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Mr. Kissinger
Secy Sisco
5th
10:30 m.,
9-8-70
S:
Henry, we have just received a telegram from Moscow which you
probably will have received in San Clemente by now. I am having
a check run. Let me read it to you because it is a note - an oral
type thing. (Sisco read the message).
S:
The Soviet Government expects that the Government of USA will
undertake the steps to prevent Israel from taking the steps they
are planning. Our man in Moscow believes we should come back
urgently with action he recommends.
K: Thing is not true, of course.
S:
We have talked about this here and think it affords us an opportunity
to do the following. Vorontsov just asked to see me urgently and
he is meeting with me at 2:30 pm today. At the meeting I will just
say thank you very much and receive the message. I will take
two steps. We ought to tell the Israelis that this note has been
received and, of course, we wish to repeat to them what we
really said the other day that we assume that there is not going
to be any unilateral action on their part and how serious this
would be. The second phase would be to go back to the Russians
and say we have taken action in this regard but we want to say to
you that you have a responsibility and we have then put them in a
position of getting these things out of here and then to conclude
by saying once these missiles have been removed, you, the
Russians will no longer have any worry about this. I would
like to proceed this way. This raises the question of the letter
you have.
K: The Secretary does not wish to send it. And I am not prepared
to overrule him.
S:
Then we can proceed in this way which will achieve the same
thing but it gives us the opportunity to (K interrupted here).
K: Let me tell you my reaction. I would not give color to the fact
that we have taken appropriate measures. That gives them a shot
at the Arabs. All we need to do is tell Rabin that we have had this
communication and I would not make any new views. I would not
go back to the Russians today and then today I would go back with
essentially what you have done here.
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Without claiming the credit.
K: That would be my recommendation.
S: Okay, that makes sense. I will proceed with that.
K: Good.
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Secretary Rogers/Mr. Kissinger
September 9, 1970 4:25 p.m.
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R: Henry
K: Yes Bill.
R: I was calling on another subject, not the Middle East this time,
only peripherally. Do we have a date for Mrs. Meir to see the
President yet?
K: I think it is the 18th.
R: He talked to me a couple of times on the plane. He said we should
see her together. Then there is no difference between us. Do we have
a time of day?
K: My guess is in the afternoon. I can get it for you quickly.
R: No, there is no need. I will be over there in a little while.
I will get it then.
K: OK
R: See you in a little while.
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Mr. Kissinger
Ambassador Rabin
9/10/70; 7:20 p.m.
R: How are you?
K: Okay. You called me?
R: I talked to Haig about the problem of when we can let the public know
there would be a meeting.
K: Can I confirm it to you tomorrow morning. I think you can do it almost
anytime. I have not been able to get to Haldeman who handles these things.
I will have an answer to you by 9:30 tomorrow morning.
R: There are some preparations that have to be made.
K: You can be certain there are no problems. It is a pure courtesy problem
at this point -- having President mentioned without his specific approval. I
can assure you there is no possibility of a hitch.
R: I thought it would be helpful if I could have an informal talk with you
about some of your views prior to the visit. Whenever it is possible -- the
sooner, the better.
K: Let me see what my schedule is for the next few days and then we can
get together.
R: The sooner I will be able to give them something, the better it will be
for them.
K: I have to find some government that takes me seriously. (Laughter)
I will get together with you and give you my views.
R: I think I would like to tell you in an informal way what we have in mind.
K: That I take it is for me, or to be passed on? Let's discuss that. You
mean to be kept in this building?
R: I would not talk to anybody else.
K: I will try to do it on Saturday or tomorrow late in the afternoon.
R: The sooner, the better.
K: I had planned to go to New York but I don't think I can do that tomorrow.
If I don't, we can talk tomorrow.
R: You will let me know on the other.
K: Let's say by 10:00 a. m.
feg
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9/11/70 11:30 a.m.
D: I have just talked with Vine in Berne who said they will
make the five-power declaration in a matter of minutes in behalf
of the five countries concerned. The Swiss are extremely grate-
ful to the President and have no problem with the White House
statement supporting their statement.
K: We may change a few words. Does that bother you?
D: No, no problem with that.
K: Okay, thank you.
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September 1970 5:15 p.m.
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K: Hi Bill
R: Hi Henry. I was returning your call.
K: I was just checking with you. The President has mentioned a few
times that cable.
R: Well,
Arabs not planning military action but just warning them.
It is drafted but does not sound right. We must think what message we
are trying to convey.
K: I don't want to fall on my sword. There are a couple of arguments
for this.
moderate Arabs to go back to the guerrillas and say that
if behave badly that
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XXX, two principla
arguments for it.
and if, believes movement of Fleet would
contribute. I recognize that both of these arguments could be turned
around.
R: Well, when we thought about it
Movement of ships
prevented from having passengers
Continued to XXX say that
we would not do anything
Arabists in our shop say that when
you are dealing with these highly emotional people if you use threats
it is counterproductive. The Fedayeen - Syria-Iraq have done all they
can coxxex to come out against PFLP. You think that is generally what
they will do to pick off the passengers. That Red Cross fellow I think
is danngood.
K: It's an operational question.
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R: We did talk to the Ambassadors. The Arab Ambassadors are MMXg
Kehak behaving pretty well.
Other Africans, even Syria are being good. There is a big question
whether we should say to them this is what we are going to do so get
a move on.
No, only
K: No! /If any passengers are harmed.
R: Any way your phrase it. We do not really hold you responsible
but if anything happens
Jordanians have surrounded the PFLP
WASX
I just wonder
and let's think about it. We can decide tomorrow. We still have time.
They have released a few passengers.
XXXXXXX Do you have a guess
as to how it will be played from now on?
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K: You know the deadline has been turned off.
R: Has it? You get a cable saying it is off and a half hour later
you find out it is back on.
K: Deadline is still on? ?
R: Hold up. Can always decide to do this. I don't think the Arabs
have any doubt that we are serious. We can decide later tonight if
it is necessary or in the morning.
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K: They have blown up the planes but without the passengers. The passen-
gers and crew xndxx are in hotels in Amman. That removes some of the
danger. They will have to kell them individually if they are stretched out.
P: They blew up the planes to prove themselves. To prove that they
would have done it if we attacked them.
K: x$xx 60 have left andthe remainder are in Amman. They haven't
formulated any precise plans yet. State didn't want that cable and I
didn't insist.
P: I don't suppose it's that big.
K: It's a question of whether one --
P: What did Sisco think?
K: He was for it but others were against it. Frankly I didn't think you
should insist on it. **** As it is the Arab (?) governments are in behind
the scenes and are opposed if they say they are. If they are it would have
given them something to work with. It's a tactical decision. I have been
very loose about it and have not pressed anybody.
P: Nothing we can do now. If the passengers are out.
K: It might have
it up. The big problem today is Chile.
P: Their stock market went to hell.
K: I had a call last night from McCone and Kendall this morning. McEone
thinks it would be a catastrophe if we let it go. Latin American Bureau
at State is against doing anything. Korry has stopped all appointments
unless they come to him.
P: Did I see those instructions? I want to see them.
K: They came over here and one of my staff members agreed to it.
9: I am following it and I want a personal note to State that I want to see
all cables to Chile.
K: Maybe I should send a back channel to Korry saying you are interested
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P: By all means. I want an appraisal of what the options are. The options
are having another run-off election.
K:
sent someone down for a first hadd look to give their
appraisal.
P: Does State want to give them aid?
K: Let Alicande come in and see what we can work out and work out
opposition to him.
P: Like against Castro? Like in Czech. ? The same people said the same
thing. Don't let them do that. Meyer knows better. Tell Kendall to call
Meyer.
K: I did and he is beside himself. Augustine Edwards has escaped and is
coming here Monday. I am going to meet with him on Monday for his feel
of the situation.
P: We don't want a big story leaking out that we are trying to overthrow
the Govt. We want his judgement on the possibility of a run-off election.
K: I will do that. That's essential.
P: It's going to hell so fast. Their stock market is down 50%.
K: Korry sent in a cable today that said while you meet in committees
P: Korry may have wanted to put us on the spot. He is a Kennedy Democra
Get a backehannle to him right away.
K: Exactly. We will have a meeting on Mon. The British Ambassador
called this morning and said he feels he must greet you at Chequers.
I know your preference but I said I would check with you and get back
to him.
P: Lunch there? We will do it.
K: I will call Freeman.
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The President/Mr. Kissinger
September 12, 1970 6:15 p.m. jlj
K: Mr. President
P: Hi Henry, What anything new?
K: I just wanted to bring you up todate. All the passengers were off
the plane when they blew it up.
P: I got this word earlier.
K: They are holding 40 hostages. 23 with dual citizenship, 6 Swiss,
6 German and 5 British.
P: They are holding the Israelis? Does this include any Americans?
Not that it makes any difference. It is still the same thing. Are there
people that do claim American citizenship? What about the action
on the other side? - In terms of making a deal? What do they
want for the hostages?
K: They are demanding that the Swiss release 3 fedayeen, the British
the woman, the Germans 3 fedayeen.
P: And from the Israelis?
K: The 23. The 23 in return for an unspecified number of fedayeen.
I doubt that the Israelis will agree. Pressure is not so bad on us.
P: No Americans?
Some
K: /Claim that they have dual citizenship. If they have an American
finghting in the Israeli army we would have a tough case. Nationalized
We are now trying to determine [citizenship questions].
P: What position are we taking? Problem for Israel XXX to work out.
K: Ideal would be
not releasing prisoners
Germans
have caved in. Swiss are willing to hold out.
P: What are the British going to do?
K: Probably will cave. Germans are
Brandt sent someone
independently to Amman. He is very weak
P: Well, released all the Americans. Do you think the sixth fleet
had anything to do with this.
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K: Definitely I 'o. In terms of time. The Six Fleet began to move - first
they were hyste cal and then they started releasing prisoners.
P: I still feel that we have ready the contingency plans to go in there.
support the King. He is not prepared to do anything. I think it is
best for us to go in to support the King.
K: There are quite a few people who do not think it is a good idea. Only
for evacuation purposes would be best for us to go in. Sisco fedx feels
that the King would not stand XXXX after we left if we went in and then
pulled out.
P: Israel go in?
K: Yes. Israelis go in. If there is a war
P: I guess it is pretty much up to the Israelis now.
K: If it comes out this way.
P: What do we say or do if anything about these XMXXXX planes being
blown up?
K: We should get a plan started to start boycotting countries where planes
are taken.
P: Of course, in the future
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encourage King to move against Fedayeen
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P: Is he doing that? We want to do that. I am not concerned about the
long occupation.
I still think it is better for us to go in
and support the King.
K: It would strap us militarily. Use XXXXXX all our available military
reserve. The JCS is not anxious to do this.
P: Well, that is all right. Evacuation is nothing.
K: This is not the problem anyway.
P: Problem is how we handle the Fedayeen. We cannot just let them go.
Do we have anything to do about the Fedayeen.
K: We can urge Hussain to move against Fedayeen and we would militarily
support it - with air support.
P: That is what I want to do. If the Israelis did it the ceasefire would go
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out the window. [Talking about the psychologica. impact. People thought
Israelis bad after 6 day war and now the Israelis were beginning to get
sympathy again because of the Egyptian/Soviet violations of the ceasefire.
Now people are siding with Israeli and are sympathtic to them. ]
Now feel that the Arabs are bad - if the
Israelis went in the issue would become very confused.
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K: Ideal would be if the King could clean up the Fedayeen
P:
K: We have a brigade in Europe that we have put on maneuvers. XXXXXX
XNX the 82nd from the US to follow behind it.
P: Do not know what the Israelis are going to do?
K: Most of the Americans out. Otherwise it is between
problem ** for Fedayeen because Israeli may move. Ideal for them
would have been
P: I am surprised. What does Sisco think it had to do with it? (Sixth Fleet
move) Haig?
K: General Haig reached the exact same conclusion I did quite independently
- that the sixth fleet K had a tremendous impact on the releasing of prisoner:
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K: Incidentally, that speech played bery well in all the Eastern
pepers.
P: Oh really. Good.
K: That wasn't what I was calling you about. During the night
Jordan blew. The King moved troops into Amman; he has taken the
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seeme to be gaining the upper hand.
During the night I talked at length to Bob. We are saying you were
wakened and informed of the situation but in light of the fact that
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there is nothing you could do we/thought it best not to waken you.
P: That's okay. I knew the King was planning it. We already had
signed the paper.
K: Right. I talked to Bill, Sisco, Moorer and Packard--everyone
is aboard. They all recognize that it is a crisis,
P: A crisis that's good.
K: If the King wins, the peace offensive has a real chance.
P: We've got to help him. How about the fleet?
K: It's up there. One thing, everyone agreed you must not come
back. sEx It would create a crisis atmosphere. We moved the second
carrier into the Mediterranean. We've got almost the entire Sixth
Flexe Fleet near Cyprus now. There's another force with helicopter
capability on the Guam. It was going to go to the Mediterranean any-
way and we are moving ******* into that area.
P: But this becomes necessary only if the Iraniabs Inagis or Syrians move?
K: Exactly.
P: If they move, my strong feeling at this time is that we should
use American air and knock the bejesus out of them
K: That's our feeling.
P: It would be a show of strength/ on our part.
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K: Well, there are strong arguments on both sides but nothing on
that will happen till you are back.
P: The fact that the Israelis move
has other effects. I think
a move on our part shows guts, having to do with these jüjackers also
I think the U.S. ought to do something if it's air. If it requires men that's
another thing.
K What we have done in this regard, we are acquiring the targets--
getting information for these air strikes and feeding them to the
as fast as we can, We've got to know where to hit.
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ersec
P: The King's move is a result of our encouraging him, is it not?
That's the thing I'm thinking about. He ought to be backed up.
K: We sent out a cable to that effect last night. We think the cable
we put out Monday stiffened his back, the one saying we can't tolerate
the taking of American hostages. We also authorized the Ambassador
to tell the King that if he needs material support we will give it very
sympathetic consideration.
P: Where are the hostages?
K: We don't know. So they are in danger. I have talked to the
British--they are prepared to put out a five-power statement which
is in effect the same thing as you said on Monday, that we hold the
guerrillas responsible for the safety of the hostages.
P: Yes, can³t I say that now?
K: Yes, Ziegler can.
P: That we will hold the guerrillas responsible and have him quote
the President directly.
K: Right. We also have a package of what we think the King needs.
P: On this one I am sure you are going to find Sisco would be all
aboard and Bill will be because it's the only chance for his peace offensive.
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9/17/70 9:00 a.m. page 3
K: Exactly. If it fails the cease-fire and the peaee offensive are
dead.
P: It would be worse than before we started; the Fedayeen would
have the upper hand.
K: It would push Nasser in a redieced radical direction and would
push the Soviets that way and would make the Israelis unwilling to
accept promises.
P: I want you to push through the bureaucracy my feelings, having
a landing team ready for evacuation. As far as their going in and
fighting, that's another thing. This would get the Russians in, but
that's another side of it. This will show whether we have any stake at all
left in the Mediterranean.
K: I have talked to Alex and Bill. Bill is all on board on doing the
maximum possible to strengthen the King. On the Israeli versus U.S.
question I haven't talked to him in detail I will get a reading on that.
P: I think U.S. air has a lot to say for itself. It would be good in
the event they still have the hostages
K: I think it would be a good idea if we told the Shah and gave him
our approach. That would bring him into it and he could put troops on
the Iraqi border.
P: And we will back him.
K: Right. These are the measures we have taken. We will meet
again at 3:00. It was a worse situation last week. Then everything was
festering and we couldn't get a handle.
P: What this is is a civil war in Jordan with Iraq and Syria in on it.
How about your calling Vorontsov and saying "lay off boys. "
K: I think we should be enigmatic and say nothing. They will pick
this up.
P: Okay, this will worry them. But we want the Sixth Fleet stuff in
the open.
K: They'll catch it.
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9/17/70 9:00 a.m. page X 4
P: I want them to know we're moving. I want everything that can
be done to be done in the open. The wear and tear on the nerves
between the Syrians and Iraqis is very important.
K: We can move it 12 hours early and get it picked up.
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Mr. Haldeman/Mr. Kissinger
September 17, 1970 9:35 a.m.
jlj
K: I have been with the President and everything seems to be OK. I
have had a good talk with Bill and no problems. He knows that [we have
to be strong. ] XX I think it is a good break if we do it in a tough manly
way. Of course, if we fall on our face but we won't because we won't
let it fail,
R: How is the President tracking on this? Is he all right?
K: The President is in good shape. He talked about the course he
mentioned yesterday morning. I think he is softening though. After he
has heard everybody[I think things will be fine. ] I am having full plans
made to implement it if he orders it - we can do it.
H: You know he is going to that newspaper at 11 o'clock.
K: That should be very low key.
H: Did you tell him that?
K: No, but I have a call in to him and I will. The Viet Cong have made
a new peace proposal. It is still not acceptable but they are softening.
H:
move.
K: I am delighted with it. If we can do it and we will do it.
H: Bill is along with you on it? No problem there?
K: He is dead without it.
H: But you do not know if he knows that.
K: No, he knows. He does not want to be out in XXXXX front on this.
[ He knows that we have to be firm on this. He knows if the King falls then
this will be the biggest
in diplomatic history. ] In fact he is
urging us on. If it fails - no worse than before. But it cannot fail. We
will not let it fail.
H: Will you need the President today?
K: Just make damn sure I can get to him on the telephone wherever he is.
You probably do that anyway but will you double check? We have a 3 p.m.
meeting this afternoon.
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H: He is free at 12 o'clock, 1-2 our time he is tied up, 2 until 5 is
clear,
K: I have a call in to the President now. He was in the shower. Can
you make sure with Coffee that he will get back to me?
H: Yes, fine.
K: Ok Bob.
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hi-x
Secretary Rogers
9/17/70 9:20 a. m.
K: I just wanted to review the situation with you. There is nothing
really in addition to what we discussed last night. Alex and Sisco will
tell you.
R: I've already talked with them.
