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Telecon Elliot Richardson 3/12/70 2:25 p. m. R: I'm trying to get some ideas for this afternoon as to what you thought was likely to come up. K: They didn't get the important papers done. I'm just go- - ing through a series of cats and dogs: freedom to MIGs(?), land mobiles, qualitative restrictions, and nuclear accidents. We have to have a meeting next week on MIRV, ABM and SAM upgrade problem. R: When on negotiating options? K: Next week too. We'll have to have two meetings next week. R: The ABM thing wasn't enough finished? K: They were going to do another. R: I thought that paper that just came in was damn good. K: It was good. We will have some discussion of negotiating options today. R: That would be useful. I am jarred by the discovery in the last 10 days at developments in MIRV and ABM that I didn't understand before. K: Like what? R: On the problem of upgrading an ABM system comparable ben a Soviet threat to the Safeguard system in the US. The upgrade problem is really hairy once you have a system as gig as the one we propose for ourselves. There's the xxxg chance of degxexdix degrad- ing K: What is hair-raising to me is a system as large as they have and to upgrade. R: Before we negotiate ABM levels which give them enough for their area defense comparable to what we want, then the risk of upgrade seems important. K: But supposing you have a low ABM level; then the problem of SAM upgrade becomes worse.

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