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Amb. Dobrynin/Kissinger 9:10 a. m. 5/11/71 -6- D: I could tell you from this tée gram that answer to what youx proposed is still not approved. This telegram is the second from Gromyko. He emphatically denies it here. K: What's going to happen -- if we don't straighten this out we will be forced to give a formal answer in Vienna and it will be total confusion. D: Smith is confused and trying to present a case he didn't know. K: A case he didn't advocate before. He had other ideas before. D: Safeguards against Moscow. K: The he wouldn't get if Semonov D: Everything you mentioned was his interpretation. K: Semonov made those points on the boat. D: He has his instructions. I don't know whether -- I don't know. Semonov has to follow instructions or he will loose his job. When he denieis it I am sure Semonov will not on a second time report the same story. What he X could do if they discussed in detail , he will see how Smith will react and then report back to Moscow. What's important and you should ask Smith was there an official proposal? K: No text. I will get his memo. D. It would be helpful to me. K: I will have it by the end of the day. D: A brief summary. K: I have to tell you that the -- your formal position I understand but the fact is that Smith believes sincerely and since he doesn't know I ever discussed it and he has had different ones -- D: I can now finish this telegram. Semonov said he discussed only what was discussed before. He emphasized that he was on previous position which I gave to you before and that freezing would be settled after ABM You check it. Semonov said simultaneiously or before. K: I can tell you that really there's a hell of a strange feeling. We find it strange that there should be an answer as far down as Gartov. (cont. )

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