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Joint Session of Labor and Management Representatives 2:45 P. M. Dr. Steelman and Mr. Stowe met with the same industry representatives and labor representatives that had met with the President at the opening session. Dr. Steelman explained that Mr. Murray had requested a joint conference since garly that morning but the operators had not cared to enter into a joint conference and preferred to write a statement of the situation. Mr. Fairless immediately indicated that there had been no intent that the memorandum handed to Dr. Steelman at his request should be considered as an offer to the union. After this statement Mr. Murray immediately questioned whether or not it was true that all the negotiations that had taken place or might take place were based solely on adequate price relief to the industry. Mr. Fairless replied "We would have to have assurances". Mr. Murray then indicated that he thought the entire proceedings had been rather stupid. He stated that, as he saw it, the industry FRUMAN had only two points - One, the Board recommendations must not be met ARCHIVES -NATIONAL RECORDS ADMING in their entirety and two, the industry was intent on subtracting COUNTRY recommendations as a basis for bargaining. He further indicated that he could see no basis on which they could bargain if all bargaining had to be contingent on some unkmown price grant to the industry. After some rather heated exchanges on Mr. Murray's premises and some strong speeches on free collective bargaining from Mr. Fairless, Mr. Murray then stated "All right, now let's go into collective bargaining". Mr. Murray's thesis was that since he did not care for the Board report any more than the industry did and since the industry felt that

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