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Ambassador Dobrynin/Mr. Kissinger
5:00 p.m., September 18, 1972
K:
And I, you know, hope it won't come out but if it does come out,
I want you to know how it happened.
D:
Yeah.
K:
I found
D:
with the President?
K:
Yeah.
D:
Yeah.
K:
I'm raising unshirted hell here.
D:
Why don't you control them ? I think you usually have very good
control.
K:
I have a good control, Anatol, of anything that I can imagine
happening. I do not have a good control over things I can't imagine.
D:
Yeah.
K:
This could never have happened if I had known about it.
D:
Yeah, this is the point. You give them too much liberty to do on
their own.
K:
Well, the trouble is, Anatol, I can stop anything I can imagine but
when I don't imagine, you know, I don't prohibit them from assassinating
the President either.
D:
(laughter) Well, I will took a little note about it and mention to
Gromyko.
K:
Well, I want to express my apologies.
D:
Yeah, I understand.
K:
And it is no indication - - it is so stupid that I don't know how to
express it but it may not come out publicly but I wanted you to hear
it from me.
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