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Mr. Kissinger/Amb. Dobrynin
10:55 a. m. , August 7, 1972
K:
So that you see it. We will say it has no legal force.
D:
Yeah.
K:
It is not a reservation.
D:
Yeah.
K:
And we are construing it only as a support of what has already been
stated to the Soviet side by the Administration as part of the unilateral
interpretation.
D:
Yeah.
K:
So it is not -- So this is where we stand now.
D:
Um-humm. Well, I would like to see this text of course. What you
mentioned right now. But is it really so necessary what was said
government to government to make it public?
K:
No, no; not what's been said government to government. You
remember we transmitted to the Congress the unilateral interpretation?
D:
Yes, I remember.
K:
Those are the ones that are being quoted. Those are already part of
the record. Nothing is being said that is not already a matter of public
record.
D:
But in this way, how will it be? It will be in his a Jackson
amendment then as a particular part of statement which was made
previously or which will be in a statement separate by Administration?
K:
No, it will be a Jackson amendment which we will then say publicly
has no legal force and merely state what is already a matter of the
public record.
D:
Uh-huh. So you will now put it in this way, that it is not a legal
force and so on, yeah?
K:
That is right. What we are saying -- the Jackson amendment does
not constitute a reservation or interpretation to the agreement in any
legal sense.
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