI:\nThat's a long way away.\nRhodes.\nK:\nOr Rotes Listen gentlemen. I'm not that crazy yet.\nI:\nYou haven't looked at your map.\nK:\nI know they are not hegaing for Salonika Bob. Now. Lets discuss what\nwe do if they turn around again. Supposing they land. What do we do.\nI:\nI think we should get our people heading for the Turkish base.\nK:\nGet what people heading for what Turkish base.\nM:\nWe're talking about the Americans on Cyprus and moving them to one\nof the British sovereign bases on the Island.\nK:\nYes. but that is a minor problem. I mean that is important but that's\neasy.\nBut what do we do in policy. Wells what do we do.\nS:\nThe only option that we have left open at that point is the most undesireable\none we probably have to sort of join maybe in some sort of a\nto call for the ceasation of hostilities and stand aby I think because it\ndoesn't give a position but that is the only position one can take. You\nreally can't accept a Turkish invasion because that's what\nK:\nYou're talking to fast. What would happen.\nS:\nOne thing we wanted to prevent was a Turkish invasion\n25x (6)\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n15-C\n-\nK:\nS:\nK:\n25x(6)\nS:\nK:\nS:\nK:\nWell, what has happened to the Callaghan message. You know these\nmessages have taken hours to get here. The Situation Room says\nthey haven't received it yet.\nS:\nI'm just having a check made this very moment now to find out if it was\ndelivered up here an hour and a half ago.\nK:\nWhere did you send it to.\nS:\nThe White House to be sent to you. The people over there were told\nit was coming.\nK:\nHe said they LDX'd it to the White House to send to us. Well, its partly\novertaken by events anyway.\nS:\nYes, I know. Almost entirely. Unless he gets 48 hours delay.\nK:\nBut if we get the 48 hour delay we have then move with much greater\nspeed.\nM:\nRight. I think we have to get joined up by the British here Mr. Secretary\nK:\nWe have what?\nM:\nTo get joined up with the British.\nK:\nThat's clear. That's why I'm looking for the Callaghan message.\nM:\nAnd I think now the pace of events overtake that message to Callaghan\nif it gets to you.\nUNCLASSIFIED\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n15 D\n- 4 -\nONCLASSIFIED\nK:\nBut I'd let it go anyway and then follow it with something else.\nM:\nUnfortunately it doesn't go anywhere until it gets to you.\nK:\nSo far it doesn't seem to have even reached the White House yet. It's\nprobably some desk officer who hasn't put his initials on it. Whom\ndid you give it to State Operation.\nS:\nIt was given. to the SS director here directly with instructions to LDX\nimmediately over to the White House for transmission to San Clemente\non a high priority basis.\nK:\nOK. Well, let's not worry about that now. When will we know. We\nhaven't heard from Sisco yet.\nM:\nYou have his one message.\nK:\nNo we haven't heard about his being called -- his result of the\nS:\nHe was called in just a little while ago.\nM:\nThe time was 10:00.\nS:\nThe message from Ankara was dated 10:06 our time. 7:06 your time.\nK:\nWhat time is that in Ankara\nI:\nPlus 7. 5:00 a. m.\nK:\nAssuming they gave him -- there are two possibilities either they are\ntelling him they are going in anyway or they gave him 48 hours. Now\nif they're going in anyway we've got to get the fighting stopped -- we've\ngot to tell the Greeks to stop fighting. Not to go to war. Then the question\nis how to do we accomplish that.\nM:\nI think you have to start with Presidential messages for one thing.\nK:\nOk. Will you draft those. And we've got to do something about this\nG.D. communications here. Brent will you do something about this\ncommunication and tell them to get Watergate traffic off the bloody\nlines.\nK:\nI guess they're sending those six books out here by ...\nWell, we need\na message to Turkey and to Greece. We need immediately -- a contingency\nmessage to the British. I guess we have a little time on that. When do\nyou think we'll know from Joe?\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n15-E\n- 5 -\nS:\nI suspect we would know by another 45 minutes.\nK:\n25x (6)\nM:\nDo you have the Callaghan message now.\nK:\nI have no idea where it is but what I'm now trying to decide is have\nwe found out where the Callaghan message is. It is here. But that\nis not the key issue here. The key issue is when we have 48 hours\nwe ought to try to get the Greeks and the Turks. There are two\npossibilities. Either the Greeks and Turks meet in London or Joe\ngoes on a quick shuttle.\nS:\nEither the Greeks and do Turks do what?\nK:\nGo to London. Or Joe goes back there now. If the -- if he has 48\nhours we have to see what it is that the Turks want. If the Turks insist\non bringing Makarios back I don't think that can be done in 48 hours.\nS:\nI was thinking if he does get 48 hours we then ought to stay where he is\nand continue to find out exactly the perimeter.\nK:\nI:\nK:\nI:\n25x (6)\nK:\nI:\nK:\nI:\nUNCLASSIFIED\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n15 - F\n- 6 -\nS:\nI don't ever see how you could get the Greeks to stand on that.\nK:\nOn Makarois. We agree on that. I'm just trying to go astep at at\ntime.\nSo the next thing is will the Greeks accept in principal a\nconstitutional solution other than Makarois. That's what would\nhave to be done that is how this would have to be phrased within\nthe next 48 hours.\nM:\nK:\n25x(6)\nI:\nK:\nI:\nK:\nWell, if that is true then if we got 48 hours we're not in bad shape.\nLet's see what it is. Get me a copy too. We've got a great organization\nhere. Cables are distributed in this order - Eagleburger, Scowcroft\nand then me. Well, this is just what you've been telling us. This is\nabout that change of direction. Well look, what we need is first of all\nto get my other cable off to the British as if nothing had\nhappened.\n&\nAre you ready to go on that.\nK:\nThey haven't found it yet because its probably being read by Zeigler at a\nbriefing. In reply to Doar. And we may have sent him a St. Clair statement.\nM:\nThey' re still trying to find phase three.\nWe passed to the British those\nother two papers you wanted.\nK:\nYou have.\nM:\nYes.\nK:\nJust for Callaghan\nS:\nYes.\nK:\nI thought we were going to attach them to the letter but this is actually\nvery helpful.\nUNCLASSITIE\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n15-G\n- 7 -\nM:\nWe refer to it in the letter.\nK:\nNo, no its fine. You did the right thing. OK. If we have 48 hours\nwe will draft a note put here for the Soviets which we will send to you\nto deliver to Voronstov which we'll send through Kennedy maybe to\nVoronstov and Bob you can see a copy of it. Just tell him what we're\nplanning to do. Because they may go for a Clerides solution. We want\nabove all and Wells I want you to draft a note now to the British explain-\ning why if its 48 hours the Makarois solution can no longer work.\nS:\nI think there is some flexibility in Callaghan.\nK:\nI thought that point A of the Callaghan letter gave us flexibility.\n25x (6)\nI\nmean in a more elegant way. Or they will have to try the Makarois\nsolution without us. And give them our judgment why we think in 48\nhours it cannot be done. Are you still on the line?\nM:\nYes.\nK:\nI think we should also get in touch with Soumanyar and give him some\nof that thinking. As far as NATO is concerned we should wait until we\nget a tentative reaction.\nUNCLASSIFIED\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nMcCloskey/Stabler/Ingersoll-HAK\n7/19/74 - 7:30 p.m.\nK:\nIf they've gone to war on the other hand, we should have a presidential\nmessage to both Greece and Turkey asking them to stop in the name of\ngreater interests. We'll do a message out here again to the Soviets.\nMaybe we can get Sonnenfeldt. We'll handle it. And then we appeal\nto the British to get the 2 parties to London as quicly as possible.\nM:\nThe flash in is that they have made the decision to attack.\nK:\nSo they'r coming back in.\nM:\nMcClosely reads calbe.\nK:\nIsn't that the old one.\nWhat's\nthetime.\nM:\n10:38 EDT.\nK:\nSomebody has to teach me to read. What time is this G.D. message.\nWe have 114 Zebra is where they turned around. What do you have.\nM:\nA message from Sisco. Ecvit just informed me final Got decisionto\nland on Cyprus taken. Precise timing of landing of landing up to\nmilitary leaders but we have impression is within the hour if it has\nnot already taking place. Ecevit said so long as Greeks don't fire\nwe won't. If Greeks are cooperative we can stabilize our forces\nand a certain number of places in Cyprus and then Turkey is ready\nto negotiate as to who will be present at the Cyprus under such\ncircumstances Ecevit said Got does not XXXXXXXX\ncare.\nHe\nassured\nus in response to my request that every effort would be made to avoid\ninjury to American citizens and all civilians on the island. Ecevit\nasked that the y phone the Greeks to inform them of the above and to\nstress that there will be no Turk firing if Greeks refrain from same.\nEcevit said he is XX going to Army Headquarters to urge his\ncommanders to \"take chances\" to avoid any gunfire if at all possible.\nK:\nWe don't need the 48 hour contingency plan. 1\nM:\nThe other wire says the Turkish force north of Ireland has turned\nsouth again and ships are spread out in lines ten miles long and are\nnow approximately 10 miles from coast.\nK:\nWhere could Scowcroft have gone at this particular moment in history.\nYou think I could keep both of you sitting here while I discuss this.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n- 2 -\nK:\nWe didn't get the Callaghan message but it is now totally overtaken\nby events. Well, we better get -- where is Sisco now?\nM:\nHe is apparently still there but I would suppose he is leaving soon.\nK:\nI think Sisco ought to go to Athens.\nThat's where he ;can do most\ngood.\nM:\nWhat instructions should he have ?\nK:\nHis instructions are to urge them not to fire and to start an\nwe will support immediate negotiations looking for a consitutional\nsolution and let him surface the XXXXXXXXX solution.\nClerides\nK:\nI think we should give Taska the outline of the Clerides solution.