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TELCON November 19, 1973/10:10 a.m. Bill Timmons/HAK K: Bill can you explain to me. What the hell this is about Sonnenfeldt. It's beyond my comprehension. you T: When did XXplan to submit his thing. K: In about two or three weeks. T: The Congress would either like to confirm him and have us swear him in or not swear him for the Treasury post or withdraw him because Mansfield said it's not fair to single one out and therefore he's holding about 24 I think nominations up. K: Who put him up to that. That does not sound like Mansfield. T: No it is. We've talked to him. Brent has talked to him. Everybody has talked to him and that's what he wants to do. So our options is either to withdraw him now or go ahead and let him be confirmed. Frankly I see nothing wrong with having him confirmed by the Senate and not sworn in. K: When is that going to happen. T: As soon as we can get approval to go ahead that way. doesn't want to do that of course. He says that's unfair to have him confirmed when they know full well he's not going to be sworn in. What's your preference on it? You'd prefer to have him just sit where he is. Right? K: Until I nominate him but I've got three guys that I need in the Department that aren't being confirmed. /Is it clear though that if he is confirmed and not sownr. T: K: It makes absolutely no difference to me. I just want to get my 3 guys through and it isn't any reflection on Hal not to confirm him now since the whole Senate gets a chance at confirming him anyway. The Committee has confirmed him. If the Senate has any doubts about him they can refuse him when he comes up through the State. T: I think we can probably swing him this week probably get him confirmed because I believe that's the only way we'll clear out the other nominees we've got is to have Hal confirmed and Felch just won't swear him in for two weeks until you send him up as another nomination. K: OK.

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