K: The only thing I wanted to check out was between U.S. and Israeli
air intervention, what is your judgment as to which would be preferable.
R: I am in favor of the Israelis doing it. In fact it's almost com-
manding the reasons are so strong. It would be in line with their
national interests, it would help in preventing the Iraqis from having
a hand in the government of Jordan. The King can give as the reason
the Israelis are on his soil is because of the acts of the Fedayeen.
Third, if we are going to have any peace, Jordan and Israel will have
to work together anyway.
K: That's right. No matter how we slice it the question would be
what are we doing there.
R: I think the national interest argument is very strong. Also,
what if we failed; for Israel to bail us out would be awful.
K: Yes. You and I have to stay closely in touch on this. The Pres-
ident's instincts are the other way, but he's not adamant.
R: If we play it right, we may be able to pull out the whole thing.
K: And if we pull it out the peace offensive has a real chance. It
would be good for credibility with the Israelis and show the Arabs that
moderation is the only course. And we would have a chance of getting
a government there that can make peace.
We may come out very
well.
R: That's what I think. In terms of our personnel: there's a total
of 47. Twenty-some are in a special room which is locked and the others
are in a place protected by the Jordanian army. We also have a report--
a TWA pilot to Beam (?) that all the hostages are in a safe place outside
of the city.
K: Good. The President is very anxious for Ziegler to reaffirm the
Monday statement about the hostages and that we hold the guerrillas re-
sponsible for their safeły.
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Kissinger/Sisco/Greenhill
(Secure Phone)
9/17/70 00 a.m.
G: Can we discuss the present situation in Amman for a moment?
K: Yes.
G: What is the latest report you have from the city?
K: That the army has secured the western hills and is moving on
the road past the Intercontinental Hotel into the city. It has secured
the southern hills but hasn't yet gotten into the heart of the city.
G: Do you think the King's claim that he will have the hostages by
tonight is valid?
K: We can⁺t judge that. We do judge that the whole operation will
take longer than a day. But it is also our judgment that he can defeat
the Fedayeen by himself.
G: I don't know whether you have seen the text of what we have
proposed Bern Group
should put out this afternoon.
K: No, I haven't seen it. I have Joe Sisco on the line also.
G: Have you seen it Joe?
S: No. I am up on all the wire traffic but haven't seen that.
G: We have proposed that the Bern Group should put out the following
communique: "The five governments are ready to open negotiations upon
the proposal of the PFLP as soon as the PFLP provides the Bern Group
with all the demands invluding the release of the people the PFLPwants.
We have furnished
on this basis. Meanwhile,
we will hold the PFLP responsible for the hostages in Jordan. "
S: Offhand my reaction is that sounds very good. It's the precise
position we discussed with you and the others in yesterday's meeting.
We will need to discuss it here with the others. We want to evaluate
the impact of such an announcement on the evolving situation on the
groudd. My only own reaction is quite sympathetic and we will let you know.
G: Okay, secondly, have you reeeived any representations from the
Germans?
K: No, to what effect?
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Kissinger/Sisco/Greenhill
(Secure Phone)
9/17/70 8:00 a. m. page 2
G: You will be receiving one to the same effect as one they sent
to us. What it amounts to is that they are thinking if we can't keep the
five-power basis, we could proceed by a four-power or a three-power
one, or finally a two-power collective agreement for a unilateral agree-
ment for each of us to do the best with our hostages.
K: If you have no other comments of a general nature I will return
to the meeting I left for this conversation.
G: Okay. Joe, we are of course very concerned with the hostages.
There are three possible courses if you you abandon the five-power approach:
the four of us could say that the European prisoners would be exchanged
for all the hostages except for the three Israelis.
S: But those thoee are also Americans.
G: They are not pure Israelis?
S: No, they are Americans.
G: Then that would only be feasible for you if all the hostages, period?
S: Right, this deal is not a deal for us. We're satisfied that those
two or three have an American connection here, they carry American
passports. That's the problem.
G: But theoretically it's a possible deal for all the European prisoners
if all the hostages?
S K: But how does that differ from the announcement you were talking
about? If this deal were available
we've been trying to get it. But
the other side is insisting on this exchange.
G: But in view of this situation they might agree. There is another
deal, that in view of the danger, Germany the Swiss and ourselves would
swap our prisoners for our hostages, leaving you inprovided for. Finally,
we could agree among ourselves that no one would approach the other. XX
S: I can tell you we have difficulties with all three. Moveover, your
government would want to weigh carefully the outcry in this country against
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Kissinger/Sisco/Greenhill
(Secure Phone)
9/17/70 8:00 a.m. page 3
your taking this action. It would be strong and you should be sure that
your ministers understand that.
G: But there would also be an outcry in this country. If we don't
agree to bargain, our people get killed.
S: But who knows whether a separate deal is really feasible?
G: That's true, but people would say 'why didn't you try?'
S: As soon as I'm out of this meeting we will consider the first
proposal, the communique. But you should know that we have now
gove to the Israelis directly.
G: Saying what?
S: Saying basically that we want to act together.
G: Have you gone as far as to say that they must pitch in?
S: Yes, for the first time we have gone to them for concrete and
unilateral contributions.
G: Well, Israel is saying to us that they can't agree to anything
because they are waiting for you.
S: We've gone now, so let's see what we get on that and also get
back to you on the communique.
G: Okay, let me recapitulate our conversation. You will consider
the test of the communique, you will continue saying to Israel that they
must make a contribution. And you will consider our other proposals.
S: Yes, but our interim reaction to them is negative. Let's not
talk in terms of peoposals "Line of thought" is better.
G: Okay. The Bern meeting is at 2:30 this afternoon.
S: Okay, if we need an hour or two delay you'll understand.
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Mr. Kissinger/Roger Davies (Sisco's Office)
September 15, 1970 5:50 p.m.
jlj
K: I just want to check with you what you think about this new
Egyptian statement.
D: About ending the US initiative? We think that they are still
interested. Our position is that the initiative is stalled XXXXXXX
by nature of violations. Have you seen the cable in from Amman?
K: Yes, what do you make of that?
D: I have been working on something else. Joe is up with the
Secretary talking about this now. I am worried about the safety
of the hostages. X This may blow the hostages
I wish they
had gotten them out before this happened.
to the King's
action may threaten their lives if the Kind would not desist.
Joe and the Task Force are working on it. We will keep a close
watch on that.
K: Ok, thank you.
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Mr. Kissinger
Ambassador Freeman
9/15/70; 11:45 p.m.
F: I've been waiting to see if there have been any developments.
K: I have had a talk with Greenhill and we are meeting now with
Moorer, Sisco, Packard, etc. We have answered all his questions
and I don't believe there will be a call to the President.
F: No business that you and I have to do tonight?
K: No. As far as I think, I have answered all Greenhill's questions.
If you want to know the questions and answers, I will give them to you.
F: I won't waste your time -- I will get them through the regular
channels in a little while.
K: I don't think there will be any action. I told him the King will
appoint a military government in about an hour and will leave the rest
up to the Fedayeen.
feg
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Amb. Rabin/Kissinger
9:25 a.m.
9/15/70
R: In continuation of our talk of Sat., I raised one point that I called
freezing. ? ? ? ? ? ? This was --
K: I saw it in some newspapers.
R: They believe a few weeks ago for Dayan came with an idea of having a new
settlement and had something in mind of this kind.
K: Of a new zone? And you are not interested.
R: Right. I told you before.
K: I appreciate that. Some members of bur bureaucracy are aware of it.
R: I think our ambassador to the U. N. talked too much and he was not
authorized. Even they put it in a different way then I put it to you. I want
to lunch with Joe Sisco and I am going to explain that Israel pays no attention
to it. Now I have a thaxxxxxxxxx mush that someone told me in the State
Dept.
K: Right. Our discussion will stay in channel you and I discussed.
R: Now I have to repeat WXSX what was brought up in a very unfortunate way
by our Amb. to the U.N. to Sisco.
K: I have that problem sometimes myself.
R: Second, De Palmer witexx will be in NY tomorrow. When we have the
details --
K: I will let you know tomorrow. The best way it can be done unless it gets
much -- the forum I gave you or larger. I suppose you want the smallest
possible. We have Haig and Sisco. At the end I will suggest he take her to
the garden to talk alone.
R: All right.
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Joe Sisco
9/14/70 12:45 p.m.
S: In between all this hijacking we've completed a first set of
papers for the President for the Golda visit. They have no papers
status yet--they haven't been seen by the Secretary. He has set up
a meeting with me at 11:00 tomorrow morning to go over the papers.
But I wanted first to chat with you. I will have X it typed clean by
the close of business today. I could put them in Hal's hands for you.
K: Just make sure Hal shows them to me.
S: Yes, I can do that. Now, you are going to be away this week?
K: You and I are going together to Chicago on Wednesday.
S: I hadn't known.
K: I'm telling you now.
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Secretary Rogers
9/14/70 12:15 p.m.
R: I have two or three things. First, on the President's trip:
When is the announcement?
K: He is notv thinking of doing it tomorrow. As soon as they tell
us the times, we will tell it to Hillenbrand and from then on handle it
through your channels.
R: I think it's important in the announcing it to stress that it's
not related to the present crisis. Is it going to be played that way.
I think we've got to be sure it doesn't build up tensions in the area.
Say we've had this in mind for some time and had the invitations ex-
tended. Any way we do it it will be construed by the press as an effort
to strengthen our hand in the Middle East.
K: When we get a draft we'll run it by you.
R: Okay. Still haven't heard from the Yugoslavs?
K: Yes, we just have, but they make the same point you do.
R: I see. On the meeting with Golda Meir, I have talked with the
President about this twice. He thought we should meet together, that it
should be the President, you and I and Joe Sisco. I think it would avoid
misunderstandings if we were all to be there.
K: When we have talked about this he thought XNX him, Golda Meir,
Sisco, one other person and Haig. I wasn't going to be there.
R: If we were all there it would look like we were trying to make
something of it; furthermore it's not a state visit. I don't see any reason
for you not to attend. Who will she have?
K: Rabin. If she has Eban you should be there, but I think it will
just be Rabin. What she really wants is to be along with him.
R: Which is what we don't want.
K: Exactly.
R: Has she indicated who she will bring?
K: No. I'm trying to stay out of this one. She has indicated she'd
prefer to talk alone, but if not that, then she'd bring Rabin.
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Rogers/Kissinger
12:06 p.m.
9/12/70
R: On reflection, I don't think it's a good idea to send a threat. All the
passengers are released and in a hotel. We have a cable. I think the idea t
-- now that they are out of the plane the threat to their lives is lessened.
The Jordanians also thought it bad to do a threat now because the moderates
are fighting with the radicals in connection with the passengers. I don't
see the point.
K: You don't think it would give the moderates ammunition?
R: When they take action they minimizes the risk to the passengers is not
the time to tell them "be careful. 11 They have already let them out of the
plane.
K: OK.
R: Secondly, the radicals are SKEXIXTXXTS fearful about an invasion from Israel, not
the U.S. They are there and it's a possibility. Anything that seems
equivocal would be x bad. If we were conveying it directly, I would feel
differently. We did that when I met with their representatives. I said
this is serious but we know your government is not responsible but it
reflects on the Arabs. All those things reflected on troops. The thing that
frightened me about the planes was that they will explode them with
passengers in them. Now they are under command of PFLP and the
Jordanian Army and in different hotels. Now if we say we may invade it
might cause these fanatics to react the wrong way.
K: It's just that we agreed to check this morning.
R: I would have checked earlier but W8 I was testifying.
K: I wasn't criticizing.
R: We will keep you advised.
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Rogers/Kissinger
11:40 a. m.
9/12/70
K: I was wondering if in the light of blowing up these 3 planes it might not
be a good occasion to send that telegram.
R: How do we say it?
K: We just want to say --
R: Just get the x tone.
K: If any harm to the passengers, we would have to take an extremely seriou
view.
R: I see no objection. I just finisted testifying. I will get back to you.
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Mr. Kissing Rabbi Rubin
9:15 p.m., September 11, 1970
K:
Just wanted to tell you that we appreciated your helpfulness -
all your help [during this hijacking business]. I have a list
of some of the 60 passengers that were released. A number of
Jewish among them.
R:
Are they out of Amman?
K:
Out of Amman and in Cyprus. I have the list - two Leckeys,
Friedman,
,
R:
Is Rabbi Hutner on that list?
K:
No, but that is the very first group to be released. Another
plane on the way out. This is just the first 30.
R:
No differential between Jewish and non-Jewish?
K:
No. Hutner off the plane.
R:
Off the airfield?
K:
He is off the plane but [not or not sure he is off the airfield]
R:
Then there is no chance they will blow the plane up?
K:
Practically eliminated.
R:
I was just sitting here
The fact that you took the trouble to
call yourself [means a great deal to me].
K:
Knew how concerned you were.
R:
You may have heard, I made a statement on behalf of Ron Zeigler
saying that from the very beginning in the White House it was
all or nothing. Regards from your Uncle in Sweden. I delivered
a sermon there [saying Henry Kissinger, Advisor to the President
was so great not knowing that he was in the audience]. He came
up and practically hugged me after the sermon was over.
K:
Thank you very much.
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Flanigan/Kissinger
evening
9/11/70
F: Apparently many airlines have recommended that their airplanes not
one
land at Beirut and Damascus. PAA has XXXXX and they want to know what do.
They think there's danger.
K: My recommendation is hot to land there but talk to Rogers.
F: Why?
K: A) I don't think they are astxoxx tough as they pretend but the moderate
Arab Govts need an escuse to attack them. If the moderate Arabs can prove
it hurts them, then they can go to them in the name of the moderate Arabs
and say you are hurting us more than them, I think it's ended soon.
F: You would recommend then that no American lines go into any Arab
countriø?
K: That's my recommendation. We can wait.
F: There's a rumor that there will be an attack if planes land there.
K: That's nonsense. If they don't let prisoners go tomorrow, that's what I
would do.
F: Transportation is brooking the question to State.
K: The State answer will be to land.
F: Then just let them make that recommendation and make them act on it.
K: I don't want to do it wathout consultation with the President. Wait until
the deadline has passed. After Sunday we should do it.
F: I will tell them to take their instructions from State. We will move
in when we have to PX but we will stay out now.
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Sisco/Kissinger
4:10 p.m.
9/11/701
K: The President has asked about 3 times for that message.
S: I drafted it 3 hours ago. It's been on the Secy's desk for 3 hours. After
reading it he said he wanted to talk to you. FYI -he has reservations after he
has seen the message. Please don't get angyy.
K: What can the objections be?
S: I have drafted it and would like to see it go out. The President called me
directly and I told him what I thought we should do. I xrexxxall made the points
Vorontsov. About that time I was ready to give up my problem
K: Don;t you think moving the 6th Fleet was good?
S: I do. But I am in the minority. The Secy. will tell you I expressed this
view again today. I thought it was all straigthened out. It was set in front
of the President. It's on the Secy's desk. It's up to you.
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N. Rockefeller/Kissinger
1:50 p.m.
9/11/701
R: You are great to let me speak to you with the pressure you must be under.
K: It's hectic. But if I can't talk to you, I might as well quit.
R: I was campaigning in Brooklyn this morning and stoppdd in to see a doctor
who has a sister and husband and 5 children. They had two suggestions: One
of the sisters said that the President hasn't said anything personally about
this.
K: We issued a statement yesterday.
R: In his name? Of concern.
K: Yes.
R: In the paper?
K: I don't know.
R: I thought that was one point as family a matter of sympathy. The doctor asked
if it would be helpful to have the хмиххтаху of those go to Washington. I
aaid I assumed everything is being done.
They
K: XXXN have released 62 people today. We moved part of the 6th Fleet and
x let it break radio silence and it was noticed. But we can't mention it.
Everyone who had to know knew it. We can't mention it.
R: These people knew it.
K: Good. I think they should hold off. If nothing happened by next week,
they could come. We will be doing more next week.
R: It would be a mistake too if only members of the Jewish community
came.
K: Absolutely.
R: I also find out those those who are released are not Jewish.
K: I assume not.
R: Just those in the hotel?
K: Women and children. They could include Jewish women and children.
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K: (cont) We have not gotten the list yet.
R: I will tell this doctor perhpas next week. What's happening is that wh
you predicted. It's coming to a head. I hope you are in it.
K: As
said, "when they are in trouble, the call for the sons
of bitches. ir Not fully but more.
R: I hope there's XXXXXXX some realization that we have had amateur week
This is perfect. The board of Rabbis have issued a circular letter denow
Goldwater for saying I was condescending to the Jewish community becaus
I mentioned the Israeli situation.
K: The more he talks, the better off you are.
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Secretary Rogers
9/10/70 5:55 p.m.
K: I just wanted to check with you if they announce the 6th Fedet
visit this weekend is that xpxx apt to screw up the negotiations on the
release of prisoners?
R: It might take on a significance. Could you wait till Monday.
K: I am leaning in that direction.
R: I think that's better. I asked Peter Flanigan to take out that
Xxxxxxx "condemn" language because it too could have an effect. I
think it's best not to do that now. The President has this other announce-
ment tomorrow anyway.
K: Okay.
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Rabin/Kissinger
5:00 p.m.
9/9/70
R: I understand you are troubled with the planes now.
K: Your airplane knew what to do.
R: We had no illusions from the beginning so we armed ourselves. The point
I would like to raise is the question of the visit. I understand the 18th is fine.
K: At 11:00 in the morning.
Tentatively.
R: For the time being. I would like to make it clear.
K: Whenever you want to I will be glad to talk about other things.
R: Whenever you are free to do so I would like to do W50.
K: I will call you in a day or two.
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Secretary Laird
9/8/70 2:30 p.m.
L: I wanted to check on a couple of things with you. First, when I talked
to you
on Friday when the Israelis were over here in the building work-
ing on the F4s and A4s, they didn't go along with the F-4s in 120 days.
K: What do you mean in 120 days?
L: We offered them 120-day credit. That's the most liberal we can give.
K: What do they want?
L: They want us to give it to them.
K: How did we give them the others?
