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    "ocrText": "Telecon\nThe President\n5/22/70 6:20 p. m. page 3\nEban came up to me and said-- of course he won't say it in public and neither\nwill she--but he said we support what you are doing in Cambodia and we\nunderstand it. We don't want the U.S. to become a helpless giant.\nK: They've worked behind the scenes, we've found that out from\nintercepts.\nP: The guy who would say it publicly would be Rabin. He's very\ntough. I wish he were our general. I think the whole staff should be\naffirmative. They shouldn't be apologetic about the credibility gap--there\nis none. Why are they SO defensive? Or are they so?\nK: When they come to you it's with a problem. And some are\njust shell shocked by the violent attack that's been launched.\nP: When we look back on these two or three weeks, people say if\nonly Kent State hadn't happened, or if only Sihanouk hadn't left. But maybe\nit's best to have it all happen at once. Only then can we develop a coherent\npolicy for things as they are going to be.\nK: People are feeling sheepish over the emotional binge after\nKent State.\nP: What about your call from Vance?\nK: McNamara had said he had been trying to quiet him down and didn't\nsucceed, but he said there's a limit to what I can back off from. He said what\ncan I say.\nP: Did you tell him not to say anything for a change?\nK: I said if there's a conflict between the students and the hard hats,\nthe hard hats are going to win.\nP: Good.\nK: Then I kalke took a crack at Kingman Brewster. I said'I thought\nyour policy was a disaster, but I never said anything against it. I tried to\nhelp you. I He said X the only thing he would say in the next months would be\non ceasefire.\nP: That's okay. I'm not as pessimistic as I was.\nK: I think it's going to be the maxxix making of your Administration."
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