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OCR Page 1 of 3THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON
MEMORANDUM OF CONFERENCE WITH THE PRESIDENT
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Cabinet Room, November 19, 1958
Attending: The President, Secretaries McElroy and Anderson, Under
Secretary Herter, Mr. David Finley, Mr. Merriam, Mr.
Hagerty, group of QMC officers, Major John Eisenhower.
Colonel J. D. Martz, QMC, made a fifteen minute presentation on the
design of the flag in past years. This brought out that uniformity of de- -
sign did not exist up until the 20th century. In the early 19th century
President Monroe ordered a uniform design for the military services
but civilian flags continued to feature alternative designs.
The presentation also revealed that the stars have been arranged in many
different patterns but that the most common patterns were (1) a regular
arrangement of stars in horizontal and vertical rows whenever this was
arithmetically possible, and (2) arrangement in staggered rows.
Following the presentation, the President indicated his preference for
a new design of 7 rows of 7 stars each in a staggered arrangement. He
stated that this arrangement was more flexible and would allow greater
uniformity and continuity through the years, since the alternative of
horizontal and vertical rows could be used only occasionally when the
mathematics permitted. He wished to give the general impression
throughout the world of the greatest possible uniformity in our flag from
now on.
Mr. Finley had a personal preference for the non-staggered design but
thought both possibilities were very handsome, and he emphasized as
most important the need for maintaining the relative size of the blue
field. Mr. Herter stated Secretary Dulles' acceptance of either design
so long as there would be 7 rows of 7 stars, staggered or not staggered.
Secretary Anderson and Secretary McElroy both liked the staggered ar -
rangement because it would allow a 50th star to be added with a minimum
of change. The President indicated that he preferred the staggered
arrangement even without taking into consideration the prospect of addi- -
tional stars in the future, for straight rows horizontally and vertically
seemed too stiff.
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