L: [something about the Military Sales Bill]
and the 1969 finance
bill. We never got the finance bill in 1970 or 71. We have kept a close bal-
ance back and forth. They are going to take it up with their Finance Minister
and he wants to talk to David Kennedy about it.
K: Is there anything we can do about it?
L: No I just wanted youto be aware of it. On the proposals for the use of
the American military, we have these timetables.
K: That's just a pipe deeam anyway; we can't get it done by tomorrow
night can we?
L: We might be able to; it would take 24 to 36 hours.
MY
On the evacuation plans, we've got that all worked out XXXXXXXXX
K: And on that other thing, I thought you didn't want to get into it.
X L: No, you're right. The last time we alerted the State Department
said we hadn't and certain people hadn't known and we got showxdewxx shot
down so fast. No, I didn't want to do it.
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Secretary Rogers
Mr. Kissinger
7:29 p.m., 9-17-70
R:
Hello Henry.
K:
I just picked up the phone to call you. Let me guess what you have
on your mind. Let me read a conversation I had with the President
this morning. He said I think we should be enigmatic and say
nothing. Then I said I had talked to Bill and said that we should be
very restrained and low key. His reply was yes, I will say nothing.
He said he had had a talk with you and was glad we were all in
agreement. And he said I won't say anything out here. I don't
know where this leads us.
R:
I don't either. Are they printing the whole thing? My office says
the transcript is pretty bad.
to
K:
Sisco said the conversation (previously) had nothing/do with Jordan.
We were talking about the Klein speech. There was literally no
reference to the Middle East. Well, it is water over the dam. I
think we have to sit tight and see how it plays.
R:
Loomis says the wire services have put out the word to keep the
wires open so they are probably going to give it a good play.
K:
I don't know what Golda Meir thinks she will be getting. If that
is what he says when he gets mad, we will have to keep him calm.
R:
Was this on or off-the-record?
K:
It was off-the-record. I asked him to keep it low key, that we
coul d make military moves but we should not talk about it.
R:
If you look at the telegrams, etc., that have been coming in, it
all has been looking favorable.
K:
I am not sure that it is right for us to move but I don't think we should
say only two people can save him (the King).
R:
Everything has been going so well. He said he was pleased about
how things were being handled.
K:
It may be the end of the Yugoslavia visit. I am not sure he can
afford to have us.
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R:
I thought this was supposed to be off-the-record.
K:
It was supposed to be off-the-record with these certain newspapers.
I prepared nothing really special for it. When I came back from
talking at Justice Department, I thought Haig was pulling my leg
when he was telling me these things.
R:
In the transcript itself, at one point, he said he wanted these
things printed.
K:
Have you seen a transcript?
R:
No, but Loomis read it to me, We will have to see how it plays.
I am not sure it will have any particular effect in the area itself.
K:
I don't know how the Russians will react. It may affect the
Yugoslavia trip.
not
R:
I think we ought to try to caution everybody/to say we didn't expect
any comments like that. You don't mind if I tell my people this was
your briefing paper.
K:
I didn't have a briefing paper. (Ha. Ha.)
R:
Well, we will see how it plays.
mlh
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Mr. Kissinger
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Director Shakespeare
9/17/70; 6:55 p.m.
K: At least you know how to get my attention.
S: Do you want me to read it to you -- they have alerted all the wire
services that at 6:00 Chicago time they will be coming out with a big story.
This is what the President said to the editors and broadcasters - If the
Syrians or Iraquis intervene in Jordan there are only two of us to stop
them, the Israelis or us. It will be preferable for us to do it. The
Russians are going to pay dearly for moving the missiles in. The Israelis
are going to get five times as much as they would have if the missiles
would not have moved. We are embarking on a tougher policy in the
Middle East. The Sixth Fleet is going to be beefed up. I was having
an argument with Kissinger who thinks we blew it in Jordan. We will
intervene if the situation is such that our intervention will make a
difference. Chicago Sun Times is saying as as a lead that it was learned
today from high sources that the U. S. will intervene in Jordan if the
Syrians or Iraquis move. I know what the editors were told, but I don't
know how they will write it.
K: What does he mean that I thought we blew it in Jordan. I have been
raising hell with him along the lines that we have been behaving and that
Jordan was about to blow.
S: This is a senior man's notes of what the President told them.
K: Was Lisagor there?
S: I don't know. We will get this around the world in just a few minutes.
K: I think the Secretary of State is going to have a bloody heart attack.
S: We passed this along to State Rogers and Sisco.
K: God help us. Those fools at State think I am putting him up to it. It
doesn't give me any pain.
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9/17/70 2:40 p.m.
K: The situation in Jordan seems to be picking up.
P: Good.
K: The Fedayeen are being smashed in the area right next to
Iraqi troops and they aren't doing a thing. The Jordanian army has
moved itself between the Fedayeen.
P: When I met the new citizens there were 8 or 10 Jewish people
in the group. I said some of us are American citizens by accident of
birth; some because they choose to be. But I said once you are an
American citizen, there are no degrees. All have the same privileges;
all have the same responsibilities.
K: That's good.
P: I think it was good. It hits the idea of dual nationality. I said
there is no such thing as dual nationality but anybody who flies an Amer-
ican plane deserves the protection of the American government. And I
believe that.
K: You know how pessimistic I have been about the peace offensive,
but I think the lest week or so strengthens our chances.
P: Now we have somebody to negotiate with if this works.
K: We never had a good occasion to show strength in this area.
P: As I said this morning, as far as the facts are concerned, the
strategic interests of the U.S. require that we move carriers, which we
are doing without announcing it. But it's good for us that they have those
hostages because it makes our movement more credible to the Russians.
K: I agree. We are moving the third carrier in there; it wasn't sup-
posed to go until November. ***** And that's a tremendous shot in the
arm for our NATO allies. I was just brought a cable- [Mr. Kissinger
then read a cable which began with the idea that the Iraqi army had
moved away from its best position. ]
P: The main thing is, there's nothing better than a little confrontation
now and then, a little excitement. Bob and I were just talking. sts it's
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probably a good thing those students were there last night.
K: Otherwise they'd have said you were in a safe audience. Mr.
President, I don't like to bother you with these details but on the trip
in Ireland it turns out the place of origin of your family is close to
Bublin.
P: That's right.
K: If you were prepared to meet with Bruce late Sunday we &
could go to Mulkahey (?) on Saturday afternoon. You'd stay two nights
with Mulkahey, Monday you could do your family place and the govern-
meht and arrive back in good TV time. The Irish Ambassador said
anything we want they'll do.
P: But he thinks we should call on them.
K: Absolutely. I had the impression he would prefer Monday.
P: Okay, let's do it Monday. Let's leave bothø the meetings open.
K: Okay, we'll schedule Bruce for 4:00 or 5:00 on Sunday.
P: Find.
K: And Lodge wants to come to the Vatican.
P: That's all right.
K: But I wil 1 tell him to get over by himself so we don't arrive
with such a tremendous party.
P: I think he should go over to prepare a little and talk to everybody,
and then he can help escort me around.
K: Okay, we are staying in government guest houses in
and Belgrade and the Spanish want you to do that there.
P: Okay. How about Heath?
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K: Heath, you will chopper to Checquers, You can meet with him
before lunch, have a working lunch and then meet with him again after
lunch.
R: Good. What about Mrs. Nixon?
K: They are checking the Queen's schedule to see whether she will
be in residence anywhere close by.
P: It would be nice for her to just call on her.
K: They are usually in the north at that time. But they are trying
to arrange the schedule.
P: We don't want anything special done. It's not an official visit.
K: Mrs. Annenberg has arranged for her to chopper to London too.
P: That might be just as nice. I won't see the Embassy residence
then?
K: No, it's technically impossible.
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Secretary Rogers/Mr. Kissinger
September 17, 1970
11:30
9.
m.
jlj
R: I just talked with Bob McCloskey who said that Ron Ziegler was
going to point out that we had a WSAG meeting last night. I think we
should say that we have been in close touch with the President but
not announce the meeting
K: It was a uxxxx unanimous opinion last night that we would announce
it.
R: That we not announce
K: Do announce
R: Joe, [apparently turning to Mr. Sisco] he said that it was the
unanimous opinion to announce the meeting. That wasn't my impression
Better if we would answer a question asking if we had a meeting
rather than making the announcement.
K: Mention it in passing.
R: It would seem to be a better way of handling it. It is import to
point out that we have been in close contact on it with the President
and are on top of the situation but that we are not getting hysterical
about the situation or making rash judgments.
K: That is clear guidance. You and I in close touch. Both in touch
with the President.
R: We should have a careful line. Everyone knows what is going on
and all are alert not any feeling that we are being rash which would be
counter-productive Would be bad for the King.
K: I couldn't agree with you more. We talked about it last night. I
agreed with you. This was a marginal decision to me. At any rate,
I will make sure we just treat it as an answer to a question.
[Note: Mr. Kissinger asked that General Haig be given the above so
that he could pass it on to Ron Ziegler. Both were done. Mr. Kissinger
said to make sure that a question in this regard was asked. ]
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The President
9/17/70 9:45 a. m.
K: I wanted to mention a piece of information connected with
Vietnam. The Viet Cong made a proposal
P: I just called Bill and told him you and I had talked. His point
is well taken too--at the present time we want our moves to be open
but we don't want Jordan to look like a puppet. I am not too xk sure
on that; I'm more interested in the effect on the Russians than on
Iraq and Syria.
K: The aircraft carrier Guam was supposed to leave Friday
morning, but instead we are moving it out Thursday night.
P: From where?
K: Norfolk.
P: Let's get them out. If we are going in for a strike it is not
going to be for nothing. We've got enough 52s with bombs in Europe,
don't we?
K: No, but we can get them over.
P: Okay. I don't see this as just an exercise. If we hit we hit with
everything we've got. I want a plan available so it's a massive strike--
it's mainly psychological. Okay, go ahead with Paris.
K: One other thing in connection with the Middle East first,
Moorer says we could get a third carrier in within a week. Xxxxx It
would be a strong move.
P: Put it in. We're going there; I want to see a formidable display
out there anyway.
K: Okay. About Vietnam, the Viet Cong have made some proposals
today that are still not in acceptable form to us but do conform to what
they saidto me. If we were to promise withdrawal by June 30, they say
they would stop military action against them. It's a sort of half-baked
cease-fire proposal; it means they would give up their 6-month deadline.
Also they are notusaying they will deal with any Saigon government that
doesn't include Thieu, Ky and Thiem. We still have the problem that
you identified but before they said they wouldn't negotiate with anybody.
They just may not be able to make a proposal we can accept,
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P: And they may be waiting for their meeting with you.
K: That's right. But they are confirming publicly what they told
me privately- - so they weren³t just stringing me along.
P: Let's keep waiting a little while.
K: Yes, the 7th of October is still three weeks from now, and the
Middle East will blunt the headlines on this.
P: That's/ right.
K: Finally, Bunder talked with Ky, offering him a dinner, and
said he thinks Ky will finally agree not to come.
P: That just postpones it.
K: At the press today we low-keyed the immediate crisis. The
Russians will pick it up.
P: Right. I won't say anything out here.
K: Bill thinks holding them responsible for the hostages is xexx
very important.
P: That's right. You know the TWA pilot said the Americans are
out of the city.
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Mr. Kissinger/Ambassador Freeman (UK)
September 17, 1970 7:55 p.m.
jlj
K: I do not know if you have heard any of the press reports from Chicago.
The President's two backgrounders are rather explosive headlines associated
with them. I know no more than you because it was not previously planned.
Headlines that say Soviets made biggest mistake in missile buildup in
XXX Middle East. 5 times as much support as the Israelis wanted. That
the King cannot and there are only the Israelis and the United States to keep
that from happening. That going to the XXXXXXXX Mediterranean is a show
fx of force. Many things that we are doing. I called because I do not want
your people to panic there.
F: This was an unscripted occasion?
K: Unscripted and just for your information caught us a little short here.
It reflects the thinking here obviously.
not opening shot.
F: I will try to get some sort of message to my people in London.
K: Do you have any Kennedy thoughts? [referring to Sec. of Treas. Kennedy]
F: I have been waiting for two reasons. Chancellor has been away for 36 hours.
There is alarm in Treasury. I do not know what the answer will be. Treasury
thinks it is ill advised.
special trip to London at this time. I know what
Treasury is saying in London. I know what papers are going up but I do not
know what the answer may be.
K: Secretary's level. Who is plagueing me.
F: I am being slightly unhelpful. I would think US Treasury too would have
some serious problems with it.
K: Bureaucratic issues.
F:
difficulty you are in. I know what submissions are going up.
K: You can't carry them in the way I do occasionally.
F: Rather further away than you are.
K: Do you have anything on the First Ladyes?
F: It may be 24 to 36 hours. We are really trying to work something
out that will be useful, Along the lines we discussed.
K: Treasury.
(?)
may be difficult for me personally.
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X F: When I have got something I will tell you.
K: I am not pushing. Just thought your spokesman could be dampened down.
any prospects. - on the backgrounders.
F: I will do that at once.
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Mr. Kissinger/Secretary Rogers
September 17, 1970 8:30 p.m.
jlj
K: Joe, this afternoon, when he was over for the WSAG meeting said he
had a scheme to get the talks moving again. Without going into it. In
general that she be ready to talk
I am constantly awed by his
intellect.
R: What he had in mind
K: I mean that as no criticism. He comes up with more schemes than
anybody I know. He is always thinking.
R: He has a good group of people. Tentative way
If she shows any
inclination
cold proposition. Have you heard anything from the plane?
I thought maybe Ron Ziegler would call.
K: I checked and we did nXX no briefing books. I know you were just kidding.
R: I was just joking. I will have to NXMX label my cracks.
K: I know you were joking. Just heard that we did hear from Ziegler.
He got the intervention thing dropped completely. But I heard that
Lisagore was running around town spreaking rumors.
R: Did you hear about you. They quoted you as saying
Did you
hear that?
K: I just said that someone XXXXXX garbled it. You and I both agreed.
That the chances of
Assuming the editor cut it
R: If he got intervention out of there it's OK about strengthening the
6th Fleet. Fine how he feels about the Mediterranean.
K; If he got talking about the missiles out of there.
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Mr. Kissinger
Secretary Rogers
9/17/70; 9:15 p. m.
R: The meeting tomorrow, I assume it's still Al Haig and Sisco,
The President doesn't plan to have either you or I? If he changes
his mind, please let me know. I think it would be a mistake if he
had you and not me.
K: You can be absolutely sure that I am not going. If he does call
me, I won't want to go.
R: Are you going to the meeting tomorrow?
K: I thought it was canceled.
R: Oh!
K: They (Golda Meir) had asked for a private meeting with me and
I refused it.
R: Have you gotten any more on the stories?
K: The President is calling me, I'll call you back.
9/17/70; 9:30 p.m.
K: He (President) isn't really sure of what has happened. Let's see
how the stories play. I told him that we are all together that we
are all agreed on the main outline. On the Middle East, I won't
permit the Israelis to play you and me against each other. I have
refused to see Golda Meir at all tomorrow and there can be no
possible change. Even if the President asks me, I will refuse.
I told him (President) there had been some stories coming out.
He said he tried to stick to the basic line. He has been quite euphoric
a little like the Pentagon visit, I mentioned few of the stories to
him and he said they must have leaked out of some of the remarks
made to the media yesterday. That's embargoed until Sunday -- some
may come out of it. It was a very good thing -- I will send you the
transcript. He was eloquent.
R:
B ut that was supposed to be off the record.
K: Yes. My understanding is that today's was supposed to be off
the record, also.
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Secretary Rogers
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R: I guess you got the same
K: (Laughter) Yes, he must have at some point said I want that printed.
R: Like Martha Mitchell on the plane the other night. After a couple
of drinks she said there was something she wanted used in the paper
As long as it doesn't cause trouble and this may not.
K: It may do some good in bringing home to the Soviets that our
patience is wearing thin.
R: Once we decide on something, I don't care what the hell the decision
is -- I have trouble calling the signals one way and running the play
the other.
K: The strategy is that when you are winning it is better not to say
a hell of a lot.
R: Actually, I am fairly relaxed about mistakes we make -- but I do
have trouble calling the play
K: I will do my damnedest to make sure that you get a warning of
anything I see so that you will be aware of it. You can see why the
President got carried away. He made it sound like it was just an
informal session.
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Mr. Kissinger/Secretary Laird
September 17, 1970 7:45 p.m.
jlj
K: Mel, Have you heard the President's backgrounder in Chicago today?
Well Mel, you have to move that carrier.
L: I already signed that thing
K: No I was just kidding. The President's backgrounder was a Wasxerx
whopper. We told him to say nothing. He said the Soviets made their
worst mistake in building up missiles in the Middle East. We are going
to give the Israelis 5 times as much as he had planned. The King cannot
fall. It is better for us to go in. Reinforcing fleet in Mediterranean.
Going to Mediterranean to show [strength]. This may blow the Yugoslav
trip. It's a tough line if you want the tough line.
L:
The only reason I wanted you
K: I will raise that issue with him. He will call me when he gets in tonight.
I just
wanted you to know from me I had no inkling whatsoever of what he was
going to say. We prepared no briefing books for him. I thought it was going
to be a bull session.
L: Is it on the wires?
K: I understand that it is being played big in the Chicago Sun Times. I have
not seen it and only have had someone read it to me,
L: It would be a big story out there.
K: All the departments should stick together on this. I just talked with
Bill and we agreed that we should say nothing. The President's remarks
speak for themselves.
L: I had better get my public affairs people together tonight.
K: I know that some of you feel strongly about this but I think we must hold
together on this.
Packard and Praeger [I told Packard and Praeger
about the line developing] that line developing was quite different than
that.
L: I just left Dave.
K: I was out for an hour this afternoon and when I got back and Haig told
me I thought he was joxmyx pulling my leg. I think I should call the British
and warn them what is going to break.
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L: I think you sho Henry. It would startle then 00 much, You ought
to call. I think we had better go ahead and talk with them.
