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Amb. Dobrynin/Mr. Kissinger 8 6:05 p.m., July 16, 1973 D: But if we will have this agreement with you on the basis of letter we initialled, SO we have no trouble. We will just put you under your control this sum we agree we'll ask you to do and we will not ask any more. So I think it fits rather nicely. Before you were complaining well, not you exactly but you too to a certain extent but mostly it was Mr. Butz -- the trouble with us, the Soviets, is that we are, and that was and is true, that we never said what we are going to buy next year. So this time we ought to try to be on a playing side to make it clear how K: But you know it is rather difficult for us under conditions where many other countries are screaming to announce a long-term agreement with you. D: So maybe you may announce it a little bit later by saying in a sense that now you will know how much It first of all shows that we are going to buy on a [ low ? ] class scale because this decision of 5 million really would make as I was told by Brezhnev in order to -- sometimes he will not need them at all but better to keep it, not to make it, in case when we really don't need it SO we could just keep our storage and then to balance SO to speak. So if this is an attempt to, first, to make it on a more -- K: No, no, I understand why you are doing this. D: So it's not necessary really this year to have it but we decide to buy it each year on a rather limited level. K: No, no. Anatol, I have learned one thing. D: Yeah. K: Maybe we can occasionally win 40% with you on political things. On agricultural things, we are lucky if we gain 10%. D: Ut-ut-oh. K: You have convinced me last year that in agricultural trading, you are geniuses. D: (laughter) No, no, I did not discuss anything. But, Henry, really -- K: But whoever did the trade deal last year should get some sort of decoration. D: Yes. Well, it's probably those who deal -- people who deal in foreign trade How it will affect -- Because Brezhnev will look about the agreement

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