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The President
1/30/70 7:12 p.m.
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P: I tried to
a few bullets, and on ABM--there's going to
have to be some discipline, or we may have to fire somebodh. If he
doesn't want to play ball, out with him. I may put in Dewey.
[K laughed. ]
P: I'm serious. He'd run a tight ship. Smith is just plain disloyal.
K: Smith is a lobbyist for one point of view.
P: I said we had examined it and should go forward.
K: I think it was important to state your policy, and it should stop
that wailing. Smith has that advisory panel in town--they were going to
make another resolution on
.
P: With regard to
, this is unanswerable isn't it? I said
to this fellow we are not talking about Vietnam and Laos; we are talking
about 10 years from now. The point is with regard to China, unless you have
that China could blackmail any country in the Far East.
K: The reasoning is unanswerable. And if India and other countries
are going to get nuclear weapons 15 years from now, we wouldn't want to be at
the mercy of some of these madmen.
P: You might follow with a backgrounder on the Chinese. Say ;the P
is not going to allow a billion Chinese with nuclear weapons and no commun-
ication--that communication part will worry the hell out of the Ruesians.
K: Elliot Richardson had lunch with Dobrynin--he said he is not
worried about area defense.
P: Two things: one, we are going ahead with ABM--I want no more
discussion, and two, with regard to the China problem, we decided what
we are going to do, and we are just going forward with it.
K: I agree.
P: There were five questions out of 18 on ABM.
K: They're cranking up a big campaign.
P: Smith and Rogers will say 'why didn't you say you were taking into
account the peach negotiations
I Bull!
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