K: That was the mood he had, [Referring to the mood of the President. ]
I did not think he was going to do it.
L:
XeXxxxgXrX seeing stories of wives and XXXXXXX families
K; We can wait,
He will undoubtedly call me when he comes in. If
he is in a mood to run it by I will talk to him.
L: I am ready to go (?) it. I only thought
K: You did the right thing Mel. You did exactly the right thing.
L: Go now and then blow a little later.
K: You did exactly the right thing Mel.
L: Henry, about this trip to the Mediterranean, How are things going to
work out?
K: What he was wondering was
XIXXX
You
go out with the military people in your plane. Meet MXXXXX in Rome and
go out to the Fleet with him,
L: I think it would be better if I would go with him. We would have the
military meet us with the Fleet. They can take my plane and then I would
come back with them. I think it would be strange if I did not go with him.
K: I agree with you.
L: Tom Moorer feels that way.
K: I will check it out.
L: No problem?
K: Well, the Italians are not too eager to have talks on the Defense level.
L: We can finesse that.
K: If you can finesse it.
L: I have a friend with the Italian Defense
K: Why don't you meet separately with him. What is his name?
L: Tanessi (phonetic).
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K: If you could meet separately with him that would solve it.
L: He is going to Chair the meeting of Defense Ministers in October and
I could talk to him. European Defense Ministers are going to be meeting
in Brussels on this burden sharing.
XXX K: I will talk to Haldeman. [re trip and Laird going with President. ]
I do not see any problem on that.
L: Then Wednesday I will come back.
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The President/ Mr. Kissinger
September 17, 1970 9:30 p.m.
jlj
P: Anything new?
K: King seems to be in pretty good shape. It
has been night there since about 2 o'clock.
P: They probably won't do anything at night. The Russians are really stewing
right now. Woul dn't you say? As you probably heard I put in a little squibb
today.
K: The backgrounders are beginning to break in the East now.
P: The stakes are high and we are not looking at this as a little
let them
K: Might as well/kno W what chips are in the pot.
P: I agree with you in how to handle the Soviets is with cool detachment.
I was wrong before. You are completely right. Do not warn them. They
think you are bluffing. Just move
I want Helms to know that I think
he should get some confused traffic out about ship movements.
K: I must tell you Mr. President that moving the Kennedy we have had
to cancel shore leave for *he xxxxxxx most of the crew.
P: That's all right. Shore leave is not all that easy. We will give them
double the leave next time.
K: When the Soviets see the Kennedy come through the Straits of XXXX
Gibraltor and
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relinges
P: They will know that we are ready to do something. / ????? Makes
them think we might do something.
K: You have the events leading to the highjacking - they have been a net
loss for the Soviets. Concentrating on other things.
P: King has been informed that we will support him?
K: Yes. By the way, Ambassador Brown has done a very good job,
P: That meeting with him helped him.
K. You told him he was going to where the action was. He has been very
coolheaded.
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P: Bureaucracy is all together on this one? Bill knows that the peace
offensive is based on Jordan.
K: Yes, everyone is pulling together. I am more optimistic about the
peace offensive - if it works
P: About this visit tomorrow. We have to handle it with resolve. Don't
want Meir going out and saying that we will go into Jordan. I made it
clear in my backgrounder. thax It would be fatal to the King if the
Israelis came in andalmost
[Paraphrased the President said it
wouldn't be very good if PM Meir walked out tbx of the meeting and said
that they were going to move into Jordan. ] Jordan has to be strengthened
to scare off Iraquies and Syrians.
K: It gave us an opportunity
I talked to Rabin for 2 minutes today
and told him [to cXXXIX keep it cool. ]
P: Who is setting in tomorrow.
K: Sisco, Haig, Eban. I think it would be good if after the meeting you
would let the others go and stays spend 20 minutes with Meir. At least
then she could say that she had a private meeting with you.
P: Yes, you told me.
The reception in Chicago was good today. We went
around the streets.
Quite a reaction to the speech.
K: Yes, excellent. Comments and what I have read were good. The
editors thing went well yesterday. Today was good too. Jordan thing
good for us.
P: Appear like quite a crisis but we lanced the boil and now
The King is doing well?
K: Yes. About relaunching the peace initiative. I think we should take
a longer look at the scenario. I think we should know where we are going
and not be wishy washy] when we relaunch it. When
you meet with Meir tomorrow do not urge any particular course of action.
P: The visit should not strengthen Hussains enemy's position. I wish we
could do something publicly in support of the King.
K: I do not think that he is eager for too much publicity. He knows that
we have planes available.
P: For strikes?
K: To carry in weapons if he needs them.
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P: We also have airplanes to strike. I want Europe mobilized in readiness.
If we do I want (strike he is talking about) to hit massively. Not XXXXX
just little pinpricks. I want them to know we are hell bent for election.
K: If the King's military situation is as good as he thinks there is no problem.
This afternoon they were hitting a commando unit in the middle of an Iraqu
unit and the Iraqis did nothing. Nasser has not said anything. That is the
most support he could give Hussain.
P: Are the Soviets saying anything?
K: Nothing.
P: I think this visit to the Sixth Fleet is good don't you?
K; The visit to the 6th Fleet is very good. Marvin Kalb says it is
a master stroke. He is Jewish, but he thinks XX it was a very good move.
P: Well, that's all right. We want him with us. He thinks it was a master
stroke? What did he say?
K: We are committed to the Middle East. [HAK went into long talk on our
Middle East policy and what we wanted there.
]
P: I gave a hard thrust. I told the edótorial boards today. The Russians
know that if they moved they had us to deal with.
K: Salutory. If some of this stuff leaks it will be fine. It is not an Arab/
Israeli conflict. Israeli should not be alone in this,
P: That is what I said yesterday
K: [if the bureaucracy ever understands ? ? ? ] [importance of Middle East. ]
P: I said look where without support of Soviet Union to Syria/Iraq?
If you want to see if it matters why are they building up a Fleet?
K: And we have no reliable land basès there.
P: I know that. And did you hear about my statement on Greece and Spain.
They may not like them but they are our people.
K: Very strong statement. But on this Jordan thing the bureaucracy was
pulling together. I think this thing is coming out well.
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P: What about what the Viet Cong said in Paris? Du you think there is a
change?
K: It is a small sign.
They
have
extended the period of withdrawal that they X said to meet. Might want
to only talk about withdrawal to us and military withdrawal] to Saigon. That
is what we want. That is what I have to clarify on the 27th. The K fact
that they presented a proposal is good. I got a letter from Bruce. Very
intellectual letter, MXXXXXXXX In reply to my minutes of the meeting which
I sent to him.
P: NX Understood it, did he?
K: Yes, He is willing to bore others as they are boring him. He is a fine
fellow. Very good.
P: He is the best man we have had over there so far. How is he? Feeling
all right?
K: Yes, he seems to be fine. [ I am going openly over there. Leaving on
Saturday to see him in preparation of your coming over.
]
P: You won't even need a cover. It's great.
K: Would you want me to stop and give Pompidou a little briefing?
P; Yes, I think that would be good. You could tell him you have a personal
message from me. I want you to call Lucet and tell him that tomorrow.
The street crowds in Chicago were good. I cameout of the Chicago Sun-Times
Building and there were 50XXXXXXXXX hard hats - 50 stories up.
K: If there were national elections today it would be a landslide. Even press is cor
around. You have held your course through so many visitudes (?)
XXX and even the press respects you for it. They are not affectionate,
but they respect you. [
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Joe Sisco
9/18/70 8:00 a. m.
K: On that cable to Teheran, the President wanted to put our
thinking to the Shah too. He can't go back to the Shah afterward and
say "That is what we thought; now what do you think?'
S: I gave instructions for you to clear it. Let me find out who
cleared it in the White House.
K: The President has a strong feeling about the Shah. Can't we
just give him some guidance.
S: Yes, that's easy enough.
K: Is it still going to be in time or has he already seen him?
S: I don't know--let me check.
K: Okay. And in that meeting, we are not going to twise any
arms on negotiations today are we?
S: You saw the papers. I am meeting with the Secretary in
20 minutes. If there's been any change I'll have him call you.
K: Okay.
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Laird/Kissinger
morning
9/18/70
E: The President called to thank you for your help. The President wants you on
ACxx AF-1. You will meet the military people in Rome or on the ship would be
best. That wey they have no visibility. You can decide if you want to meet with yo
Defense counterpart.
L: Let's keep that open.
K: The advisor meetings are usually bores.
L: Alone we will get more business.
K: We will be glad to have you in the big meeting but you will hate it. The
second thing, the President wants you, after the fleet exercise, to visit Greece
and Turkey. It seems invidious to visit the Mediterranean and not visit them.
Have you been there?
L: Yes, I have visited bases in Turkey and visited Greece.
K: Plan a day in each place. I will be there tomorrow.
L: It will be nice because it's a good group.
K: Now that I have learned that wives will be there.
L: Yes because you are such a women's man.
K: I heard about your performance at Georgetown Club.
L: I have both a secure phone and anouther line. Chicago wasn't bad.
K: They killed the inflammatory part. The Jordanian exercises have given us
manuevering room.
L: Shows movement towards settlement on part of Egypt and Jordan.
K: Certainly on the part of Jordan and possibly on the part of Egypt.
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Telecon
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Secretary Rogers
9/18/70 3:30 p.m.
R: I got a call from Senator Russell--you!ll probably be getting one-
saying he was opposed to any involvement of any American troops in any-
thirdiciexthe stress in the Middle East. I wanted the President to know that.
He said he would fight it with all the strength at his command. Money and
materiel are different, but anything involving men he is unalterable opposed to.
K: I will get that to him immediately. That's very helpful- - it will
bog it down a bit. I will pass that word on.
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Frankel/Kissinger
6:04 p.m.
9/18/70
F: Two points I want to bring up.
K: Since they won't let me MX expel the Soviets from the M. E., I am pretty
relaxed,
F: We have two separate stories. The flap about the Chicago Sun Times.
K: I wasn't there.
F: What axex our guys say is that the substance of the story is correct but that
the President didn't want it out. I thought I would bounce that off you. The seco
point was what was the mood with Madame Meir today? They have been singing
a bitter song about State.
K: After the meetings?
F: No. Going into the meetings they said the President WX is the President
and that's something else and she can deal with him.
K: Now what are they saying?
F: We can't get to them fast enough but her tone is pretty sanguine. The sheer
words
K: What is she sanguine about?
F: Support and hearing at the WH.
K: She has no problems with the President. They are an unlikely pair but he
has an enourmous respect for her.
F: How did the policy discussions go?
K: I think there was certainly no tension.
F: She didn't come in demanding thus and so?
K: No, it was a constructive meeting.
F: What do I do about the other story. Let it ride?
K: I would play it down. But you haven't always followed my advice and you ma
have different objectives then I.
F: You are a truth teller too.
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6:04 p.m.
9/18/70
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K: I waan't there and therefore I cannot tell you what he did say.
F: The point is that regardless of what he did with the editors, what's coming
out is that what's happening in Iręq and Syria we are prepared to do more than
we are now. That in the papers 24 hours later carries weight.
K: You have seen our statement today and I wouldn't go beyond that.
There are no fixed plans I just would not go beyond that. There's no fixed
determination what to do in given circumstances.
F: OK. Thank you.
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Governor Rockefeller
Mr. Kissinger
9/19/70, 8:20 a. m.
R:
My heart is with you. Happy is here and sends her love. I
am going to see Golda Meir.
K:
I know. I put in a little word. They were all for it. They
did not need much. I think they have handled it.
R:
I thank you very much. I wanted to get any counsel or advice
you might have. I am seeing her tomorrow.
K:
I think she is fairly satisfied with her talk with the President.
I think her enthusiasm for some of the others is not as
pronounced.
R:
Was Rogers in the talks?
K:
No, he saw her separately twice. I think the talks with the
President went fairly well. I believe she is leaving in a better
frame of mind than when she arrived, I think you should
keep the line we talked about.
R:
Thanks to your keeping me from going off the line I have been
getting a tremendous response up here.
K:
Well, you did not need any convincing on that. She refuses
to negotiate unless Egypt pulls back some of those missiles.
R:
Any progress on that,
K:
No, not even any significant attempt. If the King of Jordan
wins then events of the last week are a plus because it gave
us an opportunity for a show of strength which was badly needed
and the Soviets who have been insolent on violations have been very
gentle on this one since we started moving forces in there. If
the King collapses, I find it hard to imagine how the Israelis
can be kept out but I am now talking about things that will evolve
over a period of weeks, I think for the immediate future it will
be an uneasy stalemate.
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R:
The Arab Army is fighting?
K:
They stop in the afternoon because no Arab fights at night
and about two hours before they stop the Jordanians always
offer a cease-fire to get the people to come over. They
are proceeding at a stately pace. They are not fighting
with wild abandon.
R:
Well Henry, thank God for you. We lost months of valuable
time because of this stupid diversionary. Well Henry, on a
happier note, Happy had lunch with Christina and I am jealous.
She says she is coming down to see you.
K:
Oh, she did say she was coming down?
R:
Yes. Henry, you are great. We will be seeing you. Thank
you for letting me break in.
mlh
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Secretary Johnson (State)/Mr. Kissinger
September 19, 1970 12:20 p.m.
jlj
J: Henry, have you seen this flash from Amman in which the King is
asking for hospitals. I think the nearest we have undoubtedly is Germany.
I thought I would send a flash back and say of course we would do everything
we could and ask NxecKxinx has the King approached ICRC? We would like
to get an ICRC umbrella in there.
K: Yes, I have seen it. Haig brought it in and he is going to call Sisco
on it. with the same ideas, Our minds are scrotkingx running along the same
lines. I told Haig that we would like a multi-lateral umbrella but we
should not hold up too long in order to organize it.
J: I'll tell them that we are taking all measures that we can.
K: Yes, of course. Multi-laterally with the ICRC or with - jointly
with Germany and France who I understand they also asked.