\nFirst of all get a flash to Taska what Wheaton has to transmit to\nthem. Secondly tell them we recommend that they not go war. That\nthe consequences for everybody including themselves would be\ndisastrous. And three, we continue to save the return to the\nconsitutional arrangements including the level of military forces\non the island as it was prior to the coup. I mean now the Turks\nhave something to bargain with. Four, we think under these\nconditions, a comprehmise solution is necessary and we recommend\n-- and our idea is that perhaps Clerides can take over and if they\nagree we will put this to the Turks. And Sisco is coming to discuss\nit with them.\nS:\nYou think it would be useful for me to telephone Callaghan.\nK:\nYes,\nS:\nAnd just tell him wha we're doing and get him to weigh in right away.\nK:\nIts night\nnever mind.\nS:\nIt's five hours.\nK:\nIt's alright. I'll call him if I can get my people to put in a call to\nCallaghan immediately and tell them to wake him up. And tell them\nto wake him up.\nM:\nMr. Secretary. How about our convening an immediate meeting of\nthe Security Council and asking for\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n- 3 -\nK:\nNo, no. God no.\nM:\nTelling them all to excerise restraint.\nK:\nNo. I don't want to get the Russians in yet. Let's first get somebody\nto Greece. We can call a meeting of the Security Council in another\ncouple of hours if necessary.\nM:\nIt's scheduled at 11 tomorrow morning as it now stands.\nK:\nLook to me the Security Coun cil is far down on the agenda. It will\nmake no contribution, it will get the Russians involved and the best\nhope is Sisco now. But also tell Ervin what we are doing.\nLet him see Souvana. OK can you draft that message to Callaghan\nimmediately.\nM:\nMr. Secretary. May I suggest that you XIXI call Callaghan directly.\nK:\nI'm calling Callaghan but I want a message drafted anyway.\nM:\nAlright. I think we should get craking on what is necessary in Athens\nright away.\nK:\nThat's right. The first message that has to be done is the one to Taska.\nS:\nThe question is whether we telephone Taska and\nK:\nThen the whole world will know.\nS:\nThe whole world is going to know shortly the first landing you know.\nK:\nBut we don't want our solution known by the whole ;world.\nS:\nThat's true but I mean in terms\nK:\nThat ;you can do and you can say we are sending a -- it finally got\nhere the letter to Callaghan. We got a great system here. Fischer\ngot thr ough with it. So I think the operative part - the message from\nthe Turks you should call Taska about right away.\nS:\nDo you want Presi dential messages too.\nK:\nThat too. But the first thing now is to get instructions to Taska about\nhow we think this thing can go. I think the Greeks have to understand\nit is now too late. Either stonewall it. They should not go to war and\nthat we think this is the way it could go and if they're willing to do it\nSisco is on the way and -- so call Taska -- somebody other than Stabler\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n- 4 -\nK:\nStabler draft the message to Taska and then read it to me immediately.\nThen we do the Presidential messages.\nS: Alright.\nK:\nMaybe Bob, you can call Taska. OK Thank you.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nNIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS PROJECT\nDOCUMENT CONTROL RECORD\nITEM REMOVED FROM THIS FILE FOLDER\nSANITIZED\nA RESTRICTED DOCUMENT OR CASE FILE HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM\nTHIS FILE FOLDER. FOR A DESCRIPTION OF THE ITEM REMOVED\nAND THE REASON FOR ITS REMOVAL, CONSULT DOCUMENT ENTRY\nNUMBER 2 ON EITHER THE DOCUMENT WITHDRAWAL RECORD\n(GSA FORM 7292 OR NA FORM 1421) OR NARA WITHDRAWAL SHEET\n(GSA FORM 7122) LOCATED IN THE FRONT OF THIS FILE FOLDER.\nA sanitized copy substituted for an original item which\nContains information restricted under the Privacy Act.\nNATIONAL ARCHIVES AND RECORDS ADMINISTRATION\nNLN FORM 101 (revised 6-85)\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n15-L\nTELCON\nHAK/PRESIDENT\n7/19/74 - 8:00 p.m.\nK:\nHello Mr. President\nN:\nHi Henry.\nK:\nI was just checking ;the line had gone dead. Mr. President it looks\nas if the Turks are going to land in Cyprus within the hour if they\nhaven't already landed there. At any rate they' ve told us they're going\nto land there. And that they have given instructions to their troops\nto avoid fire if the Greeks avoid firing. And so my recommendation,\nif you agree Mr. President, is the following. That we send -- we\nfirst of all are going to get in touch with Taska immediately and give\nhim that message from the Turks about the firing. Secondly we're\ngoing to urge the Greeks to see whether they will accept the solution\nof the head of the national assembly Clerides. They'll never accept\nMakarios without going to war.\nN: Yes.\nK:\nAnd the Turks have already told us they will accept anybody and if\nthey accept Clerides then actually we'll have come out very well.\nIf they don't accept Clerides we're going to have a war between the\nGreeks and the Turks. We're also drafting letters from you to the\nGreek and Turkish leaders urging restraint on them but the first\nthing we've got to do is get the message to the Greeks. We'll get\nthe message off your message off immediately. Immediately\nafter that. And then maybe in a few hours we can Xxxxxxx consider\nthe question of a Security Council meeting.\nN:\nGood. Fine.\nK: I'll keep you informed as soon as we know more. I've got a call into\nCallaghan to see that we can stay lined up with the British.\nN: He ought to. We'll see. He'll support us. Why are the Turks going\nto such lengths.\nK:\nThey have a very tough domestic situation at this point. That is just\nthe message that the Minister of Turkey has just told Sisco that they\nhave a tough domestic situation and Ecevit is trying to appeal to them\n-- the nationalists. And.\nN:\nWell, if it gets down to the Greeks and the Turks having at each other\nI mean if it does get to that we then have to go to the Security Council\nUNCLASSIFIED\nPARTIALLY DECLASSIFIED ON 9/10/03\nat\nNixon\nPresidentiay\nNARA on the recommendation of the\nReproduced\nthe\nRichard\nDECLASSIFIED\nNSC library under provisions of E.O. 12958\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n15- M\n- 2 -\nK:\nTo the Security Council and NATO and we'll have to stop military\nsupplies to both while they are fighting. There is no sense having\nan open pipeline to two NATO allies who are fighting each other.\nN:\nThat's alright. That's the way to play it.\nK: Let's see first whether we can get -- if actually we get the Clerides\nsolution this will be the best way to do it.\nN:\nK:\nN:\n25x (6)\nK:\nN: Yes.\nK:\nCall Ingersolll. OK Mr. President. I'm sorry to\nN:\nNo, that's what I'm here for.\nK:\nI'll call you as soon as I have some more news.\nN:\nI guess there is no way we could have kept the Turks from doing this.\nK:\nMr. President, we had Sisco out there. We had Sisco talk to them\nin London. He talked to them again. The only way I suppose we\ncould have done it was by being more threatening which we weren't\nWe were maybe too pleading but frankly we didn't think they'd move\nthis fast.\nN:\nWell, threatening them now I suppose\nK:\nNow its too late. We did send them a very strong note about 8 hour S\nago telling them it would have very grave consequences.\nN: Right. Well don't be concerned about the reaction. The libs and all\nthat sort of thing.\nUNCLASSIFIED\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n15- N\nINCLASSIFIED\n- 3 -\nK:\nThe libs now have nothing to react to.\nN:\nThey're on the side of the Turks aren't they ?\nK:\nWell, they're against the Greeks.\nN:\nThat's my point. Where do you end up then. Who is their horse.\nK:\nWell, we'll be on the side of the Turks by pushing for Clerides.\nThe Greeks won't like that.\nN:\nOK. Let's push for it all the way.\nK:\nRight Mr. President.\nUNCLASSIFIED\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nSchlesinger/HAK\n7/19/74 - 8:15 p.m.\nK:\nHello. Jim.\nS:\nYes Henry.\nK:\nI just wanted to bring you up to date. You know the situation and I\nwant you to know what my thinking is and see whether we're in step\non it. My view is that you know the methods that the Turks have\nasked us to pass to the Greeks about not firing.\nS:\nRight. They're landing.\nK:\nThey're landing and they have orders not to fire at the Greeks if\nthe Greeks don't fire. So we're going to pass that message and\nwe're also going to tell the Greeks that we think the best solution\nnow is to have a negotiation as rapidly as possible looking for the\nreturn to constitutional government. And that we recommend the\nClerides solution under these conditions. That's -- that means they\nhave gotten rid of Makarios and they'll have to give up Sampson.\nAnd we'll send Sisco back from Ankara. Now we don't think this\nwill really fly but at least its a slender threat.\nS:\nMy feeling is that the Turks at this stage are not going to settle\nfor anything less than a piece of the island.\nK:\nNo, the Turks have said that they are willing to stabilize their forces\nand that they are willing to keep the existing structure and they will\naccept any president other than Sampson.\nS:\nThat's very generous of them. That's good. OK\nK:\nIf the turks want a piece of the island then in my view we have to work\nfor double enesis and give the Greeks the other part of the island so\nmy view is there are now two possible outcomes. Either double enesis\nor Clerides.\nS:\nCompletely. Henry. I had a call from Ingersoll a bit ago who wanted\nto move the Americans down to the British base.\nK:\nI tell you. My bloody outfit. When they got a crisis the first thing they\ncan think up is something trivial. What do you think. I'm not against it\nI just wish they'd do first things first.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n- 2 -\nS:\nWell, my feeling on that is we can afford to wait and see what cir- -\ncumstances develop.\nK:\nThat is my feeling.\n(uncompleted conversation)\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nFriday, July 19, 1974\n8:15 p.m.\nSecretary Schlesinger - Secretary Kissinger\nK: That is my feeling.\nS: And it shows a certain nervousness on the part of the US government.\nK: Agree completely.\nS: If there is a discreet withdrawal by car but the hint - - the statement\nthat I got- - was we ought to move in helicopters and start removing\nAmericans.