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with well Andrea Kane 11/03/2000 11:51 AM Record Type: Record To: Brenda Aguilar/OMB/EOP@EOP CC: margy waller/opd/eop@eop, kristin e. sneed/omb/eop@eop, debra j. bond/omb/eop@eop Subject: Re: WtW Revisions A few follow-up questions/comments: p. 14, last graph: why drop reference to 4 purposes of TANF ? how did DOL come out on the issue of individuals who are needy but served under purposes 3 and 4 where state doesn't have to set income eligibility? p. 29, new sentence: revise as follows "We also removed the reference to to emphasize that IDAs IDA's established in accordance with the statutory purposes or uses of TANF or WtW requirements are allowable WtW activities." This is more consistent with what we agreed to. p. 52, 1st graph: "Fy" should be "FY" p. 53, 1st graph: question to OMB: just want to make sure that we agreed to just leave performance measures discussion as is, and clarify that substantive employment meant 30 or more hours at placement in the reporting requirements. Is that your recollection? p. 68 ( two references in 3rd graph), p. 71 (2nd graph), p. 114 [645.212(c)(2)(ii) and (iii): DOL, pls help us understand why you're leaving "benefits and services" in this context, while you've switched back to "assistance" elsewhere. p. 74: Just to make sure we understand how this works, does this mean that grantees must use either: 1) the defn of income in the 1st graph or 2) proxy income test where either a) the program used as proxy is limited to individuals below the poverty line or b) the program includes people with higher income but the individual/family is below povery level? More specifically, we recommend adding to the end of the 2nd sentence in 1st graph: "and other amounts specifically excluded by any other Federal statute for consideration as income". This would cover things like food stamps that are not cash. Also, what about non-cash items such as child care? In the context of this paragraph, we assume this would not be considered income and most grantees probably would too, but there could be confusion where TANF funds are used to pay for such things. p. 75, 1st graph: "suffices" should be "suffice" On the 70/30 issue, I'm fine with the policy and support the flexibility and common-sense approach DOL is trying to promote. However, I think the write-up begs the question of how DOL will enforce. For example, what does it mean to "not quite spend all of its grant funds"? The graph beginning "We see this change. implies that DOL will make some kind of subjective judgement about the grantees intent and their efforts. Will this simply be reflected in monitoring reports/TA efforts or will there be any consequences if a grantee falls far short of expenditure goals and doesn't appear to have made a good faith effort?