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Let me read it to you because it is a note - an oral\ntype thing. (Sisco read the message).\nS:\nThe Soviet Government expects that the Government of USA will\nundertake the steps to prevent Israel from taking the steps they\nare planning. Our man in Moscow believes we should come back\nurgently with action he recommends.\nK: Thing is not true, of course.\nS:\nWe have talked about this here and think it affords us an opportunity\nto do the following. Vorontsov just asked to see me urgently and\nhe is meeting with me at 2:30 pm today. At the meeting I will just\nsay thank you very much and receive the message. I will take\ntwo steps. We ought to tell the Israelis that this note has been\nreceived and, of course, we wish to repeat to them what we\nreally said the other day that we assume that there is not going\nto be any unilateral action on their part and how serious this\nwould be. The second phase would be to go back to the Russians\nand say we have taken action in this regard but we want to say to\nyou that you have a responsibility and we have then put them in a\nposition of getting these things out of here and then to conclude\nby saying once these missiles have been removed, you, the\nRussians will no longer have any worry about this. I would\nlike to proceed this way. This raises the question of the letter\nyou have.\nK: The Secretary does not wish to send it. And I am not prepared\nto overrule him.\nS:\nThen we can proceed in this way which will achieve the same\nthing but it gives us the opportunity to (K interrupted here).\nK: Let me tell you my reaction. I would not give color to the fact\nthat we have taken appropriate measures. That gives them a shot\nat the Arabs. All we need to do is tell Rabin that we have had this\ncommunication and I would not make any new views. I would not\ngo back to the Russians today and then today I would go back with\nessentially what you have done here.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed-pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n-2-\nS:\nWithout claiming the credit.\nK: That would be my recommendation.\nS: Okay, that makes sense. I will proceed with that.\nK: Good.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nSecretary Rogers/Mr. Kissinger\nSeptember 9, 1970 4:25 p.m.\njlj\nR: Henry\nK: Yes Bill.\nR: I was calling on another subject, not the Middle East this time,\nonly peripherally. Do we have a date for Mrs. Meir to see the\nPresident yet?\nK: I think it is the 18th.\nR: He talked to me a couple of times on the plane. He said we should\nsee her together. Then there is no difference between us. Do we have\na time of day?\nK: My guess is in the afternoon. I can get it for you quickly.\nR: No, there is no need. I will be over there in a little while.\nI will get it then.\nK: OK\nR: See you in a little while.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nMr. Kissinger\nAmbassador Rabin\n9/10/70; 7:20 p.m.\nR: How are you?\nK: Okay. You called me?\nR: I talked to Haig about the problem of when we can let the public know\nthere would be a meeting.\nK: Can I confirm it to you tomorrow morning. I think you can do it almost\nanytime. I have not been able to get to Haldeman who handles these things.\nI will have an answer to you by 9:30 tomorrow morning.\nR: There are some preparations that have to be made.\nK: You can be certain there are no problems. It is a pure courtesy problem\nat this point -- having President mentioned without his specific approval. I\ncan assure you there is no possibility of a hitch.\nR: I thought it would be helpful if I could have an informal talk with you\nabout some of your views prior to the visit. Whenever it is possible -- the\nsooner, the better.\nK: Let me see what my schedule is for the next few days and then we can\nget together.\nR: The sooner I will be able to give them something, the better it will be\nfor them.\nK: I have to find some government that takes me seriously. (Laughter)\nI will get together with you and give you my views.\nR: I think I would like to tell you in an informal way what we have in mind.\nK: That I take it is for me, or to be passed on? Let's discuss that. You\nmean to be kept in this building?\nR: I would not talk to anybody else.\nK: I will try to do it on Saturday or tomorrow late in the afternoon.\nR: The sooner, the better.\nK: I had planned to go to New York but I don't think I can do that tomorrow.\nIf I don't, we can talk tomorrow.\nR: You will let me know on the other.\nK: Let's say by 10:00 a. m.\nfeg\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nRoger Davies (Sisco's office)\n9/11/70 11:30 a.m.\nD: I have just talked with Vine in Berne who said they will\nmake the five-power declaration in a matter of minutes in behalf\nof the five countries concerned. The Swiss are extremely grate-\nful to the President and have no problem with the White House\nstatement supporting their statement.\nK: We may change a few words. Does that bother you?\nD: No, no problem with that.\nK: Okay, thank you.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nMr. Kissin' r/Secretary Rogers\nSeptember 1970 5:15 p.m.\nX-47\n[paraphrased jlj]\nSANITIZED COPY\nK: Hi Bill\nR: Hi Henry. I was returning your call.\nK: I was just checking with you. The President has mentioned a few\ntimes that cable.\nR: Well,\nArabs not planning military action but just warning them.\nIt is drafted but does not sound right. We must think what message we\nare trying to convey.\nK: I don't want to fall on my sword. There are a couple of arguments\nfor this.\nmoderate Arabs to go back to the guerrillas and say that\nif behave badly that\nXXXX\nXXXXXXX\nXXX, two principla\narguments for it.\nand if, believes movement of Fleet would\ncontribute. I recognize that both of these arguments could be turned\naround.\nR: Well, when we thought about it\nMovement of ships\nprevented from having passengers\nContinued to XXX say that\nwe would not do anything\nArabists in our shop say that when\nyou are dealing with these highly emotional people if you use threats\nit is counterproductive. The Fedayeen - Syria-Iraq have done all they\ncan coxxex to come out against PFLP. You think that is generally what\nthey will do to pick off the passengers. That Red Cross fellow I think\nis danngood.\nK: It's an operational question.\nSANITIZED pu sec 1.4(c)\nR: We did talk to the Ambassadors. The Arab Ambassadors are MMXg\nKehak behaving pretty well.\nOther Africans, even Syria are being good. There is a big question\nwhether we should say to them this is what we are going to do so get\na move on.\nNo, only\nK: No! /If any passengers are harmed.\nR: Any way your phrase it. We do not really hold you responsible\nbut if anything happens\nJordanians have surrounded the PFLP\nWASX\nI just wonder\nand let's think about it. We can decide tomorrow. We still have time.\nThey have released a few passengers.\nXXXXXXX Do you have a guess\nas to how it will be played from now on?\nDECLASSIFIED\nE.O. 12958, as amended, Seet 3.5\nLN05-33/18 per sec 1.4(c) ltr 22 May 2008\nSANITIZED COPY\nBy CIM NARA, Date 2 Apr 2009\n[p. 1062]\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nK: You know the deadline has been turned off.\nR: Has it? You get a cable saying it is off and a half hour later\nyou find out it is back on.\nK: Deadline is still on? ?\nR: Hold up. Can always decide to do this. I don't think the Arabs\nhave any doubt that we are serious. 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Frankly I didn't think you\nshould insist on it. **** As it is the Arab (?) governments are in behind\nthe scenes and are opposed if they say they are. If they are it would have\ngiven them something to work with. It's a tactical decision. I have been\nvery loose about it and have not pressed anybody.\nP: Nothing we can do now. If the passengers are out.\nK: It might have\nit up. The big problem today is Chile.\nP: Their stock market went to hell.\nK: I had a call last night from McCone and Kendall this morning. McEone\nthinks it would be a catastrophe if we let it go. Latin American Bureau\nat State is against doing anything. Korry has stopped all appointments\nunless they come to him.\nP: Did I see those instructions? I want to see them.\nK: They came over here and one of my staff members agreed to it.\n9: I am following it and I want a personal note to State that I want to see\nall cables to Chile.\nK: Maybe I should send a back channel to Korry saying you are interested\nNLNP\nin keeping it open.\nDECLASSIFIED\nE.O. 13526, Section 3.5\nMandatory Review\nCase NLW 04-01\n3(b)(1); Hr. 9/19/2018\nDoc. 2\n26.\nBy RJ/MH NARA, Date 10/9/2018\nNLN 05-33/2158 [p.lof2]\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\n#19\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nC01126386\nSANITIZED COPY\n\"\nSANITIZED\nPresident/Kissinger\n3.3(b)(1)\n12:32 p.m. 9/14/70\n-2-\nP: By all means. I want an appraisal of what the options are. The options\nare having another run-off election.\nK:\nsent someone down for a first hadd look to give their\nappraisal.\nP: Does State want to give them aid?\nK: Let Alicande come in and see what we can work out and work out\nopposition to him.\nP: Like against Castro? Like in Czech. ? The same people said the same\nthing. Don't let them do that. Meyer knows better. Tell Kendall to call\nMeyer.\nK: I did and he is beside himself. Augustine Edwards has escaped and is\ncoming here Monday. I am going to meet with him on Monday for his feel\nof the situation.\nP: We don't want a big story leaking out that we are trying to overthrow\nthe Govt. We want his judgement on the possibility of a run-off election.\nK: I will do that. That's essential.\nP: It's going to hell so fast. Their stock market is down 50%.\nK: Korry sent in a cable today that said while you meet in committees\nP: Korry may have wanted to put us on the spot. He is a Kennedy Democra\nGet a backehannle to him right away.\nK: Exactly. We will have a meeting on Mon. The British Ambassador\ncalled this morning and said he feels he must greet you at Chequers.\nI know your preference but I said I would check with you and get back\nto him.\nP: Lunch there? We will do it.\nK: I will call Freeman.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nSANTI DECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nEO 12958 3.3(b)(1)>25Yrs\nC05098195\n(C)\nX-9\nThe President/Mr. Kissinger\nSeptember 12, 1970 6:15 p.m. jlj\nK: Mr. President\nP: Hi Henry, What anything new?\nK: I just wanted to bring you up todate. All the passengers were off\nthe plane when they blew it up.\nP: I got this word earlier.\nK: They are holding 40 hostages. 23 with dual citizenship, 6 Swiss,\n6 German and 5 British.\nP: They are holding the Israelis? Does this include any Americans?\nNot that it makes any difference. It is still the same thing. Are there\npeople that do claim American citizenship? What about the action\non the other side? - In terms of making a deal? What do they\nwant for the hostages?\nK: They are demanding that the Swiss release 3 fedayeen, the British\nthe woman, the Germans 3 fedayeen.\nP: And from the Israelis?\nK: The 23. The 23 in return for an unspecified number of fedayeen.\nI doubt that the Israelis will agree. Pressure is not so bad on us.\nP: No Americans?\nSome\nK: /Claim that they have dual citizenship. If they have an American\nfinghting in the Israeli army we would have a tough case. Nationalized\nWe are now trying to determine [citizenship questions].\nP: What position are we taking? Problem for Israel XXX to work out.\nK: Ideal would be\nnot releasing prisoners\nGermans\nhave caved in. Swiss are willing to hold out.\nP: What are the British going to do?\nK: Probably will cave. Germans are\nBrandt sent someone\nindependently to Amman. He is very weak\nP: Well, released all the Americans. Do you think the sixth fleet\nhad anything to do with this.\nDECLASSIFIED\nE.O. 13526, Section 3.5\nPer sec. 3.3(b)(i); Hr. 9/19/2018\nBy RIMH NARA, Date 10/9/2018\nNLN05-33/2159 [p.10f3]\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\n#20\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nSANITIZED COPY\n:05098195\nK: Definitely I 'o. In terms of time. The Six Fleet began to move - first\nthey were hyste cal and then they started releasing prisoners.\nP: I still feel that we have ready the contingency plans to go in there.\nsupport the King. He is not prepared to do anything. I think it is\nbest for us to go in to support the King.\nK: There are quite a few people who do not think it is a good idea. Only\nfor evacuation purposes would be best for us to go in. Sisco fedx feels\nthat the King would not stand XXXX after we left if we went in and then\npulled out.\nP: Israel go in?\nK: Yes. Israelis go in. If there is a war\nP: I guess it is pretty much up to the Israelis now.\nK: If it comes out this way.\nP: What do we say or do if anything about these XMXXXX planes being\nblown up?\nK: We should get a plan started to start boycotting countries where planes\nare taken.\nP: Of course, in the future\nSANITIZED\nK:\nencourage King to move against Fedayeen\n3.3(b)(1)\nP: Is he doing that? We want to do that. I am not concerned about the\nlong occupation.\nI still think it is better for us to go in\nand support the King.\nK: It would strap us militarily. Use XXXXXX all our available military\nreserve. The JCS is not anxious to do this.\nP: Well, that is all right. Evacuation is nothing.\nK: This is not the problem anyway.\nP: Problem is how we handle the Fedayeen. We cannot just let them go.\nDo we have anything to do about the Fedayeen.\nK: We can urge Hussain to move against Fedayeen and we would militarily\nsupport it - with air support.\nP: That is what I want to do. If the Israelis did it the ceasefire would go\nSANITIZED COPY\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nC05098195\nSANITIZED COPY\nout the window. [Talking about the psychologica. impact. People thought\nIsraelis bad after 6 day war and now the Israelis were beginning to get\nsympathy again because of the Egyptian/Soviet violations of the ceasefire.\nNow people are siding with Israeli and are sympathtic to them. ]\nNow feel that the Arabs are bad - if the\nIsraelis went in the issue would become very confused.\nSANITIZED\n3.3(b)(1)\nK: Ideal would be if the King could clean up the Fedayeen\nP:\nK: We have a brigade in Europe that we have put on maneuvers. XXXXXX\nXNX the 82nd from the US to follow behind it.\nP: Do not know what the Israelis are going to do?\nK: Most of the Americans out. Otherwise it is between\nproblem ** for Fedayeen because Israeli may move. Ideal for them\nwould have been\nP: I am surprised. What does Sisco think it had to do with it? (Sixth Fleet\nmove) Haig?\nK: General Haig reached the exact same conclusion I did quite independently\n- that the sixth fleet K had a tremendous impact on the releasing of prisoner:\nReproduced SAN at the\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nSANITIZED COPY\nDECLASSIFIED\nE.O. 12958, as amended, Sect 3.5\nX-12\nTelecon\nNLN 05-03/11:Persec 3.3(b)(1)6) PerLtr 4-23-09\nThe President\nBy P.H\nNARA, Date 5-11-09\nY-15\n9/17/70 9:00 a.m.\nK: Incidentally, that speech played bery well in all the Eastern\npepers.\nP: Oh really. Good.\nK: That wasn't what I was calling you about. During the night\nJordan blew. The King moved troops into Amman; he has taken the\nSANITIZED\nwestern and southern suburbs and is advancing into the city. He\nseeme to be gaining the upper hand.\nDuring the night I talked at length to Bob. We are saying you were\nwakened and informed of the situation but in light of the fact that\nHaldeman and Kissinger)\nthere is nothing you could do we/thought it best not to waken you.\nP: That's okay. I knew the King was planning it. We already had\nsigned the paper.\nK: Right. I talked to Bill, Sisco, Moorer and Packard--everyone\nis aboard. They all recognize that it is a crisis,\nP: A crisis that's good.\nK: If the King wins, the peace offensive has a real chance.\nP: We've got to help him. How about the fleet?\nK: It's up there. One thing, everyone agreed you must not come\nback. sEx It would create a crisis atmosphere. We moved the second\ncarrier into the Mediterranean. We've got almost the entire Sixth\nFlexe Fleet near Cyprus now. There's another force with helicopter\ncapability on the Guam. It was going to go to the Mediterranean any-\nway and we are moving ******* into that area.\nP: But this becomes necessary only if the Iraniabs Inagis or Syrians move?\nK: Exactly.\nP: If they move, my strong feeling at this time is that we should\nuse American air and knock the bejesus out of them\nK: That's our feeling.\nP: It would be a show of strength/ on our part.\nSANITIZED COPY\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive.Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nThe President\nSANITIZED COPY\n9/17/70 9:00 a. m. page 2\nK: Well, there are strong arguments on both sides but nothing on\nthat will happen till you are back.\nP: The fact that the Israelis move\nhas other effects. I think\na move on our part shows guts, having to do with these jüjackers also\nI think the U.S. ought to do something if it's air. If it requires men that's\nanother thing.\nK What we have done in this regard, we are acquiring the targets--\ngetting information for these air strikes and feeding them to the\nas fast as we can, We've got to know where to hit.\n3\nersec\nP: The King's move is a result of our encouraging him, is it not?\nThat's the thing I'm thinking about. He ought to be backed up.\nK: We sent out a cable to that effect last night. We think the cable\nwe put out Monday stiffened his back, the one saying we can't tolerate\nthe taking of American hostages. We also authorized the Ambassador\nto tell the King that if he needs material support we will give it very\nsympathetic consideration.\nP: Where are the hostages?\nK: We don't know. So they are in danger. I have talked to the\nBritish--they are prepared to put out a five-power statement which\nis in effect the same thing as you said on Monday, that we hold the\nguerrillas responsible for the safety of the hostages.\nP: Yes, can³t I say that now?\nK: Yes, Ziegler can.\nP: That we will hold the guerrillas responsible and have him quote\nthe President directly.\nK: Right. We also have a package of what we think the King needs.\nP: On this one I am sure you are going to find Sisco would be all\naboard and Bill will be because it's the only chance for his peace offensive.\nSANITIZED COPY\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nDECLASSIFIED\nTelecon\nThe President\n9/17/70 9:00 a.m. page 3\nK: Exactly. If it fails the cease-fire and the peaee offensive are\ndead.\nP: It would be worse than before we started; the Fedayeen would\nhave the upper hand.\nK: It would push Nasser in a redieced radical direction and would\npush the Soviets that way and would make the Israelis unwilling to\naccept promises.\nP: I want you to push through the bureaucracy my feelings, having\na landing team ready for evacuation. As far as their going in and\nfighting, that's another thing. This would get the Russians in, but\nthat's another side of it. This will show whether we have any stake at all\nleft in the Mediterranean.\nK: I have talked to Alex and Bill. Bill is all on board on doing the\nmaximum possible to strengthen the King. On the Israeli versus U.S.\nquestion I haven't talked to him in detail I will get a reading on that.\nP: I think U.S. air has a lot to say for itself. It would be good in\nthe event they still have the hostages\nK: I think it would be a good idea if we told the Shah and gave him\nour approach. That would bring him into it and he could put troops on\nthe Iraqi border.\nP: And we will back him.\nK: Right. These are the measures we have taken. We will meet\nagain at 3:00. It was a worse situation last week. Then everything was\nfestering and we couldn't get a handle.\nP: What this is is a civil war in Jordan with Iraq and Syria in on it.\nHow about your calling Vorontsov and saying \"lay off boys. \"\nK: I think we should be enigmatic and say nothing. They will pick\nthis up.\nP: Okay, this will worry them. But we want the Sixth Fleet stuff in\nthe open.\nK: They'll catch it.\nDECLASSIFIED\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nSANITIZED COPY\nTelecon\nThe President\n9/17/70 9:00 a.m. page X 4\nP: I want them to know we're moving. I want everything that can\nbe done to be done in the open. The wear and tear on the nerves\nbetween the Syrians and Iraqis is very important.\nK: We can move it 12 hours early and get it picked up.\nSANITIZED 3(b CIA\nSANITIZED COPY\nReproduced the Rechard Nixon Presidentia Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nMr. Haldeman/Mr. Kissinger\nSeptember 17, 1970 9:35 a.m.\njlj\nK: I have been with the President and everything seems to be OK. I\nhave had a good talk with Bill and no problems. He knows that [we have\nto be strong. ] XX I think it is a good break if we do it in a tough manly\nway. Of course, if we fall on our face but we won't because we won't\nlet it fail,\nR: How is the President tracking on this? Is he all right?