\nK: Well, to tell you the splendid reporting system I have they told me\nthat you had offered helicopters. And I was under the impression that\nyou were the energizing party.\nS: Oh hell, I heard about this about 15 minutes ago.\nK: OK, I'll take care of this. Of -- if they convince me that we need it,\nI assume we can appeal to you.\nS: You bet, you bet.\nK: But I agree with you that we should play that part cool.\nS: We can move by car..\nK: That is my strong feeling too. If we go in with helicopters no one will\never know what they are in there for.\nS: That's right. And miserable as the circumstances are, we still want\nto keep a low profile.\nK: So we will work either for double enoisis or for Clerities, whichever works\nout.\nS: OK, bye.\nK: Bye.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nFriday, July 19, 1974\n8:20 p.m.\nAmb. McCloskey - Secretary Kissinger\nK: Hello,\nM: Hi, Mr. Secretary. I still have Joe on the phone and he is insisting\nthat it is not wise to go to Athens.\nK: On what grounds?\nM: Well, we were only half. way through our conversation when I found\nout you were trying to reach me.\nK: I'm returning your call. Didn't you call me 10 minutes ago?\nM: I was on the phone with you 10 minutes ago--along with the others.\nK: But then I got a message that you had tried to reach me while I\nwas talking to Secy. Schlesinger.\nM: Well, I don't know. There must have been a garble somewhere.\nIn any case, Sisco is on the line. I've talked to him. He is resisting\nor questioning that he should go to Athens. He says that the Clerities\nproposal has already been rejected by the Turks- -\nK: I thought he said he would accept any President.\nM: This is the word I was getting from him when I got off the phone to take\nyour call. He says it makes EXCX no sense for him to go to Athens now.\nK: Well, look, I've got Callaghan calling. Tellhim that I read his cable about\ntheir saying they don't care who the president is under these conditions.\nM: He asks then why we think the Turks, er the Greeks would accept this.\nK: I don't know. That's what he's going there for!\nM: All right.\nK: But tell him to wait until I can get back to him. It would be a pleasure\nto talk to somebody who takes orders.\nLet me talk to Callaghan.\nM: OK.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nSAN CLEMENTE\n7/19/74 - 8:22 p.m.\nCallaghan/HAK\nK:\nHello.\nC:\nHello Henry.\nK:\nJim, how are you?\nC:\nNot so good with the news.\nK:\nThat's it and I just wanted to check with you about where you think we should\ngo now.\nC:\nYes. Can you speak a little louder Henry. I can't hear very well.\nK:\nGood. I can hear you very well.\nC:\nGood. So can I now. Well, what do we do now? Joe Sisco arrives here --\nit is now half past four in the morning with us -- he'll arrive here in about\nan hour I think.\nK:\nNo, he hasn't left Ankara yet.\nC:\nOh, he's still there is he?\nto send him\nK:\nI was wondering whether/from Ankara to Athens? To see whether we could\nget our compromise solution floated there now.\nC:\nIf you would send him to Athens.\nK:\nYes.\nC:\nWell, that's a prospect.\nK:\nWhat do you think?\nC:\nI think that's an idea -- what would he put to Athens Henry?\nK:\nOur pet idea. I don't want to say it on an open line. You know what I mean.\nBecause I don't think your idea.\nC:\nI don't think I'm in the picture on that.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n- 2 -\nK:\nYou know the one I've mentioned the compromise I mentioned to Clerides --\nor I mean to\nC:\nYes. Well I think there is alot to be said for that. But it wouldn't be\nsufficient now would it. Would it be sufficient now to stop anything?\nK:\nThe Turks have told us they would accept anybody.\nC:\nHave they. I see. And pull out.\nK:\nNo. But that would have to be the next phase.\nC:\nI see.\nK:\nJoe is eager to go to London but I don't see what he can do in London.\nC:\nNo. There is nothing he could do here. Very much at the moment. I was\nwondering whether we ought to invite them both there.\nK:\nI think that you should do.\nC:\nThe alternative -- I wondered about this Henry -- is whether I would go to\nthe sovereign base area and invite them both there.\nK:\nThat's another possibility.\nC:\nI'd be closer to him there too. I'll think about that one.\nK:\nLet me call Sisco and I think there is nothing he can do in London. Unless he\nhas a friend there.\nC:\nThat's right. The Greeks have told us they will come here you know. You\nknew that did you?\nK:\nI knew that and I thought that was good progresss.\nC:\nSo did I. But I think probably\nK:\nI think the Turks have decided to go it before they went to London.\nDon't you?\nd\nC:\nWell I think they were divied myself and they assured me that they hadn't you\nknow. They assured me hand on heart that if I were to give them helpful\nanswers to their questions that they would use them for peaceful purposes\nand not as an excuse for going in.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n- 3 -\nK:\nYes, but\nstrike me as having been helpful.\nC:\nWell, that's what I thought but I still think they were divided and that when\nthey got back. However this is all history.\nK:\nWhat more could you have done.\nC:\nWhat's that.\nK:\nYou couldn't have offered them anymore than you did.\nC:\nWell. There you are. I'm just trying to turn the the thing over in my\nmind now. I was just thinking about where Sisco ought to be. Certainly\nnot here. There is no point in that and there is nothing more he can do.\nI don't know anything about his mission to Turkey-- whether they told him\nanything or.\nK:\nI will get all the cables we have to Ramsbotham within the next half hour\nand I will now in any case make sure you get Sisco's reporting cables.\nC:\nI will get those then if you will authorize them and I can see what the story\nis. Then perhaps we could have another word.\nK:\nLet's do that. I will get you all his reporting cables from Turkey and also\nfrom Greece. Then I will send him back to\nC:\nMy first reaction is subject to seeing that he should go to Greece. He's\ngot to put alot of pressure on there and to do one of two things and you'll\nneed that to make strong representations in Ankara before he leaves\nK:\nTo what effect?\nC:\nI think we have to do that--we've got to put that on the record, anyway.\nK:\nThat's right.\nC:\nAnd we'll do the same and I think I'd like about an hour to consider whether\nwe should call them to London or not, or whether I ought to go to Cyprus\nperhaps you could think about that, could you?\nK\nI shall, and will you call me.\nC:\nYeh, I'll call you in about an hour then when I've had a chance to read it\nhis cables. Do you think it would be better for me to invite them both to\nLondon or whether I should go out there and I'll think about it too and then\nas then stands at the moment Henry, I think I sooner he was in Athens than\nanywhere alse.\nK\nThat's my view, - -it is everybody's view execpt Sisco's.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nPage 4\nC:\nAh of course, well poor Sisco!\nK\nBut he is going to come to Athens, believe me.\nC:\nI think so, now what about the UN--have to think about that\nK:\nTet's put that off for a couple of hours.\nC:\nSoviet Union, what do we do there.\nK:\nWas going to get in touch with them as soon as you and I had agreed--in oxther\nwords, after the next hour and tell them what is going to happen and where we\nC:\nI think we ought to notify the SU too, but I'd like first to make up my mind\nroughly what I'm going to do.\nK:\nWe won't get in touch with them until I've talked to you again.\nC:\nIn about an hours tim e then?\nK:\nYes.\nC:\nThat's very good\nAll right Henry--as the Chinese say, may you live in interesting times.\nK:\nWe've achieved that anyway.\nC:\nWhat is the time with you?\nK:\nOh I m in good shape , it is 8:30 in evening on the West Coast.\nC:\nWell, it is 4:30 in the morning here. I feel in good shape now, but I shall\nfeel kightxheaded like hell in a few hours time. Okay.\nK:\nNice to talk to you.\nC:\nGood bye old man.\nKB:\nBye.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nFriday, July 19, 1974\nSecretary Kissinger - Amb. cCloskey\n8:45 p.m.\nM: Hello.\nK: Hello, OK. Sisco is to go to Athens. Callaghan agrees.\nM: OK.\nK: Before he goes tb Athens he is supposed back into the Turks and he\nis to tell them first of all that we object strongly to their actions, ahat\nit has strong consequences for everybody, we now believe that the\nClerivites solution is the only one and that he has been instructed to\nAthens to propose it, and that we expect the Turks to go along with us.\nAnd we are interpreting that phase \"go along with it\".\nNow is there anything else on his tortured mind?\nHas he told you our whole plan on the telephone?\nM: No.\nK: What is his objection? Callaghan does not want him in London.\nM. OK, that is dosn't know and no one could tell him that before now.\nK: Well, what was he going to do in London? Will you tellme?\nM: Mr. Secretary, I'm sorry. I don't know what he was going to do in\nLondon. I had to be interrupted twice while I was speaking with him.\nK: Whatis his reason for not wanting to go to\nAthens?\nM: He says there is no way the Greeks will accept the Clarities proposal that\nhas already been rejected by the Turks furthermore.\nM:\nK: Then he has been writing out the cables. / But that is what he is saying to\nme over our rough connection.\nK: As to who will be president under those circumstances, Ecevit said government\nis Turkey does not care. Now, what in the hell does that mean?\nM: OK. I think I still have an open line to him. I'll go back to him and tell\nhim he must go, he will have detailed instructions for him there and\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n2\nK: Yeah, but before he goes we want him to go back into the Turks.\nBy now what else have the Russians not picked up? What is there left to\nsay? OK, we've said so much on the open line we might as well go ahead.\nBut Sisco is going to Athens and he is going to stay there. Now has anyone\ntalked to Tasca?\nM: We have been trying to get a call into him also. Bob Ingersoll is trying\nto get that cal 1 through.\nK: Yeah, but not before we have had an evacuation. OK, let's get to Tasca,\nbut let's not do everything on an open line.\nM: OK,\nK: Fine bye.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nSecretary Kissinger\nAmb. McCloskey\n7/19/74 8:45 p.m.