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UNIVERSITY OF MISSOURI
COLUMBIA
DEPARTMENT OF CHEMISTRY
December 10, 1928
Mr. H. H. Barker
United States Radium Corporation
535 Pearl Street
New York, New York
My dear Howard:
Your letter of December 8 has just come to hand and I shall
take just a moment to tell you about the difference between your value and my
value in the amount of radium required to liberate the radon which we reported
for Dr. Flinn's subject. In explanation of the discrepancy, let me quote the
paragraph from the letter to Dr. Flinn which will, I think, clear up the matter.
"Your letter of the 27th giving experimental data obtained on
the girl which you tested for radioactivity has just come to hand. I note that
the girl is rather low in activity by the gamma ray method, and your test on Nov-
ember 27 is lower than the one made in June. I have made some approximate cal-
culations of the radium content of the subject of November 27. The value is ap-
proximately four micrograms by the gamma ray test. The expired air test seems
to be perfectly definite also. Assuming a constant for the instrument of 7.3
X 10⁻⁹ and assuming further that the volume of air contained in the chamber is
2.7 liters, I find that the expired air from this subject contains about 15. X
10-12 curies per liter, and if we assume that it takes 15 seconds to blow a liter
of air through the instrument, then it follows that non emanation continuously
expired corresponds to about half a microgram of radium."
Please note that I have assumed that it takes 15 seconds to
blow a liter of air through the instrument while you are assuming that the air
in the chamberwould be expired in 18 seconds. I am assuming that it would be
expired in 45 seconds. Your assumption is based upon the relations which we
have assumed up to this time but in the expèriments which I have conducted here
recently, I have always timed myself and I find that in blowing air through the
chamber
sample in series with a drying train that one does not breathe as fast as in
normal breathing. I found that it takes about 15 seconds to expire a liter of
air in the set-up which I make use of. I determined this by finding the time
required to expire six liters of air which I caught in a 6 liter flask filled
with water inverted in a pneumatic trough. I found it took a minute and a
half to displace the water and I tried to duplicate the rate of blowing just as
I did in blowing the expired air through the drying train and the chamber of the
electroscope. I therefore feel that your point about using the Douglass bag
is a very good one and that we should use the Doublass bag in making tests upon
expired air. I may add, too, that our Douglass bag outfit has come to hand
fully equipped with valves and stopcocks.
UNIVERSITY OF MISSOURI
COLUMBIA
DEPARTMENT OF CHEMISTRY
- 2 -
H. H. BARKER
One point more--I have now trained myself to breathe more
easily in making expired air tests and I think that I can have trained myself to
breathe almost normally while forcing the air through the chamber, but I believe
that most persons when they are asked to blow air into the ionization chamber
take deep and long breaths allowing 15 seconds per liter of air for nearer the
correct figure than 18 seconds for three liters.
We received notice this afternoon that classwork will end
at four o'clock today and will not be resumed until January 3. We have more
cases of "flu" than the local hospital can handle.
My second series of experiments is nearing completion. I
hope to render report by the end of the week if all goes well.
Sincerely yours,
Herman Schlundt
Herman Schlundt.
HS
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