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TELECON
Mr. Kissinger/Ambassador Dobrynin
6:35 p. m. July 30, 1971
K:
Anatoliy, how are you. I have a number of items which I
want to take up with you. (1) Our Ambassador deduced from his
conversation with your Foreign Minister that your Foreign Minister
was eager for a channel between the President and your Chairman
Brezhnev. At any rate we don't want to use a channel through Beam,
but through the established channel. He got the impression that
Gromyko was hinting that Brezhnev wanted some indication from
the President on policy views.
D:
Brezhney knows everything I am doing, SO it's not quite
clear.
K:
Let me find it. I will read my cable to you since you read
my cables anyway. [read Smith's cable].
D:
It means that he mentioned in passing the importance of.
.
K:
It seems significant that Brezhnev asked the President to
be informed. I don't care much as long as you understand it.
D:
I know perfectly well. It means simply they want to emphasize
that Brezhnev is really the number one man from this point of view.
K:
We wanted to say we will not reply in that channel. We are
assuming you understand that what I say to you comes from the
President and that any suggestions/directly concerning the President
are more efficient to discuss in your channel.
D:
I am sure 100 per cent.
K:
I am sure, too, but on the off-chance, we want you to understand.
D:
It is my impression that, in passing, Gromyko wanted to
emphasize it is a good idea that they communicate person to person.
K:
If you think it's a good idea. We have no problem with writing
a letter to Mr. Brezhney on some occasion.
D:
I think it's a good idea.
K:
Do you?
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