\nmissed first part.\nK:\nbelieve now that the step has been taken - - we will support a consti-\ntutional solution and a return to a level of forcesprior to the signing.\nOur view of the constitutional solution is the Clerides solution.\nNo other solution can possibly have a chance of being accepted\nby the Greek Government under the present condition.\nSisco is going to Athens to put this to the Greek government and\nwe are assuming that when Ecevit said they did not care who the\nPresident is that we have carte blanche to do this. Period. There\nis to be no debate he is to inform them - - there is to be no more\nlip from Sisco -- he is going back into Ankara, he's going back to the\nairport and he is going to Athens\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nNIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS PROJECT\nDOCUMENT CONTROL RECORD\nITEM REMOVED FROM THIS FILE FOLDER\nSANITIZED\nA RESTRICTED DOCUMENT OR CASE FILE HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM\nTHIS FILE FOLDER. 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Ingersoll\n7/19/74 8:50 p.m.\nS:\nLarry\nK:\nYeh\nS:\nThis telegram to Tasca is ready - -I've written it its ready to go,\nK:\nJoe Sisco is going to Athens or I'm going to clean out the whole stinking\ndepartment.\nS:\nWe know he is going to Athens, Mr. Secretary, that has been done, but\nyou asked me to send a telegram to Tasca aswell which I have now written.\nK: Okay, the first thing I want ts to make sure thatSisco goes back in to\nthe Turks and tells them what he is going to do. When he tells McCloskey\nthat the Turks have already rejected the Clerities solution, I can only\nassume either that he misreported in this last cable or that his mind\nis still enthralled with the first conversation. In the first conversation\nthey rejected the Clerities solution as a means of keeping them quiet.\nNow that they are in, they apparently have said they'l accept any government.\nS:\nShat's right.\nK:\nThat being the case, why does he say they have al eady rejected it?\nS:\nI'm afraid I haven't talked to Bob since he has talked to Sisco, so I'm\nafraid I'm being on that.\nK:\nNow could we also try to do this thing professionally and not discuss\neverything on an open phone to Turkey\nI:\nBob has been talking to Joe just to get him to go to Athens.\nK:\nBut in the process he has been told that the Clerities ideas has already\nbeen rejected by the Turks and therefore it is senseless for him to go to\ntherefore, everybody from Yugoslavia over knows what our plan\nis. I just haven't seen anything like this., I mean the Russians now know\nwhat our scheme is--everybody knows what we are going to try to do.\nI:\nBob is over in the Operations Center, I don't know what he said--\nK:\nWhat he said was the Joe opposes going to Athens because the Turks have\nalready rejected Clerities. From this I would have to assume that he\ndiscussed our plan with him-- how else could he have gotten that intelligence.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nPage 2\nI:\nI didn't know he got it.\nK:\nThat is what Bob told me. Now can you please get some discipline\nin this bunch.\nI:\nXIX Sure. Get on em right away.\nK:\nHe eh--it's already done.\nI'm just trying to tell you if you tip everything to the Russians, we might\njust as well call Gromyko on an open line and tell him.\nI:\nRight.\nS:\nShould we still tell Tasca to go ahead--\nK\nWell, has somebody called Tasca?\nI:\nWe've been trying to get him--he hasn't been available.\nK:\nWhat does that mean?\nS:\nWe've not been able to get through on the wire--meanwhile I've got the\ntelegram\nK:\nOkay, you will send the telegram--\nS:\nMay I read it to you?\nK:\nYeh\nhas\nS:\nSisco/ix just reported that GOT has taken final decision to land forces\non Cyprus--now information is XX that landing may be underway within\nthe hour. He should immediately get in touch with PM Ioaniddes, and\npass their message from Turkish government Turkish troops should not\nopen fire\nyou should urge Greek government to recognize direct\nconfrontation between Greek and Turkish forces would hand to the Soviets\nthe advantage they have been seeking in the ME, which would be disastrous\nfor western interests, not for just\nbut over the years ahead.\nUSG is prepared to support immediate negotiations with the partnes\nconcerned for the restoration of the constitutional situation in Cyprus,\nand wehave in min the possible succession of Clerities-- we would support\nthe return to the level of forces existing prior to the œup. Sisco will\nshortly arrive in Athens and if GOG agrees to proceed along the aobve\nlines, Sisco would return at once to Ankara to put these ideas to the Turks.\nYou should tell GOG that we have tried our utmost to a wid Turkish inter-\nvention in the wake of the coup. Now that it has occured GOG must join\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n17-C\nUNCLASSIFIED\nPage a\nwith us in seeking a negotiated settlement which wil preserve the legitimate\nrights of all concerned. We call upon the Greeks to exercise that degree of\nrestraint in statesmanship without which the\nK:\n25x(6)\nM\nI:\nHenry, may I interrupt a minute Bob has Sisco on the phone, do you want\nhim to go back into Ankara and talk to the Turks or do you want to give a\nmessage to the Turks?\nK\nI want Sisco to go back into Ankara , talk to the Turks, he is then to go\nback to the airport and go immediately to Athens and he will get instructions\nthere.\nI:\nAnd have you told Bob what you want Joe to tell the T rks\nu\nK: I've have told bob what I want him to tell the Turks, but I repeat it again:\nI want Bob --I want Sisco to tell the Turks that we take an extremely grave\nview that I believe they are jeopardizing\nend conversation\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nHal Sonnenfeldt\nSec. Kissinger\n8:50 p.m. 19/74\nK:\nHello?\nWhere are you?\nK:\nGet yourself brought up to date and see what message we can send to\nthe Soviets - - I've told Ingersoll to bring you up to date and at least you\nare one professional - my\nis fighting right now whether Sisico\nshould go to--\nS:\nI know, I know it.\nK:\nI don't mean what they are complaini g about Makarios. that's down\nthe drain.\nS:\nAny way do you want to do something with them after this thing happens\nor before?\nK\nIt has happened so we might as well send them a mesaage--\nGive them some idea what we are working towards tell them we\nare going to work for what I discussed with Dobrynin namely a\nClerities type solution.\nS:\nOkay why don't I get something on the wire to you or read something\nto you.\nK:\nYeh, read something to me.\nThank you.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n-\nTELCON\n8:51 pm 7/19/74\nConference Call\nSecretary Kissinger\nSecretary Ingersoll\nAmb. McCloskey\nMr. Stabler\nK:\nBob--\nI:\nYes.\nK:\nAre you on alone?\nM\nNoooo, I'm on. Do you want me off.\nK:\nNo, no. I just wanted to know who else - was on whether Stabler was\non--\nM:\nNo, no\nK:\nBecause I ah -wanted to get another cable done of more detailed\ninstructions to Sisco--\nM:\nDo you want Stabler on--\nS:\nYes, sir. I'm on.\nK:\nOkay. You will do sometdetailed- now does Sisco understand what\nhe is supposed to do?\nM\nMr. Secretary, I have to say that Sisco is in the air they had to leave\nthe airport and I am afraid I could not understand completely the reasons\nhe was attempting to give me over a very bad connection--\nK:\nAnd where is he going?\nM:\nAthens.\nI\nWe will get the message you suggested for him to give the Turks to\nMacomber.\nK:\nOkay, now Bob you are going to take over this goddamn department\ntill I come back.\nI:\nRight.\nK\nAnd nobody is going to move without your authority. And anybody who\nW\ndoesn't like it should hand in his resignation. I've just had it.\nI:\nProbably some military problems--\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nPage 2\nK:\nI don't give a damn all right. Send a message to Macomber. Of\nthe same subjstance that Sisco was supposed to deliver. That message\nis that we etake a grave view of the situation, it could have themost\nserious consequences. That we are asking the Turks to keep in mind\nthat it is easy to start these things- it is more difficult to end them.\nOur belief is that these must be restored as quickly as possible--\nbelieve is that the only way now to restore constitutional government\nwith any chance of success is the Clerities solution which Sisco outlined.\nSisoo is on his way to Athens to present that and we are assuming that\nthe Turkish government will ag ree to that, secondly, we are going to\nask Britian to call for immediate negotiations of the Xxxilx\npowers, probably in London, but conceivably on a British base in\nCyprus. But we think London is better and we hope that the Turkisk\ngovernment will accept that.\nAnd you get Macomber in to see Ecevit with this message fastest.\nRead it to me before you send it out. Second we send detailed instructions\nto Sisco who may be a little tired after his exertions and explain to him\nwhat we have done in Turkey, wh y I believe the Clerities solution has\nnot been rejected by Turkey if his reporting was correct, that they\nrejected it at first because they thought it was a way of keeping them\nfrom invading--now that they have invaded\nah\n(long pause)\nNow the only other thing we have to keep in mind is to leave open the\ndoor to double enosis but I think we better not start pushing that yet.\nOkay can you get those two cables outo-Point out that I interpret his\nreporting to mean that the Turks rejected the Clerities idea when they thex\nthought it was a way of keeping them out.\nThat I interpret what they said that they will aceept any President as a\nmeans of settling it. Now what is the judgment of the people about\nwhether we should float the double enosis idea now?\nI:\nSome people think that is probably the practical thing with the Turks\nin place.\nK:\nI think we should go to that after trying the Clerities. It is too dangerous\nto come up with it now Because it will run into massive Soviet opposition.\nOKAY_let's get them drafted.\nI:\nOne to Macomber, one to Sisco-\nK:\nThe one to Macomber first.\nS:\nThe one to Tasca would be on its way the one I read to you.\nK:\nThen to Macomber, and then longer instruction to Sisco in Athens--quickly.