\nK: The President is in good shape. He talked about the course he\nmentioned yesterday morning. I think he is softening though. After he\nhas heard everybody[I think things will be fine. ] I am having full plans\nmade to implement it if he orders it - we can do it.\nH: You know he is going to that newspaper at 11 o'clock.\nK: That should be very low key.\nH: Did you tell him that?\nK: No, but I have a call in to him and I will. The Viet Cong have made\na new peace proposal. It is still not acceptable but they are softening.\nH:\nmove.\nK: I am delighted with it. If we can do it and we will do it.\nH: Bill is along with you on it? No problem there?\nK: He is dead without it.\nH: But you do not know if he knows that.\nK: No, he knows. He does not want to be out in XXXXX front on this.\n[ He knows that we have to be firm on this. He knows if the King falls then\nthis will be the biggest\nin diplomatic history. ] In fact he is\nurging us on. If it fails - no worse than before. But it cannot fail. We\nwill not let it fail.\nH: Will you need the President today?\nK: Just make damn sure I can get to him on the telephone wherever he is.\nYou probably do that anyway but will you double check? We have a 3 p.m.\nmeeting this afternoon.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nH: He is free at 12 o'clock, 1-2 our time he is tied up, 2 until 5 is\nclear,\nK: I have a call in to the President now. He was in the shower. Can\nyou make sure with Coffee that he will get back to me?\nH: Yes, fine.\nK: Ok Bob.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nhi-x\nSecretary Rogers\n9/17/70 9:20 a. m.\nK: I just wanted to review the situation with you. There is nothing\nreally in addition to what we discussed last night. Alex and Sisco will\ntell you.\nR: I've already talked with them.\nK: The only thing I wanted to check out was between U.S. and Israeli\nair intervention, what is your judgment as to which would be preferable.\nR: I am in favor of the Israelis doing it. In fact it's almost com-\nmanding the reasons are so strong. It would be in line with their\nnational interests, it would help in preventing the Iraqis from having\na hand in the government of Jordan. The King can give as the reason\nthe Israelis are on his soil is because of the acts of the Fedayeen.\nThird, if we are going to have any peace, Jordan and Israel will have\nto work together anyway.\nK: That's right. No matter how we slice it the question would be\nwhat are we doing there.\nR: I think the national interest argument is very strong. Also,\nwhat if we failed; for Israel to bail us out would be awful.\nK: Yes. You and I have to stay closely in touch on this. The Pres-\nident's instincts are the other way, but he's not adamant.\nR: If we play it right, we may be able to pull out the whole thing.\nK: And if we pull it out the peace offensive has a real chance. It\nwould be good for credibility with the Israelis and show the Arabs that\nmoderation is the only course. And we would have a chance of getting\na government there that can make peace.\nWe may come out very\nwell.\nR: That's what I think. In terms of our personnel: there's a total\nof 47. Twenty-some are in a special room which is locked and the others\nare in a place protected by the Jordanian army. We also have a report--\na TWA pilot to Beam (?) that all the hostages are in a safe place outside\nof the city.\nK: Good. The President is very anxious for Ziegler to reaffirm the\nMonday statement about the hostages and that we hold the guerrillas re-\nsponsible for their safeły.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nX-12\nKissinger/Sisco/Greenhill\n(Secure Phone)\n9/17/70 00 a.m.\nG: Can we discuss the present situation in Amman for a moment?\nK: Yes.\nG: What is the latest report you have from the city?\nK: That the army has secured the western hills and is moving on\nthe road past the Intercontinental Hotel into the city. It has secured\nthe southern hills but hasn't yet gotten into the heart of the city.\nG: Do you think the King's claim that he will have the hostages by\ntonight is valid?\nK: We can⁺t judge that. We do judge that the whole operation will\ntake longer than a day. But it is also our judgment that he can defeat\nthe Fedayeen by himself.\nG: I don't know whether you have seen the text of what we have\nproposed Bern Group\nshould put out this afternoon.\nK: No, I haven't seen it. I have Joe Sisco on the line also.\nG: Have you seen it Joe?\nS: No. I am up on all the wire traffic but haven't seen that.\nG: We have proposed that the Bern Group should put out the following\ncommunique: \"The five governments are ready to open negotiations upon\nthe proposal of the PFLP as soon as the PFLP provides the Bern Group\nwith all the demands invluding the release of the people the PFLPwants.\nWe have furnished\non this basis. Meanwhile,\nwe will hold the PFLP responsible for the hostages in Jordan. \"\nS: Offhand my reaction is that sounds very good. It's the precise\nposition we discussed with you and the others in yesterday's meeting.\nWe will need to discuss it here with the others. We want to evaluate\nthe impact of such an announcement on the evolving situation on the\ngroudd. My only own reaction is quite sympathetic and we will let you know.\nG: Okay, secondly, have you reeeived any representations from the\nGermans?\nK: No, to what effect?\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nKissinger/Sisco/Greenhill\n(Secure Phone)\n9/17/70 8:00 a. m. page 2\nG: You will be receiving one to the same effect as one they sent\nto us. What it amounts to is that they are thinking if we can't keep the\nfive-power basis, we could proceed by a four-power or a three-power\none, or finally a two-power collective agreement for a unilateral agree-\nment for each of us to do the best with our hostages.\nK: If you have no other comments of a general nature I will return\nto the meeting I left for this conversation.\nG: Okay. Joe, we are of course very concerned with the hostages.\nThere are three possible courses if you you abandon the five-power approach:\nthe four of us could say that the European prisoners would be exchanged\nfor all the hostages except for the three Israelis.\nS: But those thoee are also Americans.\nG: They are not pure Israelis?\nS: No, they are Americans.\nG: Then that would only be feasible for you if all the hostages, period?\nS: Right, this deal is not a deal for us. We're satisfied that those\ntwo or three have an American connection here, they carry American\npassports. That's the problem.\nG: But theoretically it's a possible deal for all the European prisoners\nif all the hostages?\nS K: But how does that differ from the announcement you were talking\nabout? If this deal were available\nwe've been trying to get it. But\nthe other side is insisting on this exchange.\nG: But in view of this situation they might agree. There is another\ndeal, that in view of the danger, Germany the Swiss and ourselves would\nswap our prisoners for our hostages, leaving you inprovided for. Finally,\nwe could agree among ourselves that no one would approach the other. XX\nS: I can tell you we have difficulties with all three. Moveover, your\ngovernment would want to weigh carefully the outcry in this country against\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nKissinger/Sisco/Greenhill\n(Secure Phone)\n9/17/70 8:00 a.m. page 3\nyour taking this action. It would be strong and you should be sure that\nyour ministers understand that.\nG: But there would also be an outcry in this country. If we don't\nagree to bargain, our people get killed.\nS: But who knows whether a separate deal is really feasible?\nG: That's true, but people would say 'why didn't you try?'\nS: As soon as I'm out of this meeting we will consider the first\nproposal, the communique. But you should know that we have now\ngove to the Israelis directly.\nG: Saying what?\nS: Saying basically that we want to act together.\nG: Have you gone as far as to say that they must pitch in?\nS: Yes, for the first time we have gone to them for concrete and\nunilateral contributions.\nG: Well, Israel is saying to us that they can't agree to anything\nbecause they are waiting for you.\nS: We've gone now, so let's see what we get on that and also get\nback to you on the communique.\nG: Okay, let me recapitulate our conversation. You will consider\nthe test of the communique, you will continue saying to Israel that they\nmust make a contribution. And you will consider our other proposals.\nS: Yes, but our interim reaction to them is negative. Let's not\ntalk in terms of peoposals \"Line of thought\" is better.\nG: Okay. The Bern meeting is at 2:30 this afternoon.\nS: Okay, if we need an hour or two delay you'll understand.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nMr. Kissinger/Roger Davies (Sisco's Office)\nSeptember 15, 1970 5:50 p.m.\njlj\nK: I just want to check with you what you think about this new\nEgyptian statement.\nD: About ending the US initiative? We think that they are still\ninterested. Our position is that the initiative is stalled XXXXXXX\nby nature of violations. Have you seen the cable in from Amman?\nK: Yes, what do you make of that?\nD: I have been working on something else. Joe is up with the\nSecretary talking about this now. I am worried about the safety\nof the hostages. X This may blow the hostages\nI wish they\nhad gotten them out before this happened.\nto the King's\naction may threaten their lives if the Kind would not desist.\nJoe and the Task Force are working on it. We will keep a close\nwatch on that.\nK: Ok, thank you.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nMr. Kissinger\nAmbassador Freeman\n9/15/70; 11:45 p.m.\nF: I've been waiting to see if there have been any developments.\nK: I have had a talk with Greenhill and we are meeting now with\nMoorer, Sisco, Packard, etc. We have answered all his questions\nand I don't believe there will be a call to the President.\nF: No business that you and I have to do tonight?\nK: No. As far as I think, I have answered all Greenhill's questions.\nIf you want to know the questions and answers, I will give them to you.\nF: I won't waste your time -- I will get them through the regular\nchannels in a little while.\nK: I don't think there will be any action. I told him the King will\nappoint a military government in about an hour and will leave the rest\nup to the Fedayeen.\nfeg\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nAmb. Rabin/Kissinger\n9:25 a.m.\n9/15/70\nR: In continuation of our talk of Sat., I raised one point that I called\nfreezing. ? ? ? ? ? ? This was --\nK: I saw it in some newspapers.\nR: They believe a few weeks ago for Dayan came with an idea of having a new\nsettlement and had something in mind of this kind.\nK: Of a new zone? And you are not interested.\nR: Right. I told you before.\nK: I appreciate that. Some members of bur bureaucracy are aware of it.\nR: I think our ambassador to the U. N. talked too much and he was not\nauthorized. Even they put it in a different way then I put it to you. I want\nto lunch with Joe Sisco and I am going to explain that Israel pays no attention\nto it. Now I have a thaxxxxxxxxx mush that someone told me in the State\nDept.\nK: Right. Our discussion will stay in channel you and I discussed.\nR: Now I have to repeat WXSX what was brought up in a very unfortunate way\nby our Amb. to the U.N. to Sisco.\nK: I have that problem sometimes myself.\nR: Second, De Palmer witexx will be in NY tomorrow. When we have the\ndetails --\nK: I will let you know tomorrow. The best way it can be done unless it gets\nmuch -- the forum I gave you or larger. I suppose you want the smallest\npossible. We have Haig and Sisco. At the end I will suggest he take her to\nthe garden to talk alone.\nR: All right.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nJoe Sisco\n9/14/70 12:45 p.m.\nS: In between all this hijacking we've completed a first set of\npapers for the President for the Golda visit. They have no papers\nstatus yet--they haven't been seen by the Secretary. He has set up\na meeting with me at 11:00 tomorrow morning to go over the papers.\nBut I wanted first to chat with you. I will have X it typed clean by\nthe close of business today. I could put them in Hal's hands for you.\nK: Just make sure Hal shows them to me.\nS: Yes, I can do that. Now, you are going to be away this week?\nK: You and I are going together to Chicago on Wednesday.\nS: I hadn't known.\nK: I'm telling you now.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nSecretary Rogers\n9/14/70 12:15 p.m.\nR: I have two or three things. First, on the President's trip:\nWhen is the announcement?\nK: He is notv thinking of doing it tomorrow. As soon as they tell\nus the times, we will tell it to Hillenbrand and from then on handle it\nthrough your channels.\nR: I think it's important in the announcing it to stress that it's\nnot related to the present crisis. Is it going to be played that way.\nI think we've got to be sure it doesn't build up tensions in the area.\nSay we've had this in mind for some time and had the invitations ex-\ntended. Any way we do it it will be construed by the press as an effort\nto strengthen our hand in the Middle East.\nK: When we get a draft we'll run it by you.\nR: Okay. Still haven't heard from the Yugoslavs?\nK: Yes, we just have, but they make the same point you do.\nR: I see. On the meeting with Golda Meir, I have talked with the\nPresident about this twice. He thought we should meet together, that it\nshould be the President, you and I and Joe Sisco. I think it would avoid\nmisunderstandings if we were all to be there.\nK: When we have talked about this he thought XNX him, Golda Meir,\nSisco, one other person and Haig. I wasn't going to be there.\nR: If we were all there it would look like we were trying to make\nsomething of it; furthermore it's not a state visit. I don't see any reason\nfor you not to attend. Who will she have?\nK: Rabin. If she has Eban you should be there, but I think it will\njust be Rabin. What she really wants is to be along with him.\nR: Which is what we don't want.\nK: Exactly.\nR: Has she indicated who she will bring?\nK: No. I'm trying to stay out of this one. She has indicated she'd\nprefer to talk alone, but if not that, then she'd bring Rabin.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nRogers/Kissinger\n12:06 p.m.\n9/12/70\nR: On reflection, I don't think it's a good idea to send a threat. All the\npassengers are released and in a hotel. We have a cable. I think the idea t\n-- now that they are out of the plane the threat to their lives is lessened.\nThe Jordanians also thought it bad to do a threat now because the moderates\nare fighting with the radicals in connection with the passengers. I don't\nsee the point.\nK: You don't think it would give the moderates ammunition?\nR: When they take action they minimizes the risk to the passengers is not\nthe time to tell them \"be careful. 11 They have already let them out of the\nplane.\nK: OK.\nR: Secondly, the radicals are SKEXIXTXXTS fearful about an invasion from Israel, not\nthe U.S. They are there and it's a possibility. Anything that seems\nequivocal would be x bad. If we were conveying it directly, I would feel\ndifferently. We did that when I met with their representatives. I said\nthis is serious but we know your government is not responsible but it\nreflects on the Arabs. All those things reflected on troops. The thing that\nfrightened me about the planes was that they will explode them with\npassengers in them. Now they are under command of PFLP and the\nJordanian Army and in different hotels. Now if we say we may invade it\nmight cause these fanatics to react the wrong way.\nK: It's just that we agreed to check this morning.\nR: I would have checked earlier but W8 I was testifying.\nK: I wasn't criticizing.\nR: We will keep you advised.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nRogers/Kissinger\n11:40 a. m.\n9/12/70\nK: I was wondering if in the light of blowing up these 3 planes it might not\nbe a good occasion to send that telegram.\nR: How do we say it?\nK: We just want to say --\nR: Just get the x tone.\nK: If any harm to the passengers, we would have to take an extremely seriou\nview.\nR: I see no objection. I just finisted testifying. I will get back to you.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELECON\nMr. Kissing Rabbi Rubin\n9:15 p.m., September 11, 1970\nK:\nJust wanted to tell you that we appreciated your helpfulness -\nall your help [during this hijacking business]. I have a list\nof some of the 60 passengers that were released. A number of\nJewish among them.\nR:\nAre they out of Amman?\nK:\nOut of Amman and in Cyprus. I have the list - two Leckeys,\nFriedman,\n,\nR:\nIs Rabbi Hutner on that list?\nK:\nNo, but that is the very first group to be released. Another\nplane on the way out. This is just the first 30.\nR:\nNo differential between Jewish and non-Jewish?\nK:\nNo. Hutner off the plane.\nR:\nOff the airfield?\nK:\nHe is off the plane but [not or not sure he is off the airfield]\nR:\nThen there is no chance they will blow the plane up?\nK:\nPractically eliminated.\nR:\nI was just sitting here\nThe fact that you took the trouble to\ncall yourself [means a great deal to me].\nK:\nKnew how concerned you were.\nR:\nYou may have heard, I made a statement on behalf of Ron Zeigler\nsaying that from the very beginning in the White House it was\nall or nothing. Regards from your Uncle in Sweden. I delivered\na sermon there [saying Henry Kissinger, Advisor to the President\nwas so great not knowing that he was in the audience]. He came\nup and practically hugged me after the sermon was over.\nK:\nThank you very much.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nFlanigan/Kissinger\nevening\n9/11/70\nF: Apparently many airlines have recommended that their airplanes not\none\nland at Beirut and Damascus. PAA has XXXXX and they want to know what do.\nThey think there's danger.\nK: My recommendation is hot to land there but talk to Rogers.\nF: Why?\nK: A) I don't think they are astxoxx tough as they pretend but the moderate\nArab Govts need an escuse to attack them. If the moderate Arabs can prove\nit hurts them, then they can go to them in the name of the moderate Arabs\nand say you are hurting us more than them, I think it's ended soon.\nF: You would recommend then that no American lines go into any Arab\ncountriø?\nK: That's my recommendation. We can wait.\nF: There's a rumor that there will be an attack if planes land there.\nK: That's nonsense. If they don't let prisoners go tomorrow, that's what I\nwould do.\nF: Transportation is brooking the question to State.\nK: The State answer will be to land.\nF: Then just let them make that recommendation and make them act on it.\nK: I don't want to do it wathout consultation with the President. Wait until\nthe deadline has passed. After Sunday we should do it.\nF: I will tell them to take their instructions from State. We will move\nin when we have to PX but we will stay out now.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nX-\n-\nTELCON\nSisco/Kissinger\n4:10 p.m.\n9/11/701\nK: The President has asked about 3 times for that message.\nS: I drafted it 3 hours ago. It's been on the Secy's desk for 3 hours. After\nreading it he said he wanted to talk to you. FYI -he has reservations after he\nhas seen the message. Please don't get angyy.\nK: What can the objections be?\nS: I have drafted it and would like to see it go out. The President called me\ndirectly and I told him what I thought we should do. I xrexxxall made the points\nVorontsov. About that time I was ready to give up my problem\nK: Don;t you think moving the 6th Fleet was good?\nS: I do. But I am in the minority. The Secy. will tell you I expressed this\nview again today. I thought it was all straigthened out. It was set in front\nof the President. It's on the Secy's desk. It's up to you.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nN. Rockefeller/Kissinger\n1:50 p.m.\n9/11/701\nR: You are great to let me speak to you with the pressure you must be under.\nK: It's hectic. But if I can't talk to you, I might as well quit.\nR: I was campaigning in Brooklyn this morning and stoppdd in to see a doctor\nwho has a sister and husband and 5 children. They had two suggestions: One\nof the sisters said that the President hasn't said anything personally about\nthis.\nK: We issued a statement yesterday.\nR: In his name? Of concern.\nK: Yes.\nR: In the paper?\nK: I don't know.\nR: I thought that was one point as family a matter of sympathy. The doctor asked\nif it would be helpful to have the хмиххтаху of those go to Washington. I\naaid I assumed everything is being done.\nThey\nK: XXXN have released 62 people today. We moved part of the 6th Fleet and\nx let it break radio silence and it was noticed. But we can't mention it.\nEveryone who had to know knew it. We can't mention it.\nR: These people knew it.\nK: Good. I think they should hold off. If nothing happened by next week,\nthey could come. We will be doing more next week.