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Mr. Kissinger/Mr. Yoshida 1:00 a. m. , November 24, 1970 - 2 - Y: Yes. K: That is, 3%. Y: 3%? K: Yes. Y: Within the group? K: Yes. You know, I can't be absolutely sure, but I think there would be a chance. Y : Fine, fine. I think we're much better to stick to our original conversation which is the official stance now approved by my friend with his two top aides. As I told you, I am absolutely certain and correct in saying this. So, if we could stick to the last conversation I had with you, our original official proposal of six groups over 17 items and if you could give us 3% of shift within a group. K: Well, I will do my best. I can't guarantee it, but at least, they didn't reject it completely. I proposed it today on the basis of our conversation Y : That's right. K: recognizing your friend's particular problem and, of course, our people are extremely reluctant, but I think we can. I'm giving you my impression that if you accept six groups and 17 categories, and one of the other three is an essential. I don't know which it is. Y: I beg your pardon -- what, K: Of the remaining three categories, we must have one under some formula. I don't know which of the three. Y: I see, but one item. K: Yes. Y: So that will be 18 items. K: Yes.

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