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nSecretary Schlesinger/\nSecretary Kissinger\n9:10 p.m. 7/19/74\nK:\nJim, how are you\nS:\nOkay. We have at the present time, reports of bombs falling\nin Kyrenia and Nicosia\nK:\nBombs falling ?\nS:\nYeh. There is no confirmation of Turkish landing as yet, but if\nthey have not occurred as yet, they are expected momentarily.\nNow the Forrestal--\nK:\nYou consider that confirmed?\nS:\nYeh. We are getting that from the British I believe, but I can check\non that.\nNow the Forrestal Task Force is west of Crete at the present time\nand it might be desirable for us to start moving it down towards\nCyprus.\nK:\nI agree.\nS:\nThe amphibious forces moving towards Cyprus is steamed for about\nfour hours and it is still about six hour S away the British have\nan evacuation plan for themselves with a Caravan going toward the\nbase and we would hook into it if the need arises, but nobody has\nindicated as yet the need is arising.\nK:\nWhen bombs start falling, they may change their mind. Who do you\nthink is doing it?\nS:\nTurks--Turks took several F 100's off about 3 hours ago from one\nof their bases and in Turkey--they were loaded up.\nK:\nYou think they are getting the airfield?\nS:\nMy own guess is that they have a notion the t before you land on a beach\nyou are supposed to drop bombs and they are doing that.\nK:\nNicosia is not on a beach is it?\nS:\nThere is nothing in the manual of war that says you have to drop the bombs\non the beaches.\nK:\nThe only reason I keep asking is because I have a message here from\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nPage 2\nEcevit--have you seen that?\nS:\nYws.\nK:\nIt says to pass to Schlesinger - Ecevit said so long as Greeks don't fire\nwe won't.\nS:\nI'm not sure he has control over everything--my own guess is that\nSancherra andthe military have their own ideas about what to do when\nthe baloon goes up. We shall try to check thru the reports that the\nbombs have impacted.\nK:\nGood.\nS:Q\nBut the purpose of the call at the moment is that we probably ought\nto start moving that Task Force out from west of Crete.\nK:\nI agree with you completely\nS:\nOkay. You've got my number here at the NMCC- -\nBelieve melam at the NMCC\nK:\nGood, make sure the WH board knows where you are at all times.\nThank you Jim.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nNIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS PROJECT\nDOCUMENT CONTROL RECORD\nITEM REMOVED FROM THIS FILE FOLDER\nSANITIZED\nA RESTRICTED DOCUMENT OR CASE FILE HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM\nTHIS FILE FOLDER. FOR A DESCRIPTION OF THE ITEM REMOVED\nAND THE REASON FOR ITS REMOVAL, CONSULT DOCUMENT ENTRY\nNUMBER 4 ON EITHER THE DOCUMENT WITHDRAWAL RECORD\n(GSA FORM 7292 OR NA FORM 1421) OR NARA WITHDRAWAL SHEET\n(GSA FORM 7122) LOCATED IN THE FRONT OF THIS FILE FOLDER.\nA sanitized copy substituted for an original item which\nContains information restricted under the Privacy Act.\nNATIONAL ARCHIVES AND RECORDS ADMINISTRATION\nNLN FORM 101 (revised 6-85)\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nat\n17-F\nUNCLASSIFIED\nTELCON\nSenat or Humphrey\nSecretary Kissinger\n9:20 p.m. 7/19/74\nK:\nHubert!\nI called you earlier it is a little bit overtaken by events to tell you\nwe had no intention of recognizing sampson--you wrote me a letter\n--\nH:\nYes, that is right. I understand.\nK:\nBut in the meantime the Turks have landed in Cyprus so it\nH\nI heard that on the radio-- tonight.\nK:\nSo its no longer-our problem now is to find the way out of this.\nBefore it all blows up.\nH:\nYes. It's a very nervous thing right now.\nto\nK:\nThat's right. But I want you/know we have no intention of recognizing\nSampson or never did.\nH:\nWell, I read what you had in the -- and I haven't said anything particularly\nabout it.\nK:\nWhat was in the Times was totally wrong.\nH:\nI gathered they might be\nK:\nAnd there was nothing in the State Department people who said this I don't\nknow what level they are certainly none of the people which I work hold\nthat view.\nH:\nWell, as you know, in the committee the other day we kind of held back\non anything there so there wouldn't be any comment coming out of the\nCommittee.\nK:\nI have -- Fulbright is fully briefed on every detail.\nH:\nI understand that.\nK:\n25x(6)\nState\nPARTIALLY DECLASSIFIED ON 9/10/03\nby NARA on the recommendation of the\nNSC under provisions Reproduced of E.O. at the Richard DECLASSIFIED Nixon Presidential Library\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nUNCLASSIFIED\n- 2 -\nH:\nI guess that's right. I hope to God that they keep that thing under control.\nK:\nWell, we're trying to bring about now what we've always tried to do --\na constitutional solution. And maybe find a compremise by which the\nnext line in -- to Makarios takes over.\nH:\nYes, that seemed to me the most sensible thing if that is possible.\nK:\nThat is frankly what we tried to do all along.\nH:\nYes, I gather that--\nK:\nBut we couldn't tip our hand too early until we had line d up one of the\nparties.\nH:\nYes.\nK:\nAnd once we had the T rks lined up for that, we were going to bring\npressure on the Greeks.\nH:\nAh ha.\nK\nBut we have Sisco going to Athens now to insist on that Clerities\nsolution.\nH:\nWhat can you do about these landings if anything?\nK\nWe are telling them to stop but they haven't take advice before, so I\ncan guarantee they'll take it now\nH:\nThe news reports to the effect that the Soviets are kind of giving them\na little shove--\nK:\nThe Soviets have been rather reckless they urged them on earlier\nin the week--\nH:\nThank you Henry much--I felt that in the Committee, , as yu know,\nthere was an effort made to be very very critical of the Greek government\nthe other day, and we sort of side-tracked it for a while--I was just worried\nabout that there might be some effort being made in some echelons of the\ndepartment to recognize this group that came in--and that I thought would\nbe premature and unnecessary\nK:\nI ggree and it was never our attention. Claiborne Pell can confirm that I\ntold him it was never our intention before the invasion--\nH:\nAll right friend.\nK:\nHubert when you write it is always taken seriously, as when you call.\nH:\nThank you sir, my best to you.\nUNCLASSIFIED\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nAmb. McCloskey\nSecretary Ingersoll\nSecretary Kissinger\n9:25\np.m.\n7/19/74\nI:\nBob McCloskey is on also.\nK:\nThat is okay. I would like to speak ill of him, but I can't when he is\non the line--\nI\nWe did reach Joe on the plane--he of course things have changed w\nwith the bomb drop in Nicosia and artillery Kyrenia\nK:\nYeh\nI:\nSo to tell the Greeks not to fire, we don't think we can do much about that.\nK\nNo but could we avoid conducting all our busire SS on the open phone.\nI:\nSure\nK\nWhat did you discuss with him now on the plane--\nM:\nHe called to ask whether he could have instructions that would assure\nthe PM or FonMin would meet him at the airport\nK:\nHe must be out of his mind (god-damn bloody) Why?\nM:\nHe feels the sooner he can leave Athens the better it will be he fears\nthere may be some internal difficulty as he put it develop while he is on\nroute and on the ground. And he thought if he could make his point--\nK:\nOh don't let's be absurd\nM\nHe ask for authority to go straight away from Athens to Rome or some\nplace nearby--his first preference would be to return directly to Washingtor\nK:\nOh no, he is going to stay out there--he is going to go to Athens like a\ngood boy, he is going into the town of Athens and we are not sending\ninstructions to have thePM and FonMin meet him at the airport, there\nhave other people who have taken risks and Sisco is going to take a few\nrisks.\nM\nOkay, I toldhim I'd raise thes e questions with you.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELECON\nPage 2\nK:\nIt is out of the question. However if his nerves aren't up to it, let\nhim come home and I'll go out there.\nHow can we ask our Ambassador to stay in Athens while our UNSec\nis afraid to leave the goddamn airport.\nI\nDo you want to send the same message except the first part about the -\nflying back\nK:\nYep. You tell Sisco to stop -- I don't want anyone to have any\nfurther substantive discussions on the telephone- - the next time\nSisco calls, he is to be told that he communicates by cable. Second\nhe is to go into Athens, he is to darry out his mission, he is to stay\nthere until he is told to leave.\nI\nOkay.\nK:\nAnd he will not be told to leave until we have a report so we can assess it\nIf he can't take it, let him go on and W Ellsworth stays.\nM:\nOkay, we'll take care of that. Say, Mr. Secretary, do you want to consider\nour issuing any kind of public statement at this time.\nK:\nYes, we should\nend conversation.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nDirector Colby/Kissinger\n9:35 p.m. - 7/19/74\nK:\nHello.\nC:\nHello, Henry.\nK:\nBill, how areyou?\nSorry to have kept you on the line.\nC:\nThat's OK.\nK:\nI just wanted to check in with you and to make sure you would of\ncourse be keeping a close watch on this thing. Can you get us out\nhere-- I'm in San Clemente -- your estimate of how this thing is\ngoing to evolve.\nC:\nAll right. Fine.\nK:\nAnd also what the Turkish capability is to put troops ashore. What\nis it, do you know?\nC:\nIt's very good. They've got about I'd say about a regiment or so\non the ships. They've got about 20 odd ships.\nK:\nA regiment is what, 2000?\nC:\nIt's 2 or 3 thousand, yes.\nK:\nAnd then how many can they send?\nC:\nAnd they've got some airborne also. They have an airborne brigade.\nK:\nHow many is that?\nC:\nThey apparently are going for Kyrenia on the north coast. That's the\nfirst step.\nK:\nBut what do you think they're after? They're not after the whole island\nare they?\nC:\nNo, no. What they would be after would be Phamagusta and Kyrenia\nand kind of a line between the two.\nK:\nThat kind of a quadrangle in the northeast.\nC:\nYeh. Well, call it almost the (inaudible) from roughly Baranaka on\nup and then just asser themselves and give themselves a position to\nbargain with.\nDECLASSIFIED\nE.O. 13526, Section 3.5\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nPeR RAC 4/14/11\nDECLASSIFIED\nBy WH\nNARA, Date 4/15/19\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n- 2 -\nK;\nWhat do you think the Greeks are going to do?