\nR: It would be a mistake too if only members of the Jewish community\ncame.\nK: Absolutely.\nR: I also find out those those who are released are not Jewish.\nK: I assume not.\nR: Just those in the hotel?\nK: Women and children. They could include Jewish women and children.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nN. Rockedeller/Kissinger\n1:50 p.m.\n9/11/80\n-2\nK: (cont) We have not gotten the list yet.\nR: I will tell this doctor perhpas next week. What's happening is that wh\nyou predicted. It's coming to a head. I hope you are in it.\nK: As\nsaid, \"when they are in trouble, the call for the sons\nof bitches. ir Not fully but more.\nR: I hope there's XXXXXXX some realization that we have had amateur week\nThis is perfect. The board of Rabbis have issued a circular letter denow\nGoldwater for saying I was condescending to the Jewish community becaus\nI mentioned the Israeli situation.\nK: The more he talks, the better off you are.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nSecretary Rogers\n9/10/70 5:55 p.m.\nK: I just wanted to check with you if they announce the 6th Fedet\nvisit this weekend is that xpxx apt to screw up the negotiations on the\nrelease of prisoners?\nR: It might take on a significance. Could you wait till Monday.\nK: I am leaning in that direction.\nR: I think that's better. I asked Peter Flanigan to take out that\nXxxxxxx \"condemn\" language because it too could have an effect. I\nthink it's best not to do that now. The President has this other announce-\nment tomorrow anyway.\nK: Okay.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nRabin/Kissinger\n5:00 p.m.\n9/9/70\nR: I understand you are troubled with the planes now.\nK: Your airplane knew what to do.\nR: We had no illusions from the beginning so we armed ourselves. The point\nI would like to raise is the question of the visit. I understand the 18th is fine.\nK: At 11:00 in the morning.\nTentatively.\nR: For the time being. I would like to make it clear.\nK: Whenever you want to I will be glad to talk about other things.\nR: Whenever you are free to do so I would like to do W50.\nK: I will call you in a day or two.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nSecretary Laird\n9/8/70 2:30 p.m.\nL: I wanted to check on a couple of things with you. First, when I talked\nto you\non Friday when the Israelis were over here in the building work-\ning on the F4s and A4s, they didn't go along with the F-4s in 120 days.\nK: What do you mean in 120 days?\nL: We offered them 120-day credit. That's the most liberal we can give.\nK: What do they want?\nL: They want us to give it to them.\nK: How did we give them the others?\nL: [something about the Military Sales Bill]\nand the 1969 finance\nbill. We never got the finance bill in 1970 or 71. We have kept a close bal-\nance back and forth. They are going to take it up with their Finance Minister\nand he wants to talk to David Kennedy about it.\nK: Is there anything we can do about it?\nL: No I just wanted youto be aware of it. On the proposals for the use of\nthe American military, we have these timetables.\nK: That's just a pipe deeam anyway; we can't get it done by tomorrow\nnight can we?\nL: We might be able to; it would take 24 to 36 hours.\nMY\nOn the evacuation plans, we've got that all worked out XXXXXXXXX\nK: And on that other thing, I thought you didn't want to get into it.\nX L: No, you're right. The last time we alerted the State Department\nsaid we hadn't and certain people hadn't known and we got showxdewxx shot\ndown so fast. No, I didn't want to do it.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n***\nTELCON\nY-19\nSecretary Rogers\nMr. Kissinger\n7:29 p.m., 9-17-70\nR:\nHello Henry.\nK:\nI just picked up the phone to call you. Let me guess what you have\non your mind. Let me read a conversation I had with the President\nthis morning. He said I think we should be enigmatic and say\nnothing. Then I said I had talked to Bill and said that we should be\nvery restrained and low key. His reply was yes, I will say nothing.\nHe said he had had a talk with you and was glad we were all in\nagreement. And he said I won't say anything out here. I don't\nknow where this leads us.\nR:\nI don't either. Are they printing the whole thing? My office says\nthe transcript is pretty bad.\nto\nK:\nSisco said the conversation (previously) had nothing/do with Jordan.\nWe were talking about the Klein speech. There was literally no\nreference to the Middle East. Well, it is water over the dam. I\nthink we have to sit tight and see how it plays.\nR:\nLoomis says the wire services have put out the word to keep the\nwires open so they are probably going to give it a good play.\nK:\nI don't know what Golda Meir thinks she will be getting. If that\nis what he says when he gets mad, we will have to keep him calm.\nR:\nWas this on or off-the-record?\nK:\nIt was off-the-record. I asked him to keep it low key, that we\ncoul d make military moves but we should not talk about it.\nR:\nIf you look at the telegrams, etc., that have been coming in, it\nall has been looking favorable.\nK:\nI am not sure that it is right for us to move but I don't think we should\nsay only two people can save him (the King).\nR:\nEverything has been going so well. He said he was pleased about\nhow things were being handled.\nK:\nIt may be the end of the Yugoslavia visit. I am not sure he can\nafford to have us.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n-2-\nR:\nI thought this was supposed to be off-the-record.\nK:\nIt was supposed to be off-the-record with these certain newspapers.\nI prepared nothing really special for it. When I came back from\ntalking at Justice Department, I thought Haig was pulling my leg\nwhen he was telling me these things.\nR:\nIn the transcript itself, at one point, he said he wanted these\nthings printed.\nK:\nHave you seen a transcript?\nR:\nNo, but Loomis read it to me, We will have to see how it plays.\nI am not sure it will have any particular effect in the area itself.\nK:\nI don't know how the Russians will react. It may affect the\nYugoslavia trip.\nnot\nR:\nI think we ought to try to caution everybody/to say we didn't expect\nany comments like that. You don't mind if I tell my people this was\nyour briefing paper.\nK:\nI didn't have a briefing paper. (Ha. Ha.)\nR:\nWell, we will see how it plays.\nmlh\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nFld\nMr. Kissinger\nX-18\nDirector Shakespeare\n9/17/70; 6:55 p.m.\nK: At least you know how to get my attention.\nS: Do you want me to read it to you -- they have alerted all the wire\nservices that at 6:00 Chicago time they will be coming out with a big story.\nThis is what the President said to the editors and broadcasters - If the\nSyrians or Iraquis intervene in Jordan there are only two of us to stop\nthem, the Israelis or us. It will be preferable for us to do it. The\nRussians are going to pay dearly for moving the missiles in. The Israelis\nare going to get five times as much as they would have if the missiles\nwould not have moved. We are embarking on a tougher policy in the\nMiddle East. The Sixth Fleet is going to be beefed up. I was having\nan argument with Kissinger who thinks we blew it in Jordan. We will\nintervene if the situation is such that our intervention will make a\ndifference. Chicago Sun Times is saying as as a lead that it was learned\ntoday from high sources that the U. S. will intervene in Jordan if the\nSyrians or Iraquis move. I know what the editors were told, but I don't\nknow how they will write it.\nK: What does he mean that I thought we blew it in Jordan. I have been\nraising hell with him along the lines that we have been behaving and that\nJordan was about to blow.\nS: This is a senior man's notes of what the President told them.\nK: Was Lisagor there?\nS: I don't know. We will get this around the world in just a few minutes.\nK: I think the Secretary of State is going to have a bloody heart attack.\nS: We passed this along to State Rogers and Sisco.\nK: God help us. Those fools at State think I am putting him up to it. It\ndoesn't give me any pain.\nfeg\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nThe President\n9/17/70 2:40 p.m.\nK: The situation in Jordan seems to be picking up.\nP: Good.\nK: The Fedayeen are being smashed in the area right next to\nIraqi troops and they aren't doing a thing. The Jordanian army has\nmoved itself between the Fedayeen.\nP: When I met the new citizens there were 8 or 10 Jewish people\nin the group. I said some of us are American citizens by accident of\nbirth; some because they choose to be. But I said once you are an\nAmerican citizen, there are no degrees. All have the same privileges;\nall have the same responsibilities.\nK: That's good.\nP: I think it was good. It hits the idea of dual nationality. I said\nthere is no such thing as dual nationality but anybody who flies an Amer-\nican plane deserves the protection of the American government. And I\nbelieve that.\nK: You know how pessimistic I have been about the peace offensive,\nbut I think the lest week or so strengthens our chances.\nP: Now we have somebody to negotiate with if this works.\nK: We never had a good occasion to show strength in this area.\nP: As I said this morning, as far as the facts are concerned, the\nstrategic interests of the U.S. require that we move carriers, which we\nare doing without announcing it. But it's good for us that they have those\nhostages because it makes our movement more credible to the Russians.\nK: I agree. We are moving the third carrier in there; it wasn't sup-\nposed to go until November. ***** And that's a tremendous shot in the\narm for our NATO allies. I was just brought a cable- [Mr. Kissinger\nthen read a cable which began with the idea that the Iraqi army had\nmoved away from its best position. ]\nP: The main thing is, there's nothing better than a little confrontation\nnow and then, a little excitement. Bob and I were just talking. sts it's\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nThe President\n9/17/70 2:40 p.m. page 2\nprobably a good thing those students were there last night.\nK: Otherwise they'd have said you were in a safe audience. Mr.\nPresident, I don't like to bother you with these details but on the trip\nin Ireland it turns out the place of origin of your family is close to\nBublin.\nP: That's right.\nK: If you were prepared to meet with Bruce late Sunday we &\ncould go to Mulkahey (?) on Saturday afternoon. You'd stay two nights\nwith Mulkahey, Monday you could do your family place and the govern-\nmeht and arrive back in good TV time. The Irish Ambassador said\nanything we want they'll do.\nP: But he thinks we should call on them.\nK: Absolutely. I had the impression he would prefer Monday.\nP: Okay, let's do it Monday. Let's leave bothø the meetings open.\nK: Okay, we'll schedule Bruce for 4:00 or 5:00 on Sunday.\nP: Find.\nK: And Lodge wants to come to the Vatican.\nP: That's all right.\nK: But I wil 1 tell him to get over by himself so we don't arrive\nwith such a tremendous party.\nP: I think he should go over to prepare a little and talk to everybody,\nand then he can help escort me around.\nK: Okay, we are staying in government guest houses in\nand Belgrade and the Spanish want you to do that there.\nP: Okay. How about Heath?\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nThe President\n9/17/70 2:40 p.m. page 3\nK: Heath, you will chopper to Checquers, You can meet with him\nbefore lunch, have a working lunch and then meet with him again after\nlunch.\nR: Good. What about Mrs. Nixon?\nK: They are checking the Queen's schedule to see whether she will\nbe in residence anywhere close by.\nP: It would be nice for her to just call on her.\nK: They are usually in the north at that time. But they are trying\nto arrange the schedule.\nP: We don't want anything special done. It's not an official visit.\nK: Mrs. Annenberg has arranged for her to chopper to London too.\nP: That might be just as nice. I won't see the Embassy residence\nthen?\nK: No, it's technically impossible.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nSecretary Rogers/Mr. Kissinger\nSeptember 17, 1970\n11:30\n9.\nm.\njlj\nR: I just talked with Bob McCloskey who said that Ron Ziegler was\ngoing to point out that we had a WSAG meeting last night. I think we\nshould say that we have been in close touch with the President but\nnot announce the meeting\nK: It was a uxxxx unanimous opinion last night that we would announce\nit.\nR: That we not announce\nK: Do announce\nR: Joe, [apparently turning to Mr. Sisco] he said that it was the\nunanimous opinion to announce the meeting. That wasn't my impression\nBetter if we would answer a question asking if we had a meeting\nrather than making the announcement.\nK: Mention it in passing.\nR: It would seem to be a better way of handling it. It is import to\npoint out that we have been in close contact on it with the President\nand are on top of the situation but that we are not getting hysterical\nabout the situation or making rash judgments.\nK: That is clear guidance. You and I in close touch. Both in touch\nwith the President.\nR: We should have a careful line. Everyone knows what is going on\nand all are alert not any feeling that we are being rash which would be\ncounter-productive Would be bad for the King.\nK: I couldn't agree with you more. We talked about it last night. I\nagreed with you. This was a marginal decision to me. At any rate,\nI will make sure we just treat it as an answer to a question.\n[Note: Mr. Kissinger asked that General Haig be given the above so\nthat he could pass it on to Ron Ziegler. Both were done. Mr. Kissinger\nsaid to make sure that a question in this regard was asked. ]\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nX-15\nTelecon\nThe President\n9/17/70 9:45 a. m.\nK: I wanted to mention a piece of information connected with\nVietnam. The Viet Cong made a proposal\nP: I just called Bill and told him you and I had talked. His point\nis well taken too--at the present time we want our moves to be open\nbut we don't want Jordan to look like a puppet. I am not too xk sure\non that; I'm more interested in the effect on the Russians than on\nIraq and Syria.\nK: The aircraft carrier Guam was supposed to leave Friday\nmorning, but instead we are moving it out Thursday night.\nP: From where?\nK: Norfolk.\nP: Let's get them out. If we are going in for a strike it is not\ngoing to be for nothing. We've got enough 52s with bombs in Europe,\ndon't we?\nK: No, but we can get them over.\nP: Okay. I don't see this as just an exercise. If we hit we hit with\neverything we've got. I want a plan available so it's a massive strike--\nit's mainly psychological. Okay, go ahead with Paris.\nK: One other thing in connection with the Middle East first,\nMoorer says we could get a third carrier in within a week. Xxxxx It\nwould be a strong move.\nP: Put it in. We're going there; I want to see a formidable display\nout there anyway.\nK: Okay. About Vietnam, the Viet Cong have made some proposals\ntoday that are still not in acceptable form to us but do conform to what\nthey saidto me. If we were to promise withdrawal by June 30, they say\nthey would stop military action against them. It's a sort of half-baked\ncease-fire proposal; it means they would give up their 6-month deadline.\nAlso they are notusaying they will deal with any Saigon government that\ndoesn't include Thieu, Ky and Thiem. We still have the problem that\nyou identified but before they said they wouldn't negotiate with anybody.\nThey just may not be able to make a proposal we can accept,\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nThe President\n9/17/70 9:45 a.m. page 2\nP: And they may be waiting for their meeting with you.\nK: That's right. But they are confirming publicly what they told\nme privately- - so they weren³t just stringing me along.\nP: Let's keep waiting a little while.\nK: Yes, the 7th of October is still three weeks from now, and the\nMiddle East will blunt the headlines on this.\nP: That's/ right.\nK: Finally, Bunder talked with Ky, offering him a dinner, and\nsaid he thinks Ky will finally agree not to come.\nP: That just postpones it.\nK: At the press today we low-keyed the immediate crisis. The\nRussians will pick it up.\nP: Right. I won't say anything out here.\nK: Bill thinks holding them responsible for the hostages is xexx\nvery important.\nP: That's right. You know the TWA pilot said the Americans are\nout of the city.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nMr. Kissinger/Ambassador Freeman (UK)\nSeptember 17, 1970 7:55 p.m.\njlj\nK: I do not know if you have heard any of the press reports from Chicago.\nThe President's two backgrounders are rather explosive headlines associated\nwith them. I know no more than you because it was not previously planned.\nHeadlines that say Soviets made biggest mistake in missile buildup in\nXXX Middle East. 5 times as much support as the Israelis wanted. That\nthe King cannot and there are only the Israelis and the United States to keep\nthat from happening. That going to the XXXXXXXX Mediterranean is a show\nfx of force. Many things that we are doing. I called because I do not want\nyour people to panic there.\nF: This was an unscripted occasion?\nK: Unscripted and just for your information caught us a little short here.\nIt reflects the thinking here obviously.\nnot opening shot.\nF: I will try to get some sort of message to my people in London.\nK: Do you have any Kennedy thoughts? [referring to Sec. of Treas. Kennedy]\nF: I have been waiting for two reasons. Chancellor has been away for 36 hours.\nThere is alarm in Treasury. I do not know what the answer will be. Treasury\nthinks it is ill advised.\nspecial trip to London at this time. I know what\nTreasury is saying in London. I know what papers are going up but I do not\nknow what the answer may be.\nK: Secretary's level. Who is plagueing me.\nF: I am being slightly unhelpful. I would think US Treasury too would have\nsome serious problems with it.\nK: Bureaucratic issues.\nF:\ndifficulty you are in. I know what submissions are going up.\nK: You can't carry them in the way I do occasionally.\nF: Rather further away than you are.\nK: Do you have anything on the First Ladyes?\nF: It may be 24 to 36 hours. We are really trying to work something\nout that will be useful, Along the lines we discussed.\nK: Treasury.\n(?)\nmay be difficult for me personally.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n-2-\nX F: When I have got something I will tell you.\nK: I am not pushing. Just thought your spokesman could be dampened down.\nany prospects. - on the backgrounders.\nF: I will do that at once.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nMr. Kissinger/Secretary Rogers\nSeptember 17, 1970 8:30 p.m.\njlj\nK: Joe, this afternoon, when he was over for the WSAG meeting said he\nhad a scheme to get the talks moving again. Without going into it. In\ngeneral that she be ready to talk\nI am constantly awed by his\nintellect.\nR: What he had in mind\nK: I mean that as no criticism. He comes up with more schemes than\nanybody I know. He is always thinking.\nR: He has a good group of people. Tentative way\nIf she shows any\ninclination\ncold proposition. Have you heard anything from the plane?\nI thought maybe Ron Ziegler would call.\nK: I checked and we did nXX no briefing books. I know you were just kidding.\nR: I was just joking. I will have to NXMX label my cracks.\nK: I know you were joking. Just heard that we did hear from Ziegler.\nHe got the intervention thing dropped completely. But I heard that\nLisagore was running around town spreaking rumors.\nR: Did you hear about you. They quoted you as saying\nDid you\nhear that?\nK: I just said that someone XXXXXX garbled it. You and I both agreed.\nThat the chances of\nAssuming the editor cut it\nR: If he got intervention out of there it's OK about strengthening the\n6th Fleet. Fine how he feels about the Mediterranean.\nK; If he got talking about the missiles out of there.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nMr. Kissinger\nSecretary Rogers\n9/17/70; 9:15 p. m.\nR: The meeting tomorrow, I assume it's still Al Haig and Sisco,\nThe President doesn't plan to have either you or I? If he changes\nhis mind, please let me know. I think it would be a mistake if he\nhad you and not me.\nK: You can be absolutely sure that I am not going. If he does call\nme, I won't want to go.\nR: Are you going to the meeting tomorrow?\nK: I thought it was canceled.\nR: Oh!\nK: They (Golda Meir) had asked for a private meeting with me and\nI refused it.\nR: Have you gotten any more on the stories?\nK: The President is calling me, I'll call you back.\n9/17/70; 9:30 p.m.\nK: He (President) isn't really sure of what has happened. Let's see\nhow the stories play. I told him that we are all together that we\nare all agreed on the main outline. On the Middle East, I won't\npermit the Israelis to play you and me against each other. I have\nrefused to see Golda Meir at all tomorrow and there can be no\npossible change. Even if the President asks me, I will refuse.