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    "ocrText": "SECRET\n- 6 -\nMr. Aguirre de Carcer said that the minutes were at least\na valuable source of reference. Returning to Ambassador Johnson's\nearlier reference to \"peninsular Spain,' he said he had to pro-\ntest the use of that expression which had not been authorized\nby the Spanish National Security Council and he had to insist on\nthe use of the term \"Spain\" in reference to an area of common\nstrategy. During the military talks Spain and the U.S. had\nagreed that there was a threat from the Soviet Union either\ndirectly or by proxy and that in that context it was not possible\nto differentiate between Spain and peninsular Spain.\nThe Under Secretary stated that he recognized this was the\nSpanish view but added that he wanted to make clear what the\nU.S. position was on the matter.\nMr. Aguirre de Carcer stated that with regard to the position\nof Congress, Spain had agreed in 1953 to an executive agreement\nso as to avoid the requirement for Senate consent, but that\nSpain now wanted a full agreement and that it did not fear a full\ndebate in the Senate if it really had to come to that. He said\nthere already was a resolution of the Congress asking the President\nto look for ways and means to make Spain a part of the common\ndefense efforts of the West. Secretary Rusk had referred to it\nand had indicated that the U.S. Government through its ambassadors\nhad occasionally sounded out its NATO partners on the subject of\nSpanish membership, but that their replies had usually been quite\nnegative. He added that Spain had never known for sure if the\nU.S. had told its NATO partners bluntly that it was in the national\ninterests of the U.S. to have Spain admitted into NATO.\nWith regard to the proposed joint military committee he said\nhe did not recall which of the two military representatives had\ninitially suggested it but he felt that as long as it did not\nconstitute an additional commitment on the part of the U.S. to\nthe defense of Spain, and that as long as it did not represent\nany additional financial expenditure to the U.S. he did not see\nhow Congress could possibly object to high level meetings of\nSpanish and American military officers. With regard to using\nthe existing Joint Defense Committee, he felt that first of all\nit had not been used very much and secondly, its main purpose\nSECRET\n[p.6 of 15]\nNLN 04-69/8"
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