\nC:\nWell, the local Greeks will fight and there are some reports that\nthere is some bombing at Kyrenia already. And the National Guard\nparticularly will fight. This is the one with the Greek officers in\nthem.\nK:\nThey will fight.\nC:\nYou will have a very unpleasant thing in Cyprus itself. The Greeks\nthemselves are a bit far away, quite frankly. They are about the\nrange of their aircraft and they can't do very much from there.\nK:\nEven from Rhodes?\nC:\nPardon.\nK:\nEven from Rhodes?\nC:\nWell, but there basic airfield is back in Greece and Athens and that\narea.\nK:\nWhat is the relative strength of those two armies?\nC:\nThe Turks are about 300, 000 and the Greeks about 100, 000. But most\nof the Greek forces are up in the north, up in Thrace. And if you had\nkind of a mixup, that's where it would take place. Up in the northern\narea there, around Sowanaka.\nK:\nDo you have any good ideas what we should do?\nC:\nWell, I think the biggest thing is to get the Greeks not to fight. To\nsay all right NEXX let's negotiate and discuss what ought to be done.\nK:\nOK.\nC:\nThere basic position has been that this is an internal affair in Cyprus.\nYou know, so they have a face saving basis for saying, \"Well, that\nwas just a local affair. It's not Greece. \"\nK:\nYeh, OK. Thank you.\nC:\nSo in a sense they could say \"Well, that was a great mistake down\nthere in the island, but we're above that. 11 I think the most important\nthing is to limit it to Cyprus and not let it go out beyond that.\nK:\nOK, thank you. C: We'll pass on anything else we get, Henry.\nK:\nThank you. Bye.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nNIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS PROJECT\nDOCUMENT CONTROL RECORD\nITEM REMOVED FROM THIS FILE FOLDER\nSANITIZED\nA RESTRICTED DOCUMENT OR CASE FILE HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM\nTHIS FILE FOLDER. FOR A DESCRIPTION OF THE ITEM REMOVED\nAND THE REASON FOR ITS REMOVAL, CONSULT DOCUMENT ENTRY\nNUMBER\n6\nON EITHER THE DOCUMENT WITHDRAWAL RECORD\n(GSA FORM 7292 OR NA FORM 1421) OR NARA WITHDRAWAL SHEET\n(GSA FORM 7122) LOCATED IN THE FRONT OF THIS FILE FOLDER.\nA sanitized copy substituted for an original item which\nContains information restricted under the Privacy Act.\nNATIONAL ARCHIVES AND RECORDS ADMINISTRATION\nNLN FORM 101 (revised 6-85)\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n18-A\nTELCON\nSecretary Kissinger\nSecretary Schlesinger\n9:45 p.m. 7/19/74\nK:\nJim, I just wanted to touch base with you on this Greek/Turkish\nsituation.\nS:\nRight.\nK:\nI'm assuming that Clement S and Brown represent your views exactly.\nS:\nWell, I don't know that because I don't know exactly what they have been\nsaying, but I think generally you are going in the right diection.\nK:Q a Good, that is what I wanted to check. Let must just sum up my thinking\nso that we can be sure that Defense and State are on the same line.\nS\nK:\n25x (6)\nS:\nK:\nS:\nK\nS:\nI think you are handling it very well, Henry.\nK:\nAnd this is why we are moving so slowly. Now the one thing I fear also\nis this:\n25x (6)\nS:\nRight. Precisely.\nme\nINCLASSITIES\nState\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential\nPARTIALLY Library DECLASSIFIED ON 9/15/03\nDECLASSIFIED\nby NARA on the recommendation of the\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determinears be declassified.\n18-B\nPage 2\nK:\nAnd therefore I am instructing Sisco to give a very tough warning to the\nTurks against intervention tonight.\nS:\n25x (6)\nK:\nS:\nHmmm. Hmmm.\nK:\nThe Turks right now are very happy with us because we came out so\nstrongly against Ioannides.\nS:\n25x (6)\nK:\nS:\nPrecisely. When I say edgeaway, we had a letter of offer out to them\non May 7th and my feeling on that is let's not finalize the contract until\nwe know what the hell is going on.\nK:\nI agree completely. And yesterday also\nS:\nIt cools things just a trace, but do it in a very slow--\nK:\nI agree with, but we can wait a week. or two on that can't we?\nS:\n25x (6)\nK:\nS:\nK:\nThat I favor.\nS:\nOkay, how do you like George Brown.\nK:\nOutstanding.\nS:\nDid you know him before?\nNOLASSIPHER\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n&\n18-C\nPage 3\nK:\nNever met him. A brilla nt appointment. I am really pleased with him.\nS:\nHe is a good man.\nK:\nHe is the most thoughtful chief that I've seen.\nS:\nK:\nY u know Tom was a nice guy and alright for a combat situation.\nBut George Brown is really outstanding.\nS:\nYeh, outstanding. Okay\nK:\nSo Jim I can assume you and I are together on this one.\nS:\nYou bet. Where ar you?\nK:\nI'm in San Clemente. I am going to see the President in a few minutes.\nS:\nRight, Henry.\nK\nI'll tell him we talked.\n:S\nRight. Bye.\nUNCLASSINED\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON (San Clemente)\nIngersoll/Kissinger /McCloskey/Stabler\n9:55 p.m. - 7/19/74\nK:\nBob.\nI:\nYes.\nK:\nI was going to go back to my quarters and I was going to be out of\ntouch for half an hour. I wanted to check how things are going.\nI:\nWe have these two wires.\nK:\nI got a call from a Mr. Sampson in your office.\nI:\nSamuels?\nK:\nSampson is what they -- - they want to know what I discussed with\nCallaghan. I told Callaghan, which I had already told you, to call\nthe Greeks and Turks hopefully to London.\nI:\nRight.\nK:\nOK, what are the two cables?\nI:\nThe ones to Macomber and to Sisco. Do you want those read?\nK:\nYup.\nI:\nDo you want them over the open phone or secure phone ?\nK:\nWell, this open phone isn't as bad as the other one. This will take them\na while to analyze. Are they long?\nI:\nThey're about 2 pages.\nK:\nI think we better do it by phone, don't you?\nI:\nHere's the one to Sisco and that's the one we need the quickest.\n\"The Secretary desires that Sisco mke immediate plans to go on to\nAthens.\nK:\nCould it be a little louder?\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n- 2 -\nI:\n\"He should not request to have the meeting at the airport. From the\nmessage we have just sent to Ankara you will see what we have done\nand told Macomber to tell Ecevit. We have done this because we feel\nwe must keep him playing as long as possible with the notion of a\nconstitutional solution to the Cyprus problem. Ecevit in all probability\nrejected the Clerites proposal at the outset because he saw it as a\npossible bar to Turkish military intervention. Now, however, that\nthe Turks have intervened, he has told you that he has no special\nconcerns about who may be President of Cyprus. Under these circum-\nstances we believe that there is still a chance, even though it may be\nan outside one, to try once again the Clerites solution.\n\"You will also have seen the instructions passed to Tasca to weigh in\nwith Iohdides to exercise restraint in the face of Turkish landings and\nto float Clerites' proposal.\n\"Secretary wishes you to reenforce the views which have been expressed\nby Tasca and to tell the Greeks that they must bear a share of the\nresponsibility for what has happened.\nK:\nA heavy share of the responsibility.\nI:\n\"We look to them to recognize that unless they are prepared to accept\na change of territorial integrity in the structure of Cyprus they must\njoin with us, with the British and the Turks in finding a constitutional\nsolution to the Cyprus pro blem. As we see it, only if Clerites offers\nan acceptable alternative, we are prepared to support the proposal\nwith the Turks.\n\"You are prepared to return at once to Ankara and pursue the matter\nfurther with the Turks if the Greek Government agrees with the\nClerites' proposal.\n\"In the meantime we have asked the UK to call for immediate negotiations\nof the guarantor powers in London. And we hope, and assume, that\nthe Greek Government will agree to attend such a negotiation. 11 That's\nthe one to Athens. The one to Ankara follows:\n\"Ask to see Ecevit at once. Give him the following message: I take\nextremely grave view of the Turkish military intervention on Cyprus\nwhich will have the most serious consequences, (chief of which is\nthe position it will place) on free world security. We are deeply dissappointed\nthe Turkish government did not heed our pleas to exercise restraint.\n\"Now that the step has been taken, however, the most urgent means\nmust be found to restore peace and stability in the area.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n- 3 -\n\"While a conflict is easy to start it is difficult to stop. Statesmanship\nof the highest order is required of all concerned.\n\"The United States for its part, is prepared to support a constitutional\nsolution and a level of forces which existed before the coup. The only way il\nour view to restore constitutional government is through the legitimate\nsuccession of Clerides. No other solution is possible or acceptable to\nthe Greeks.\n\"The Turkish has indicated that it has no special concerns as to who\nthe Head of State should be and, therefore,\nK:\nDon't say \"The Turkish Government, say President Ecevit. 11\nI:\nPardon.\nK:\nOr Prime Minister Ecevit.\nI:\nYes. \"Prime Minister Ecevit has indicated that he has no special\nconcern as to who the Head of State should be and therefore Sisco is\non his way to Athens to propose to the Greeks the Clerides solution.\nWe assume that in light of what the Prime Minister told Sisco in their\nlast meeting the GOT will agree.\n\"We are proposing urgently to the UK that it call for immediate\nnegotiations with the guarantor powers in London to seek the constitu-\ntional solution which will open the way for the restoration of stability in\nCyprus and in the area.\n\"We urgently appeal to the Turkish Government to weigh most carefully\nthe proposals we are making, for we are convinced that to do otherwise\nwould be self-defeating in terms of Turkey's own interests. 11\nK:\nOK. Good. Fine.\nI:\nDo you want to talk about a public statement?\nK:\nHave you got one? Hello? Hello? I have trouble hearing you.\nI:\nBob has something he wants to show you.\nK:\nOK.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n- 4 -\n(Bob McCloskey comes on the line.)\nM:\nHello.\nK:\nYup.\nM:\n\"The United States deplores in the most strongest terms the military\nintervention by Turkish military forces in Cyprus. We particularly\nregret that Turkey took this action at a time an active diplomatic\neffort in which the United States was participating was underway.