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Hal Sonnenfeldt
Secretary Kissinger
3/5/74
9:06 a. m.
S:
question of what we do about it is really the difference between
being relaxed and letting it fall of its own weight or actively working
against it. I never doubt it after what Home said that the British
weren't going to stop it and then they were too weak to stop it anyway,
I don't know what Sheel said to you in Bonn but I think to keep the
French happy and to just show a movement, it was pretty inevitable
I'm
that they should do it and getting together some people right now to
do a paper for you, but I don't really--
K:
I am determined not to accept it; it is not a question of whether the
decision in itself can harm us, it is when the Secretary of State is
in Brussels to brief NATO to be summoned to the EC and then to be
informed of a decision that they have already taken and that it is
already in the newspapers
S:
Yeh, of course, I couldn't tell what Scheel might ha ve said to you in
Bonn on the thing
K:
He lied--you know, he obviously said we would do a few minor things
but we will never go to the Foreign Minister's meeting
S:
There is some talk this was a surprising development, but I can't
believe it--that these things happen out of no where.
K:
And to take the decision with Britain absent and Italy having no government
is inexcusable
S:
I think obviously that puts you in a very awkward position and it is a stupid
thing to do in this fashion and undoubtedly it was done as a means of
repairing a relationship with the French. I don't think everybody has
a hell of a lot of confidence that it amounts to a great deal and it does
come down in the end to how much capital you want to spend to work against
something like this.
K:
I don't want to work against it, I want to use it as an excuse to show that
this procedure will never be accepted again.
S:
I think that on the most immediately related issue--the energy conference,
the Europeans still seem to be under some general impression that they
did us a favor in the way they conducted themselves in the conference, and
I think that is where our tactics are going to have to be adjusted to more
passive position
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