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2/13/54, Reel 1, Track 2, Pau 4
DR. FEIS:
You haven't the other draft, or notes on this speech?
MR. ACHESON: No. Not at all.
MR. NITZE:
Didn't the discussions with respect to Formosa precede this speech? At the
defense establishment?
MR. ACHESON:
Yes. They did.
MR. NITZE:
It would seem to me that in those discussions on the subject of Formosa
that
it was made perfectly clear by the military that they did not think they
defend
that if Formosa
could ptblect Formosa; #/# was attacked -- with U.S. Torces --
MR. ACHESON:
That K as Absolutely right.
MR. NITZE:
And that in the same discussions, it was perfectly clear that if they were to
was
attacked against Korea this was even less defensible than/ Formosa. Because
shortly after this speech of yours, I went over to the Joint Strategic Survey
Committee and said that as we understood it the decision that the military had
na de, that they didn't think that Formosa should be defen_ded, was on the
basis of the military importance of Formoaa; and we wanted to ask them a
different question, and tha.t was, if it was of the utmost political importance
that Formosa be defended -- we weren't testing their judgment that it wasn't
be defended
of sufficient s trategic importance to th-te-defend-44 from the military
standpoint, but we thought - that if we were to tell them that this was of
such political importance that there be a defense, could they do it? And
they came back and said that this would be militarily unsound, even if we
toods,
tdld them this was of the utmost political importance Now we did not t ake
up the question of Korea, because it seemed to us that the Formosan position
was much more defensible -- much - militarily a much sounder thing to do.
And if they couldn't do it with respect to Formosa, how could you expect them
to do it with respect to Korea?
THUMAN
MR. GRAHAM:
They still didn't answer your question, did they?
NY NATHONAL A
ADMIY
MR. NITZE:
No, they did answer the question [CONFUSION]
<<s
Mr. braham: They gave you an evasive answer.
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