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SECURITY INFORMATION -3 - - implement effectively the treaty. I said this was a matter we were now studying and discussing with the Defense Department and we hoped to have our views developed shortly. Messrs. Pericins and Raynor explained that we hoped to establish in the next week or so a working group on the agenda consisting of representatives of the two Embassies and of the De- partment and that this group could develop proposals on the question of machinery. The Prime Minister concurred and agreed that this subject should be on the agenda of the first meeting and that proposals should be developed which could be put to the Ministers at the first meeting for their consideration. Relationship with NATO The Prime Minister assisted by Ambassador Spender developed again the Australian concept that they should have a right to be heard in NATO when matters directly affecting their interests were under considera- tion. I again questioned, as I had at our previous meeting, the fundamental concept on which this thinking was based, i.e., that NATO did not get isto global questions and etc. Although the Australians in no sense wl. thdrew their request, there was some indication in the conversation that if the new treaty arrangement is developed so that it can discuss wrld-wide questions in addition to questions involving only the Pacific that this might satisfy the Australian position. The matter was left that this question would also be included on the agenda of the first meeting of the Council. DECLASSIFIED B. 11652, Sec. 3(E) and 16.22.75 S(D) O. of State letter, Aug Dept. NLT- HC. NARS Datel 1.24.76 By SECURITI INFORMATION HRavnor : smw

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