\n\"We are appealing to Turkey to order its forces in Cyprus to cease-fire\nand we are at the same time urging Greece to avoid aggravating the\nsituation by any further military action.' 11\nK:\nWhy do we have to make a statement?\nM:\nWe don't have tonnow.\nK:\nWhat? Are we getting a lot of calls?\nM:\nNot many, I'm surprised.\nK:\nWell, I think what we should say is we regret the action. We also\ndeplore the previous Greek actions that helped precipitate this crisis.\nTell them that I've been in frequent touch -- I mean don't put that out\nas a statement, just have it said -- I'm in frequent touch with the\nPresident, I've been in touch with Callaghan and Sisco is in Athens\nand we are in touch with all of the interested governments.\nM: What was Callaghan's reaction?\nK:\nCallaghan agrees with our line and he is also thinking of calling a\nmeeting. Make sure they don't take Callaghan off the line there.\nSomebody on that other flickering line. Here they come. Who is it?\n(Talks to someone who has come in the room.)\nM:\nCallaghan is going to let you know about going?\nK:\nHe's going to let me know whether he wants to hold the talks in London\nor Cyprus, but I'm going to recommend London.\nM:\nHe's agreeable to coming to London?\nK:\nYeh. But let him announce that. Now Irwin ought to go and see Sovannah.\nM:\nA message is bei ng done to him.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n-5- -\nK:\nOK, why don't I check with you in about a half hour when I get to my\nresidence.\nM:\nAll right.\n(Stabler comes into the conversation.)\nS:\nHenry, you've got a message to the Soviets out there.\nK:\nTo the what?\nS:\nTo the Soviets.\nK:\nI know and I will let you know about that as soon as I've read it.\nS:\nOK, you've got it. All right.\nK:\nOK. Good. Anything else?\nI:\nNO.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nNIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS PROJECT\nDOCUMENT CONTROL RECORD\nITEM REMOVED FROM THIS FILE FOLDER\nSANITIZED\nA RESTRICTED DOCUMENT OR CASE FILE HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM\nTHIS FILE FOLDER. FOR A DESCRIPTION OF THE ITEM REMOVED\nAND THE REASON FOR ITS REMOVAL, CONSULT DOCUMENT ENTRY\nNUMBER\n7\nON EITHER THE DOCUMENT WITHDRAWAL RECORD\n(GSA FORM 7292 OR NA FORM 1421) OR NARA WITHDRAWAL SHEET\n(GSA FORM 7122) LOCATED IN THE FRONT OF THIS FILE FOLDER.\nA sanitized copy substituted for an original item which\nContains information restricted under the Privacy Act.\nNATIONAL ARCHIVES AND RECORDS ADMINISTRATION\nNLN FORM 101 (revised 6-85)\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON (San Clemente)\nPresident/Kissinger\n10:06 p.m. - 7/19/74\nK:\nHello.\nP:\nHello, Henry.\nK:\nMr. President.\nP:\nApparently the battle is started, huh?\nK:\nYeh. They are apparently bombing Nicosia and firing on another town\nand we haven't had a Greek reaction yet. I've got Sisco going to Athens\nunder protest because he thinks it might be a little dangerous for him\nthere.\nP:\nOh.\nK:\nBut I figure if Tasca can stand it, he must be able to stand it.\nP:\nDangerous in the sense of anti-Americanism?\nK:\nYeh. That's all right, Mr. President, that's what they pay under-\nsecretaries for.\nP:\nGod almighty, that's what they pay us all for.\nK:\nThat's right.\nP:\nAnd with Tasca there I should think he could have some - if anybody\ncould have any influence with the people. Thank God he's there; he's\na tough guy.\nK:\nHe's a good fellow.\nP:\nWhat does he report?\nK:\nWe haven't had anything from Athens yet - not one word.\nP:\nYou think this is the kind of a thing that requires - that they feel\nmy presence in Washington that I have to get the hell back there for this\nthing?\nK:\nNot yet, but if the Greeks attack the Turks, Mr. President, then I think\nyou should go back to Washington. If it leads to a major war.\nP:\nYeh, and then what do we do there?\nK:\nNot much but I think.\nP:\nI have to be there.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n18- J\n2\nN:\nThat is all that matters is that you know we can do everything--\nI can do everything here that I could do in Washington.\nK: You remember we had the same problem when the Mid East war started\n--you were in Key Biscayne and we advised strongly not to move.\nN: In the Mid East we had basically interests that were -- well\nK: We didn't want to exacerbate the situation and there wasn't anything\nyou could do in Washington that you couldn't do inKey Biscayne--\nBut let's see how the Greeks react, Mr. President. There is still\na 10% chance that this thing will be settled by Monday.\nN: How?\nK: Well, if the Greeks accept Clerities as a solution and if they --and if\nthe Greeks and Turks then meet in London, I think we could get a ceasefire\nN: And you don't want to go to the UN because that'll get the Russians in it.\nK: Well we can go to the UN in a few hours--its the middle night.\nN: Oh, I know, I know.\nK: But it won't contribute much--we can do it tomorrow morning.\nN: Well as you know Henry, there is always a damn symbolism in the UN\n--you and I both know what a mine field it is, but I don't know.\nK: The UN is going to meet again tomorrow morning, Mr President. They\nmet on Cyprus today.\nN: Yep. Security Council\nK: Yeh. I think to call them in the middle of the night when neither of the\nparties involved--\nN No, no, no. That's the point, I just -- it is --\nK: I would wait until tomorrow morning on the UN\nN: Just 80 we can avoid the appaarance that we are not completely on top of it\nand I think we certainly are--now you are planning to go back tomorrow\nafternoon, W\nK\nVACLASSIFIED\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n18- K\n3\nK: That is right, Mr. President. That's night at there and that gives me a\nchance to get on top of it.\nN\nHell, you are on top of it here too.\nK: What I mean is I'll be travelling while people are sleeping out there--in\nthe Middle East\nN\nTrue, true.\nThank God it isn't Syria and Israel ar something like that--that'd be worse\nwouldn't it?\nK: Well before your term is over Mr. President, we'll have that privilege too.\nN: I hope not.\nK: I hope not, but I wouldn't lay odds on it.\nN: That depends on our Israeli friends to a great extent--we are going to keep\na very strong line there--anybody who gets arms from the US by golly to use\nit- - this of course is the Cyrpus thing--an\nK:\n25x(6)\nN:\nK:\nN\nK:\nN:\n25x(6)\nK\nN\nUNCLASSIFIED\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n4\nK: The Greeks have only about 9,000 men on the island and the Turks\nand the Turks have probably\nover about 3, 000or 4, 000, 2, 000\nseaborne and about 2, 000airborne, but the Turks are much better\nequipped and they can reinforce much faster.\nN: They can, huh.\nK: Yeh.\nN: So what would the Greeks do--I'm just trying to--\nK Well, the Greeks will either negotiate or they will attack the Turks in Thrace.\nN: Gosh.\nK: I don't exclude that they'll negotiate Mr. President. If Sisco hasn't lost\nhis nerve completely, I think they can be gotten to negotiate.\nN: God Sisco may lose his nerve, but Tasca won't. Don't underestima te what\nhe can do. He will put the arm on himnow,\nK: No, ,no, I have already gotten instruction to him, Mr. President.\nAnd he has -- he is already working.\nN: And they know too the penalty of failing to negotiateis they just rupture\ntheir situation with us--they break it right, don't they?\nK: That is right. First.\nN: That of course isn't much of an option for us\n.consider what it does to NATO\nK:\nN:\nK:\nSANITIZED\nN:\nK:\nN:\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nSecretary Kissinger\nSecretary Callahan (GB)\n10:15 p.m.\n7/19/72\nK:\nJim, how are you?\nC:\nHenry, good morning, if that is not a contradiction in terms. How\nare you again, all right?\nK:\nI'm doing fine.\nC:\nWell, now look, as far as Sisco is concerned, have you told him to go to\nAthens?\nK\nI've told him to go to Athens and under great protest he is on his\nway there.\nC:\nWhat is his objection to going, Henry?\nK:\nHis objection to going is that he thinks London is a more pleasant place\nand that Washington is even more pleasant.\nC:\nWell, Y eh, I think that is right. What is he going to do when he gets\nthere.\nK:\nThen when he gets there he is going to urge the Greeks to negotiate\nthat solution I discussed with you and to go accept any proposal you\nmay make for Greek Turkish talks.\nC:\nVery good. I think that he --I think we can talk a little more frankly now\nbecause I think are on a secure line.\nAren't we?\nK:\nNot that I can tell-\nyou\nC:\nAs far as I'm concerned I accept that assessment that/were good enough\nto send mefrom your Ambassador about conversation wi th Clerides.\nIt seems to me that Clerides is a very sensible man.\nK:\nThat is what it looks like to me.\nC:\nI think he has the thing summed up and as far as I'm concerned I wouldn't\nbe putting it in shorthand, I'd be willing to follow exactly that line and\nthe line that had been following before hand.\nK:\nThat was my impression and that's why when I got your letter, I had drafted\na long reply which has now been overtaken by events--\nC:\nI don't mind. put it in the scrapbook.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nPage 2\nK:\nDo you want me to send it?\nC:\nYeh, sure why not.\nK:\nI'll send it on, saying it is overtaken but for your scrapbook.\nBut I substantially agreed with it-- -\nC:\nI wanted to put my thoughts on paper to you, but they are not so different\nfrom the way Clerides apparently is looking at things.\nK:\nNo, I thought we were all coming together in the same direction.\nC:\nThat's right. I think if Joe Sisco can persuade them to get rid of Sampson\nand to constitutionally get Clerides installed, then we've got the makings\nof a package to deal with the Turks, haven't we?\nK:\nThat is exactly my view.\nC:\nRight. And I've got the Turkish ambassador waiting outside to see me\nnow--I thought I would send a strong note through him to the Turkish\ngovernment, calling on them to bring about the earliest possible ceaseifre\nto get the Greeks and Turks here\nK:\nI agree with that completely- I was going to make that strong suggestion\nto you--you'll have too messy a situation on the island--much to messy\nC:\nYes, all right. Then I'll try to get them to come here and Joe Sisco\ncan pressurize the Greeks to come here\nK:\nThose ok are Joe Sisco's instruttions.