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Telecon Frank Shakespeare 1/5/71 12:30 p. m. page 2 K: Yes, and what role they visualize for us in that. S: The ruler in Abudabi may bring up the boundary between them and Saudi Arabia. I will just listen if he does. K: When will you be back? S: The 23rd. Then I go to Kuwait and call on the . In Cairo I have lunch with largely media people. K: In Cairo, try to convince them that the White House is not after them with State being big brother. S: Okay. I am seeing Hakel (?) and the Foreign Minister. Anything to say to them? K: I would make it clear to both, Hakel has said it's the White House which has taken the anti-Arab position. Bergus feeds them that stuff but it can't be in anybody's interest. One other thing: Egypt can't get out of the great power contest by just renouncing it. They continue in it as long as the Russians have bases there. S: I agree fully. Then on to Tunis. I'll have a three-day meeting with public affairs officers. I have taken them from Saudi Arabia to Kuwait all the way over to Morocco that relate to this flank of the Soviet Union. I'm going to have a session on their sense of the way things are going. Bergus will me us there. In each case, I will be staying with the Ambassador. And the Ambas- sador, later on in the evening will say 'How are things going? 11 Is ther e any nuance I can give them? K: Let them know that they shouldn't play the game that one area is State's and another is the White House's and also give them our view on the Arab-Israeli dispute, that is is important. And also the U.S. Soviet com- ponent there and on Amab radicalism which won't be erased entirely by the settlements there. But don't attribute these things to me or I'll be getting letters. S: Okay. Thank you very much for calling. K: Thank you. Have a good trip and I look forward to seeing you when you get home.

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