\nI told him (President) there had been some stories coming out.\nHe said he tried to stick to the basic line. He has been quite euphoric\na little like the Pentagon visit, I mentioned few of the stories to\nhim and he said they must have leaked out of some of the remarks\nmade to the media yesterday. That's embargoed until Sunday -- some\nmay come out of it. It was a very good thing -- I will send you the\ntranscript. He was eloquent.\nR:\nB ut that was supposed to be off the record.\nK: Yes. My understanding is that today's was supposed to be off\nthe record, also.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nMr. Kissinger\nSecretary Rogers\n9/17/70; 9:15 p.m.\n-2-\nR: I guess you got the same\nK: (Laughter) Yes, he must have at some point said I want that printed.\nR: Like Martha Mitchell on the plane the other night. After a couple\nof drinks she said there was something she wanted used in the paper\nAs long as it doesn't cause trouble and this may not.\nK: It may do some good in bringing home to the Soviets that our\npatience is wearing thin.\nR: Once we decide on something, I don't care what the hell the decision\nis -- I have trouble calling the signals one way and running the play\nthe other.\nK: The strategy is that when you are winning it is better not to say\na hell of a lot.\nR: Actually, I am fairly relaxed about mistakes we make -- but I do\nhave trouble calling the play\nK: I will do my damnedest to make sure that you get a warning of\nanything I see so that you will be aware of it. You can see why the\nPresident got carried away. He made it sound like it was just an\ninformal session.\nfeg\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nX-19\nMr. Kissinger/Secretary Laird\nSeptember 17, 1970 7:45 p.m.\njlj\nK: Mel, Have you heard the President's backgrounder in Chicago today?\nWell Mel, you have to move that carrier.\nL: I already signed that thing\nK: No I was just kidding. The President's backgrounder was a Wasxerx\nwhopper. We told him to say nothing. He said the Soviets made their\nworst mistake in building up missiles in the Middle East. We are going\nto give the Israelis 5 times as much as he had planned. The King cannot\nfall. It is better for us to go in. Reinforcing fleet in Mediterranean.\nGoing to Mediterranean to show [strength]. This may blow the Yugoslav\ntrip. It's a tough line if you want the tough line.\nL:\nThe only reason I wanted you\nK: I will raise that issue with him. He will call me when he gets in tonight.\nI just\nwanted you to know from me I had no inkling whatsoever of what he was\ngoing to say. We prepared no briefing books for him. I thought it was going\nto be a bull session.\nL: Is it on the wires?\nK: I understand that it is being played big in the Chicago Sun Times. I have\nnot seen it and only have had someone read it to me,\nL: It would be a big story out there.\nK: All the departments should stick together on this. I just talked with\nBill and we agreed that we should say nothing. The President's remarks\nspeak for themselves.\nL: I had better get my public affairs people together tonight.\nK: I know that some of you feel strongly about this but I think we must hold\ntogether on this.\nPackard and Praeger [I told Packard and Praeger\nabout the line developing] that line developing was quite different than\nthat.\nL: I just left Dave.\nK: I was out for an hour this afternoon and when I got back and Haig told\nme I thought he was joxmyx pulling my leg. I think I should call the British\nand warn them what is going to break.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nL: I think you sho Henry. It would startle then 00 much, You ought\nto call. I think we had better go ahead and talk with them.\nK: That was the mood he had, [Referring to the mood of the President. ]\nI did not think he was going to do it.\nL:\nXeXxxxgXrX seeing stories of wives and XXXXXXX families\nK; We can wait,\nHe will undoubtedly call me when he comes in. If\nhe is in a mood to run it by I will talk to him.\nL: I am ready to go (?) it. I only thought\nK: You did the right thing Mel. You did exactly the right thing.\nL: Go now and then blow a little later.\nK: You did exactly the right thing Mel.\nL: Henry, about this trip to the Mediterranean, How are things going to\nwork out?\nK: What he was wondering was\nXIXXX\nYou\ngo out with the military people in your plane. Meet MXXXXX in Rome and\ngo out to the Fleet with him,\nL: I think it would be better if I would go with him. We would have the\nmilitary meet us with the Fleet. They can take my plane and then I would\ncome back with them. I think it would be strange if I did not go with him.\nK: I agree with you.\nL: Tom Moorer feels that way.\nK: I will check it out.\nL: No problem?\nK: Well, the Italians are not too eager to have talks on the Defense level.\nL: We can finesse that.\nK: If you can finesse it.\nL: I have a friend with the Italian Defense\nK: Why don't you meet separately with him. What is his name?\nL: Tanessi (phonetic).\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nK: If you could meet separately with him that would solve it.\nL: He is going to Chair the meeting of Defense Ministers in October and\nI could talk to him. European Defense Ministers are going to be meeting\nin Brussels on this burden sharing.\nXXX K: I will talk to Haldeman. [re trip and Laird going with President. ]\nI do not see any problem on that.\nL: Then Wednesday I will come back.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nThe President/ Mr. Kissinger\nSeptember 17, 1970 9:30 p.m.\njlj\nP: Anything new?\nK: King seems to be in pretty good shape. It\nhas been night there since about 2 o'clock.\nP: They probably won't do anything at night. The Russians are really stewing\nright now. Woul dn't you say? As you probably heard I put in a little squibb\ntoday.\nK: The backgrounders are beginning to break in the East now.\nP: The stakes are high and we are not looking at this as a little\nlet them\nK: Might as well/kno W what chips are in the pot.\nP: I agree with you in how to handle the Soviets is with cool detachment.\nI was wrong before. You are completely right. Do not warn them. They\nthink you are bluffing. Just move\nI want Helms to know that I think\nhe should get some confused traffic out about ship movements.\nK: I must tell you Mr. President that moving the Kennedy we have had\nto cancel shore leave for *he xxxxxxx most of the crew.\nP: That's all right. Shore leave is not all that easy. We will give them\ndouble the leave next time.\nK: When the Soviets see the Kennedy come through the Straits of XXXX\nGibraltor and\n44\nrelinges\nP: They will know that we are ready to do something. / ????? Makes\nthem think we might do something.\nK: You have the events leading to the highjacking - they have been a net\nloss for the Soviets. Concentrating on other things.\nP: King has been informed that we will support him?\nK: Yes. By the way, Ambassador Brown has done a very good job,\nP: That meeting with him helped him.\nK. You told him he was going to where the action was. He has been very\ncoolheaded.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nP: Bureaucracy is all together on this one? Bill knows that the peace\noffensive is based on Jordan.\nK: Yes, everyone is pulling together. I am more optimistic about the\npeace offensive - if it works\nP: About this visit tomorrow. We have to handle it with resolve. Don't\nwant Meir going out and saying that we will go into Jordan. I made it\nclear in my backgrounder. thax It would be fatal to the King if the\nIsraelis came in andalmost\n[Paraphrased the President said it\nwouldn't be very good if PM Meir walked out tbx of the meeting and said\nthat they were going to move into Jordan. ] Jordan has to be strengthened\nto scare off Iraquies and Syrians.\nK: It gave us an opportunity\nI talked to Rabin for 2 minutes today\nand told him [to cXXXIX keep it cool. ]\nP: Who is setting in tomorrow.\nK: Sisco, Haig, Eban. I think it would be good if after the meeting you\nwould let the others go and stays spend 20 minutes with Meir. At least\nthen she could say that she had a private meeting with you.\nP: Yes, you told me.\nThe reception in Chicago was good today. We went\naround the streets.\nQuite a reaction to the speech.\nK: Yes, excellent. Comments and what I have read were good. The\neditors thing went well yesterday. Today was good too. Jordan thing\ngood for us.\nP: Appear like quite a crisis but we lanced the boil and now\nThe King is doing well?\nK: Yes. About relaunching the peace initiative. I think we should take\na longer look at the scenario. I think we should know where we are going\nand not be wishy washy] when we relaunch it. When\nyou meet with Meir tomorrow do not urge any particular course of action.\nP: The visit should not strengthen Hussains enemy's position. I wish we\ncould do something publicly in support of the King.\nK: I do not think that he is eager for too much publicity. He knows that\nwe have planes available.\nP: For strikes?\nK: To carry in weapons if he needs them.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nP: We also have airplanes to strike. I want Europe mobilized in readiness.\nIf we do I want (strike he is talking about) to hit massively. Not XXXXX\njust little pinpricks. I want them to know we are hell bent for election.\nK: If the King's military situation is as good as he thinks there is no problem.\nThis afternoon they were hitting a commando unit in the middle of an Iraqu\nunit and the Iraqis did nothing. Nasser has not said anything. That is the\nmost support he could give Hussain.\nP: Are the Soviets saying anything?\nK: Nothing.\nP: I think this visit to the Sixth Fleet is good don't you?\nK; The visit to the 6th Fleet is very good. Marvin Kalb says it is\na master stroke. He is Jewish, but he thinks XX it was a very good move.\nP: Well, that's all right. We want him with us. He thinks it was a master\nstroke? What did he say?\nK: We are committed to the Middle East. [HAK went into long talk on our\nMiddle East policy and what we wanted there.\n]\nP: I gave a hard thrust. I told the edótorial boards today. The Russians\nknow that if they moved they had us to deal with.\nK: Salutory. If some of this stuff leaks it will be fine. It is not an Arab/\nIsraeli conflict. Israeli should not be alone in this,\nP: That is what I said yesterday\nK: [if the bureaucracy ever understands ? ? ? ] [importance of Middle East. ]\nP: I said look where without support of Soviet Union to Syria/Iraq?\nIf you want to see if it matters why are they building up a Fleet?\nK: And we have no reliable land basès there.\nP: I know that. And did you hear about my statement on Greece and Spain.\nThey may not like them but they are our people.\nK: Very strong statement. But on this Jordan thing the bureaucracy was\npulling together. I think this thing is coming out well.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nP: What about what the Viet Cong said in Paris? Du you think there is a\nchange?\nK: It is a small sign.\nThey\nhave\nextended the period of withdrawal that they X said to meet. Might want\nto only talk about withdrawal to us and military withdrawal] to Saigon. That\nis what we want. That is what I have to clarify on the 27th. The K fact\nthat they presented a proposal is good. I got a letter from Bruce. Very\nintellectual letter, MXXXXXXXX In reply to my minutes of the meeting which\nI sent to him.\nP: NX Understood it, did he?\nK: Yes, He is willing to bore others as they are boring him. He is a fine\nfellow. Very good.\nP: He is the best man we have had over there so far. How is he? Feeling\nall right?\nK: Yes, he seems to be fine. [ I am going openly over there. Leaving on\nSaturday to see him in preparation of your coming over.\n]\nP: You won't even need a cover. It's great.\nK: Would you want me to stop and give Pompidou a little briefing?\nP; Yes, I think that would be good. You could tell him you have a personal\nmessage from me. I want you to call Lucet and tell him that tomorrow.\nThe street crowds in Chicago were good. I cameout of the Chicago Sun-Times\nBuilding and there were 50XXXXXXXXX hard hats - 50 stories up.\nK: If there were national elections today it would be a landslide. Even press is cor\naround. You have held your course through so many visitudes (?)\nXXX and even the press respects you for it. They are not affectionate,\nbut they respect you. [\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nJoe Sisco\n9/18/70 8:00 a. m.\nK: On that cable to Teheran, the President wanted to put our\nthinking to the Shah too. He can't go back to the Shah afterward and\nsay \"That is what we thought; now what do you think?'\nS: I gave instructions for you to clear it. Let me find out who\ncleared it in the White House.\nK: The President has a strong feeling about the Shah. Can't we\njust give him some guidance.\nS: Yes, that's easy enough.\nK: Is it still going to be in time or has he already seen him?\nS: I don't know--let me check.\nK: Okay. And in that meeting, we are not going to twise any\narms on negotiations today are we?\nS: You saw the papers. I am meeting with the Secretary in\n20 minutes. If there's been any change I'll have him call you.\nK: Okay.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nLaird/Kissinger\nmorning\n9/18/70\nE: The President called to thank you for your help. The President wants you on\nACxx AF-1. You will meet the military people in Rome or on the ship would be\nbest. That wey they have no visibility. You can decide if you want to meet with yo\nDefense counterpart.\nL: Let's keep that open.\nK: The advisor meetings are usually bores.\nL: Alone we will get more business.\nK: We will be glad to have you in the big meeting but you will hate it. The\nsecond thing, the President wants you, after the fleet exercise, to visit Greece\nand Turkey. It seems invidious to visit the Mediterranean and not visit them.\nHave you been there?\nL: Yes, I have visited bases in Turkey and visited Greece.\nK: Plan a day in each place. I will be there tomorrow.\nL: It will be nice because it's a good group.\nK: Now that I have learned that wives will be there.\nL: Yes because you are such a women's man.\nK: I heard about your performance at Georgetown Club.\nL: I have both a secure phone and anouther line. Chicago wasn't bad.\nK: They killed the inflammatory part. The Jordanian exercises have given us\nmanuevering room.\nL: Shows movement towards settlement on part of Egypt and Jordan.\nK: Certainly on the part of Jordan and possibly on the part of Egypt.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n**\nTelecon\nX-27\nSecretary Rogers\n9/18/70 3:30 p.m.\nR: I got a call from Senator Russell--you!ll probably be getting one-\nsaying he was opposed to any involvement of any American troops in any-\nthirdiciexthe stress in the Middle East. I wanted the President to know that.\nHe said he would fight it with all the strength at his command. Money and\nmateriel are different, but anything involving men he is unalterable opposed to.\nK: I will get that to him immediately. That's very helpful- - it will\nbog it down a bit. I will pass that word on.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nFrankel/Kissinger\n6:04 p.m.\n9/18/70\nF: Two points I want to bring up.\nK: Since they won't let me MX expel the Soviets from the M. E., I am pretty\nrelaxed,\nF: We have two separate stories. The flap about the Chicago Sun Times.\nK: I wasn't there.\nF: What axex our guys say is that the substance of the story is correct but that\nthe President didn't want it out. I thought I would bounce that off you. The seco\npoint was what was the mood with Madame Meir today? They have been singing\na bitter song about State.\nK: After the meetings?\nF: No. Going into the meetings they said the President WX is the President\nand that's something else and she can deal with him.\nK: Now what are they saying?\nF: We can't get to them fast enough but her tone is pretty sanguine. The sheer\nwords\nK: What is she sanguine about?\nF: Support and hearing at the WH.\nK: She has no problems with the President. They are an unlikely pair but he\nhas an enourmous respect for her.\nF: How did the policy discussions go?\nK: I think there was certainly no tension.\nF: She didn't come in demanding thus and so?\nK: No, it was a constructive meeting.\nF: What do I do about the other story. Let it ride?\nK: I would play it down. But you haven't always followed my advice and you ma\nhave different objectives then I.\nF: You are a truth teller too.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nFrankel/Kissinger\n6:04 p.m.\n9/18/70\n-2-\nK: I waan't there and therefore I cannot tell you what he did say.\nF: The point is that regardless of what he did with the editors, what's coming\nout is that what's happening in Iręq and Syria we are prepared to do more than\nwe are now. That in the papers 24 hours later carries weight.\nK: You have seen our statement today and I wouldn't go beyond that.\nThere are no fixed plans I just would not go beyond that. There's no fixed\ndetermination what to do in given circumstances.\nF: OK. Thank you.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nNIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS PROJECT\nDOCUMENT CONTROL RECORD\nITEM REMOVED FROM THIS FOLDER\nMANDATORY REVIEW REQUEST NLN 05-03/12 2pp.\nExempted per see. 3.3(b)(1)(6) 8/13/07 Hr.\nA RESTRICTED DOCUMENT OR CASE FILE HAS BEEN REMOVED\nFROM THIS FILE FOLDER. FOR A DESCRIPTION OF THE ITEM\nREMOVED AND THE REASON FOR ITS REMOVAL, CONSULT\nDOCUMENT ENTRY NUMBER\n4\nON EITHER THE\nDOCUMENT WITHDRAWAL RECORD (GSA FORM 7279 OR NA\nFORM 14021) OR NARA WITHDRAWAL SHEET (GSA FORM 7122)\nLOCATED IN THE FRONT OF THIS FILE FOLDER.\nNATIONAL ARCHIVES AND RECORDS ADMINISTRATION\nNLN Form 101 (revised 3/04)\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nGovernor Rockefeller\nMr. Kissinger\n9/19/70, 8:20 a. m.\nR:\nMy heart is with you. Happy is here and sends her love. I\nam going to see Golda Meir.\nK:\nI know. I put in a little word. They were all for it. They\ndid not need much. I think they have handled it.\nR:\nI thank you very much. I wanted to get any counsel or advice\nyou might have. I am seeing her tomorrow.\nK:\nI think she is fairly satisfied with her talk with the President.\nI think her enthusiasm for some of the others is not as\npronounced.\nR:\nWas Rogers in the talks?\nK:\nNo, he saw her separately twice. I think the talks with the\nPresident went fairly well. I believe she is leaving in a better\nframe of mind than when she arrived, I think you should\nkeep the line we talked about.\nR:\nThanks to your keeping me from going off the line I have been\ngetting a tremendous response up here.\nK:\nWell, you did not need any convincing on that. She refuses\nto negotiate unless Egypt pulls back some of those missiles.\nR:\nAny progress on that,\nK:\nNo, not even any significant attempt. If the King of Jordan\nwins then events of the last week are a plus because it gave\nus an opportunity for a show of strength which was badly needed\nand the Soviets who have been insolent on violations have been very\ngentle on this one since we started moving forces in there. If\nthe King collapses, I find it hard to imagine how the Israelis\ncan be kept out but I am now talking about things that will evolve\nover a period of weeks, I think for the immediate future it will\nbe an uneasy stalemate.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n- -2-\nR:\nThe Arab Army is fighting?\nK:\nThey stop in the afternoon because no Arab fights at night\nand about two hours before they stop the Jordanians always\noffer a cease-fire to get the people to come over. They\nare proceeding at a stately pace. They are not fighting\nwith wild abandon.\nR:\nWell Henry, thank God for you. We lost months of valuable\ntime because of this stupid diversionary. Well Henry, on a\nhappier note, Happy had lunch with Christina and I am jealous.\nShe says she is coming down to see you.\nK:\nOh, she did say she was coming down?\nR:\nYes. Henry, you are great. We will be seeing you. Thank\nyou for letting me break in.\nmlh\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nSecretary Johnson (State)/Mr. Kissinger\nSeptember 19, 1970 12:20 p.m.\njlj\nJ: Henry, have you seen this flash from Amman in which the King is\nasking for hospitals. I think the nearest we have undoubtedly is Germany.\nI thought I would send a flash back and say of course we would do everything\nwe could and ask NxecKxinx has the King approached ICRC? We would like\nto get an ICRC umbrella in there.\nK: Yes, I have seen it. Haig brought it in and he is going to call Sisco\non it. with the same ideas, Our minds are scrotkingx running along the same\nlines. I told Haig that we would like a multi-lateral umbrella but we\nshould not hold up too long in order to organize it.\nJ: I'll tell them that we are taking all measures that we can.\nK: Yes, of course. Multi-laterally with the ICRC or with - jointly\nwith Germany and France who I understand they also asked.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified."
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