\nC:\nVery good - -\nK:\nSo may I tell Joe that you are fully backing him--\nC:\nThat we are on the same line\nK:\nI will tell Joe this and I will tell him that you are--your people are going\nto talk in the same sense.\nC:\nVery good. Very good.\nK:\nAnd you should know that we have--\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nPage 3\nC:\nWhat about the Soviet Union, Henry\nK:\nShould we tell them that we understand that you are going to task for\ntalks - that we strongly support it and that we hope they encourage it\nC:\nThat's a good line.\nK:\nWell, we will do that within thenext hour\nC:\nHaw much detail you've had more dealings with them than I've had.\nHow much detail should I go into?\nK:\nI wouldn't go into endless details, but I would tell him that we are\nC:\nI missed you then- say it again\nK:\nTo whom to the Soviets?\nC:\nYeh\nK:\nI wouldn't go into all the details I would tell them that- I would go into\ndetail about the negotiating process, not about the solution.\nC:\nVery good.\nK:\nOtherwise they will hang behind another fellow and just thwart it.\nC:\nThis line is very bad--you keep disappearing completely\nK:\nI would give them the solution-- I would give them the process\nC:\nRight, okay\nK:\nAnd we will do the same\nC:\nVery good\nK:\nAnd I also wanted you to know that I have told the Turks ixfx substantially\nwhat you are going to tell them that we object to what they are doing and\nthey must get into talks immediately\nC:\nYes, very goodthen- I should think after Sisco's persuaded them to go to\ncome to Lond, he'd better come on to London too, hadn't he\nK:\nAh ahha I think London he will want to go to. London, I won't have\ntrouble persuading- Athens he is a little shakey about.\nC:\nOkay, Henry, we'll keep in touch what time is with you/\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nPage 4\nK:\nI'm all right, it is 10:30,\nC:\nI don't want to wake you up during the night, do I, unbess I've got to.\nK:\nWell you should get even with me, since I woke you up at 4:30\nC:\n[laughs] All right, Henry, I'll ring you if necessary\nK:\nJim, you call me anytime.\nC:\nI'll call you anytime. Very good then, Thank you.\nK: Bye.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nSecretary Kissinger\nDSec Ingersol\n7/19/74 10:30 p.m.\nK:\nBob, I've just talked to Callaghan- they completely support our program\nnow and they will make representations in that sense.\nI:\nVery good.\nK:\nI mean they support Clerides and they will urge negotiations. Tell that\nto Sisco--tell Sisco his major job is to get the Greeks and Turks\nto London.\nI:\nFine.\nK:\nAnd calm down--and you do you calm down Sisco, I don't know, but\nthat is your job. I mean can we send him a cable I sent him an\nencouraging cable. - did that ever go to him?\nI:\nNo, that is the one we didn't send because we had already sent another one.\nK:\nWhat do you mean?\nI:\nRembmber this afternoon we decided that we wouldn't send that one because\nwe already sent one--\nK:\nI sent him a cable telling him he had done a good job--could that have gone?\nI:\nNo, it was the first paragraph of your cabl e--\nK:\nI sent him a three line telegram, saying he had done a good job that wasn't\nsent?\nI:\nI didn't see it--I don't know\nK:\nAh-- he --it went through a WH channel\nNow, can somebody send him a cable and tell him we need his special skills\nand tired as he is, we want him to make one more effort and it is to get\nthe Greeks and Turks to London--the British are fully aboard now, fully\nfollowing the line we worked out? they no longer want Makarios, they\nare going along with the Clerides thing and he has the support of Callahan too.\nAnd to be steady and firm and we are sending Dr. Nidel out with pills.\nI:\nAll right, get it off right away--\nK:\nRight Okay and you might tell Macomber where we stand with Callagan and\ntell him to keep the heat on the Turks to accept an offer to go -- to talk\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nPage 2\nK:\nWe've got to think of UN action tomorrow--okay?\nI:\nFine\nK:\nThank you.\nI:\nRight.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nDirector Colby\nSecretary Kissinger\n7/19/74 10:35 p.m.\nK:\ndivisions!\nAre they walking across water?\nC:\nNo, they've got about a division afloat and the rest will come in tomorrow\nK:\nBut have they got anough equipment for a division?\nC\nOh yeh, they are landing on the north coast, they've landed at Nicosia\nby airborne and there is a force moving down towards Famagusta\nthat we haven't heardfrom\nK:\nOf course- Colby, mayI tell you something?\nC:\nYeh\nK:\nI don't know where the hell Samagusta is--and may I tell you something\nelse?\nC:\nWhat\nK:\nI could not care less--will somebody bring me a map--just because\nyou drop names on me doesn't mean you are a bright guy--\nC:\n[laughs]\nK:\nYou probably got a map right in front of you--is it Famagusta?\nC:\nYeh it is on the east--\nK:\nI've got it right in fromt of me. You mean it is moving overland?\nAre they going to take the whole island?\nC:\nNo, they are going to land probably--they have landed at Kyrenia on the\nnorth coast and they have landed some paratroops at Nicosia.\nK:\nWhy?\nC:\nBecause it is the capitol and because there is nothing but Turkish population\nbetween them and Kyrènia up to the north, so they can link up easily.\nDECLASSIFIED\nE.O. 13526, Section 3.5\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library By mH PeR. PAC 4/14/11\nNARA, Date 4/5/19\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nPAge 2\nK:\nDo you think they'll take Ncosia?\nn\nC:\nYeh, well there will be some fighting there. But you see what they\ncan do is land there and land at the airport link up with the people\ncoming in from the sea from the north and then they fight alot of\nNational Guard in that area--a serious fight will probably develop there.\nThen they also have a separate landing over Famagusta on the east coast\nand perhaps one down at Lynica down on the southeast coast. The object\nwould be then to try to establish themselves in 3 or 4 places and perhaps\neven link up but that is a little less sure and then have a basis for\nnegotiation. The problem is the Greeks can only defent in that area--\nthey can't really get much force over there from the mainland because\nmost of the Greek forces are up in the north around Salanica and Thrace.\nK:\nYou mean they can only defend with what they've got on the island?\nC:\nWith the National Guard on the island - that is about 30, 000 troops,\nwhich is a lot of troops.\nK:\nThey've got 30, 000 NG I thought only 9, 000\nC:\nNo excuse me- 9, 000 plus the mobilizationof about 30, 000\nK:\nBut they won't be able to mobilize them\nC:\nThat's not so sure. They've got a pretty active mobilization idea there.\nBut then you've got the Makarios problem going and the West wing and\nthere is already a development of some forces going in to the mountains\nwith the idea of carrying on a resistance in favor of Makarios.\nK\nYou mean before this?\nC:\nThat was earlier today\nK:\nThat was\nto fight Sampson?\nC:\nThat was to fight Sampson, but at this point they wuld probably stay out\nof the fight because these are Turks who are coming in.\nK:\nI'm assuming Sampson is a dead duck.\nC:\nHe'll fight hard and the NG will probably fight with him because these\nare the extreme Greeks. These guys will fight pretty hard against\nthe Turks.\nK:\nCould he it wind up with double enosis?\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nPage 3\nC:\nIt can wind up with the Turks pretty well ensconsed on the isle with some\nforces and establishing themselves and on the on part of the island.\nSo that they cannot be dislodged but not owning the owhole island and there-\nfore the basis for a discussion and some diplomacy as to whether it ends\nup with double enosis or not. I think that\nK:\nIs there any sense in pushing for the Clerides solution\nC:\nThe Turks now think--that they want double enosis.\nK:\nSo we shouldn't push for -- what we told Sisco was to try out the Clerides\nsolution in Athens just to get them to get rid of Sampson\nC:\nWell, that is still a possibility- -\nBut the other possibility is for you to take Makarios back there\nK:\nHow will I take him back there- 1\nC:\nBy plane\nK:\nYou mean me going with him?\nC:\nYeh.\nK:\nColby I K now you didn't like me why should you be the only member of\nthe National Security Council not having a feud with me\nC:\nNo my point being that - the only problem in my particular plan is who\nwould be the Greek you would pick up with you because you'd need a Greek\nK:\nLike who?\nC:\nThat I don't know\nK:\nHow about Ioaniddes?\nC:\nPardon?\nK:\nUnides Uniedes?\nC:\nNo, you would need some other Greek from the mainland.\nIf Makarios goes back then Ioaniddes is discredited but you cannot\nhumiliate the Greeks and therefore some Greeks have to have a part\nof this and it has to be a Greek solution which is one acceptable to the\nTurks which all they really don't want is enosis on the Greek side.\nK:\nOkay, we have until Monday to think about that one\nC:\nYeh, that one ybu can think about a while meanwhile I think the Turks\nwill establish themselves and have a pesition from which they will want to barg\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nPage 4\nK:\nFor what?\nC:\nThe main problem is to keep the Greeks from wan starting a fight any\nwhere else.\nK:\nYEh. Okay. Many thanks.\nC:\nno movement on the oviet side at all that we have detected.\nS\nK:\nRight\nC:\nNo fleets or anything else particularly although we are a little behind\nthe time curve on that\nK:\nI think they've been too busy monitoring Joe Sisco phone calls.\nC:\n@aught] Well they do have an intelligence ship down there and I'm\nsure they are listening very hard.\nK:\nOkay, Bill. Many thanks. Don't float that idea of my going out there\ntoo actively , will you.\nK:\nC:\nI won't say that to anybody but you,/because my wife might come\nafter you!\nC:\nI just think the idea is to give you ideas and then you'll come out with better\nones--\nK:\nOkay- - Thank you.\nC:\nBye.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified."
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