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Y-15 Telecon The President 9/17/70 9:45 a. m. K: I wanted to mention a piece of information connected with Vietnam. The Viet Cong made a proposal P: I just called Bill and told him you and I had talked. His point is well taken too--at the present time we want our moves to be open but we don't want Jordan to look like a puppet. I am not too xk sure on that; I'm more interested in the effect on the Russians than on Iraq and Syria. K: The aircraft carrier Guam was supposed to leave Friday morning, but instead we are moving it out Thursday night. P: From where? K: Norfolk. P: Let's get them out. If we are going in for a strike it is not going to be for nothing. We've got enough 52s with bombs in Europe, don't we? K: No, but we can get them over. P: Okay. I don't see this as just an exercise. If we hit we hit with everything we've got. I want a plan available so it's a massive strike-- it's mainly psychological. Okay, go ahead with Paris. K: One other thing in connection with the Middle East first. Moorer says we could get a third carrier in within a week. It would be a strong move. P: Put it in. We're going there; I want to see a formidable display out there anyway. K: Okay. About Vietnam, the Viet Cong have made some proposals today that are still not in acceptable form to us but do conform to what they saidto me. If we were to promise withdrawal by June 30, they say they would stop military action against them. a sort of half-baked cease-fire proposal; it means they would give up their 6-month deadline. Also they are notssaying they will deal with any Saigon government that doesn't include Thieu, Ky and Thiem. We still have the problem that you identified but before they said they wouldn't negotiate with anybody. They just may not be able to make a proposal we can accept.

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