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TELECON The President 11/22/71 12:45 p. m. P: What's happeneing in India-Pakistan? K: The Indians have now denied it, and said they are confusing P: What do the Paks say? K: Their communication is bad. There is no doubt there is a large encroachment taking place and it is heavily backed by the Indians. P: They are probably trying to do it without getting cut off. I want you to lay it out hard that I have made a determination that all aid to both sides stops. Cut it to both India and Pakistan. K: We haven't completely cut it to Pakistan yet. That might put them over the brink. P: But won't it hurt the Indians more? K: That's a determination I can make for you.

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