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    "ocrText": "10\nK:\nWell, I phoned him before I did it and he didn't raise an objection.\nP:\nWell, I wish there was some more we could do here but.\nThey'll run out of gas - both sides - won't they in about two weeks.\nK:\nYes, but of course, another thing we have done is to send a back-\nchannel to the Shah from you saying that, trying to find out whether\nhe wanted to give some support to Pakistan and saying if he did\nwe would look to see whether we could find a way of letting, of\nreplacing his\nP:\nAre you sure that backchannel is safe?\nK:\nYes.\nP:\nI wouldn't do it through MacArthur.\nK:\nNo, no, that's why I didn't do it that way and we didn't put it as a\nmessage. We put it as talking points so it can be disallowed.\nP:\nGood, well we'll have some fun with this yet. God, you know what\nwould really be poetic justice here is if some way the Paks could\nreally give the Indians a bloody nose for a couple of days. The\nfighting, any report on that?\nK:\nWell, the fighting - we got reports in East Pakistan that the Indians\nare surprised at the intensity of the Pakistan resistance. But of\ncourse they outnumber them there eight to one.\nP:\nHow about West Pakistan?\nK:\nIn West Pakistan the Indians don't seem to have gotten very far.\nAnd there I think they're not going to be able to win except by wearing\nthem down. They outnumber them there five to one. They've been\nbombing Karachi and burning the oil installations.\nP:\nIsn't that awful. That terrible. The Indians are bombing Karachi?\nK:\nYes.\nP:\nOh, for Christ's sake, isn't that.\nand Rawalpindi I notice is on\nthe list, too.\nK:\nYes. Well, of course, they've been playing a terrific game these\nlast years. Every time one tank was shipped to Pakistan the Indians\nwould carry on like maniacs, but they've been getting big shipments\nfrom India, they've been getting big shipments from India, rather\ntheir own armaments industry."
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