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6:05 m., July 16, 1973
K:
Anatol, it will make it easier to announce the agreement.
D:
By the end, as you mentioned
K:
By the end of July. Because then we don't have to answer the question:
Why we make a long-term agreement with you when we are not when
we are facing shortages.
D:
I understand this point with you. Well, of course there are several aspects
of this one. So I am sure that if you will say the same under the control
system, there will be no objection from our side either. I'm sure about
it.
Because they will think now it's controlled, each government, and receive
according to your purchases so we will have our share within limit of
5 million so it's controlled under 5 million.
K:
But I would have thought, Anatol, you want to preserve the [free] market.
D:
Well, we --
K:
Consistent with your
D:
But my impression is that you're not SO sure that it's a good one.
(laughter) So you're trying to control it and already in the Phase IV, if
I'm not mistaken, if I'm understand mathmatics, SO if you go to the
4th, SO why not to do it? But this particular in IV, you're concerned
only with agriculture business or in general?
K:
In general.
D:
And this with agricultural will be one of the items?
K:
Exactly.
D:
Defending the position of the Administration that you're not going to
have a control on this, yes?
K:
We would prefer not to havea control on it.
D:
This will be your explanation of the rightness of the position, yes?
K:
Exactly.
D:
Well, all right, I will check. Maybe by Wednesday, you say, yes, I will
try to get this answer.
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